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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:19 PM

Kikzo wrote

Archybot wrote...

iHackLiTE wrote...

Can't remember the last time I queued up with someone who I had seen at least one time in my life prior to the match I had just been put in with them.

In other words, no one that normally plays Badlion is currently playing Badlion. It's a bunch of randoms that play a few matches and get bored and don't play anymore. In other other words, Badlion is dying. Arena currently has an incredibly low player count relative to the past. It's not fun to play Badlion anymore, because It's extremely lacking and slow-paced.

Anyone who says otherwise: you can pull up whatever bullshit statistic you want but it doesn't make anything different. If you wanna try and still praise Badlion for making unwise decisions that's killing the playerbase, then you're lying to Badlion, its community, and most definitely yourself.

It's pissing me off seeing some of the staff write essays trying to disprove the very clear fact that Badlion just isn't doing so hot right now. You're full of it.

The original post isn't nonsense. It isn't rage. It isn't biased. It isn't a lie. And it isn't ignorance. It's bold faced truth, and if you wanna try and act like everyone with such an opinion is idiotic, then enjoy the few hundred more Badlion diss threads that'll appear until Badlion finally decides to not disappoint the community.

The last person I want quoting me and trying to call me an idiot is some biased and arrogant prick from the staff team acting all-knowing when chances are A) He or she either barely actually plays the server to do anything other than being staff B) He or she is low-key sweating for a promotion C) He or she spends 99% of their time playing Minecraft on Badlion and therefore has no knowledge of anything in the MC community other than Badlion. And yes, instance C most definitely includes our Owner friends.

Keep urging people to believe in S15/Premium all you want, but truth is people literally do not care until it's PROVEN go be good. No amount of biased staff opinions is gonna change that

How this:

Since you can't accept that we are working on it and just want to talk shit, you can come back, once we've had time to fix it. Enjoy playing elsewhere during the summer. I'll decide later whether or not I wipe your stats since you've always said skill doesn't matter in this rating system so I wouldn't want you to be troubled at being #1 in such an awful rating system.

Hahaha wiping stats because he said his opinion, may you believe its wrong or not, he hasn't done anything related to rating manipulation which would cause him a stats reset. Do you want to break your own rules, are you really that stupid?

Apart from that, I understand both of you. iHacks statements are sadly true, but yes I know you're working hard. However that doesn't change the fact that nobody gives two shits about Arena anymore until the season finally ends and Badlion Premiums player base will be extremly low since it has failed its first impression.

I know how hard it is to create these things and to manage them all at once, but being arrogant as well as not listening to the community at all (when was the last judgement day and how many have asked for one?) is not gonna help it, in fact it does the opposite.

I don't like how a lot of people automatically considers this thread as a rage thread, despite those who do it are mostly ass-licking staff members or those who would like to be one of them, the content itself is very direct, thus not too professional, but his points are all true in some way.

Badlion - in this context Arena - needs a change. The season needs to end, we need a judgement day, we need KB to be fixed in Build, the potlag needs to be removed and so much more, don't you see how the leaderboards haven't really changed at all the past months? The only thing that has really changed is the absolute ridiculous amount of Masters, which completely abolishes the actual meaning of the rank. iHack, Caleb, me, even fucking LUKAZAC don't play Arena anymore because we have no incentive to do so.

Now you can take these points into consideration and if you don't feel the same, give feedback to at least show you're listening. Or you can be the arrogant and biased person you like to present yourself as and reply with random garbage like you usually do. Your choice.

Lets goooo! just like to add that I quote by lukazac the sweatiest of all sweats "arena is shit now". I'm glad someone who's more known in the community for his level of skill and experience is actually speaking out. Thank you Kikzo, hope they take this onboard :)

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:19 PM

Zaoma wrote

Ok. Why is this even a thread? Badlion can be enjoyable every now and then when playing with friends. But I have to agree with you on Ultra being the only good alternative left. Maybe if you want to enjoy arena you should rank down to bronze 1 and fight kids that don't hack.

LOL u memer

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:21 PM

5oft wrote

Kikzo wrote...

Archybot wrote...

iHackLiTE wrote...

Can't remember the last time I queued up with someone who I had seen at least one time in my life prior to the match I had just been put in with them.

In other words, no one that normally plays Badlion is currently playing Badlion. It's a bunch of randoms that play a few matches and get bored and don't play anymore. In other other words, Badlion is dying. Arena currently has an incredibly low player count relative to the past. It's not fun to play Badlion anymore, because It's extremely lacking and slow-paced.

Anyone who says otherwise: you can pull up whatever bullshit statistic you want but it doesn't make anything different. If you wanna try and still praise Badlion for making unwise decisions that's killing the playerbase, then you're lying to Badlion, its community, and most definitely yourself.

It's pissing me off seeing some of the staff write essays trying to disprove the very clear fact that Badlion just isn't doing so hot right now. You're full of it.

The original post isn't nonsense. It isn't rage. It isn't biased. It isn't a lie. And it isn't ignorance. It's bold faced truth, and if you wanna try and act like everyone with such an opinion is idiotic, then enjoy the few hundred more Badlion diss threads that'll appear until Badlion finally decides to not disappoint the community.

The last person I want quoting me and trying to call me an idiot is some biased and arrogant prick from the staff team acting all-knowing when chances are A) He or she either barely actually plays the server to do anything other than being staff B) He or she is low-key sweating for a promotion C) He or she spends 99% of their time playing Minecraft on Badlion and therefore has no knowledge of anything in the MC community other than Badlion. And yes, instance C most definitely includes our Owner friends.

Keep urging people to believe in S15/Premium all you want, but truth is people literally do not care until it's PROVEN go be good. No amount of biased staff opinions is gonna change that

How this:

Since you can't accept that we are working on it and just want to talk shit, you can come back, once we've had time to fix it. Enjoy playing elsewhere during the summer. I'll decide later whether or not I wipe your stats since you've always said skill doesn't matter in this rating system so I wouldn't want you to be troubled at being #1 in such an awful rating system.

Hahaha wiping stats because he said his opinion, may you believe its wrong or not, he hasn't done anything related to rating manipulation which would cause him a stats reset. Do you want to break your own rules, are you really that stupid?

Apart from that, I understand both of you. iHacks statements are sadly true, but yes I know you're working hard. However that doesn't change the fact that nobody gives two shits about Arena anymore until the season finally ends and Badlion Premiums player base will be extremly low since it has failed its first impression.

I know how hard it is to create these things and to manage them all at once, but being arrogant as well as not listening to the community at all (when was the last judgement day and how many have asked for one?) is not gonna help it, in fact it does the opposite.

I don't like how a lot of people automatically considers this thread as a rage thread, despite those who do it are mostly ass-licking staff members or those who would like to be one of them, the content itself is very direct, thus not too professional, but his points are all true in some way.

Badlion - in this context Arena - needs a change. The season needs to end, we need a judgement day, we need KB to be fixed in Build, the potlag needs to be removed and so much more, don't you see how the leaderboards haven't really changed at all the past months? The only thing that has really changed is the absolute ridiculous amount of Masters, which completely abolishes the actual meaning of the rank. iHack, Caleb, me, even fucking LUKAZAC don't play Arena anymore because we have no incentive to do so.

Now you can take these points into consideration and if you don't feel the same, give feedback to at least show you're listening. Or you can be the arrogant and biased person you like to present yourself as and reply with random garbage like you usually do. Your choice.

Lets goooo! just like to add that I quote by lukazac the sweatiest of all sweats "arena is shit now". I'm glad someone who's more known in the community for his level of skill and experience is actually speaking out. Thank you Kikzo, hope they take this onboard :)

That's exactly why I mentioned him haha

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:24 PM

Kikzo wrote

5oft wrote...

Kikzo wrote...

Archybot wrote...

iHackLiTE wrote...

Can't remember the last time I queued up with someone who I had seen at least one time in my life prior to the match I had just been put in with them.

In other words, no one that normally plays Badlion is currently playing Badlion. It's a bunch of randoms that play a few matches and get bored and don't play anymore. In other other words, Badlion is dying. Arena currently has an incredibly low player count relative to the past. It's not fun to play Badlion anymore, because It's extremely lacking and slow-paced.

Anyone who says otherwise: you can pull up whatever bullshit statistic you want but it doesn't make anything different. If you wanna try and still praise Badlion for making unwise decisions that's killing the playerbase, then you're lying to Badlion, its community, and most definitely yourself.

It's pissing me off seeing some of the staff write essays trying to disprove the very clear fact that Badlion just isn't doing so hot right now. You're full of it.

The original post isn't nonsense. It isn't rage. It isn't biased. It isn't a lie. And it isn't ignorance. It's bold faced truth, and if you wanna try and act like everyone with such an opinion is idiotic, then enjoy the few hundred more Badlion diss threads that'll appear until Badlion finally decides to not disappoint the community.

The last person I want quoting me and trying to call me an idiot is some biased and arrogant prick from the staff team acting all-knowing when chances are A) He or she either barely actually plays the server to do anything other than being staff B) He or she is low-key sweating for a promotion C) He or she spends 99% of their time playing Minecraft on Badlion and therefore has no knowledge of anything in the MC community other than Badlion. And yes, instance C most definitely includes our Owner friends.

Keep urging people to believe in S15/Premium all you want, but truth is people literally do not care until it's PROVEN go be good. No amount of biased staff opinions is gonna change that

How this:

Since you can't accept that we are working on it and just want to talk shit, you can come back, once we've had time to fix it. Enjoy playing elsewhere during the summer. I'll decide later whether or not I wipe your stats since you've always said skill doesn't matter in this rating system so I wouldn't want you to be troubled at being #1 in such an awful rating system.

Hahaha wiping stats because he said his opinion, may you believe its wrong or not, he hasn't done anything related to rating manipulation which would cause him a stats reset. Do you want to break your own rules, are you really that stupid?

Apart from that, I understand both of you. iHacks statements are sadly true, but yes I know you're working hard. However that doesn't change the fact that nobody gives two shits about Arena anymore until the season finally ends and Badlion Premiums player base will be extremly low since it has failed its first impression.

I know how hard it is to create these things and to manage them all at once, but being arrogant as well as not listening to the community at all (when was the last judgement day and how many have asked for one?) is not gonna help it, in fact it does the opposite.

I don't like how a lot of people automatically considers this thread as a rage thread, despite those who do it are mostly ass-licking staff members or those who would like to be one of them, the content itself is very direct, thus not too professional, but his points are all true in some way.

Badlion - in this context Arena - needs a change. The season needs to end, we need a judgement day, we need KB to be fixed in Build, the potlag needs to be removed and so much more, don't you see how the leaderboards haven't really changed at all the past months? The only thing that has really changed is the absolute ridiculous amount of Masters, which completely abolishes the actual meaning of the rank. iHack, Caleb, me, even fucking LUKAZAC don't play Arena anymore because we have no incentive to do so.

Now you can take these points into consideration and if you don't feel the same, give feedback to at least show you're listening. Or you can be the arrogant and biased person you like to present yourself as and reply with random garbage like you usually do. Your choice.

Lets goooo! just like to add that I quote by lukazac the sweatiest of all sweats "arena is shit now". I'm glad someone who's more known in the community for his level of skill and experience is actually speaking out. Thank you Kikzo, hope they take this onboard :)

That's exactly why I mentioned him haha

Yup :) thought you quit tho homie?

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:26 PM

5oft wrote

Archybot wrote...

iHackLiTE wrote...

Can't remember the last time I queued up with someone who I had seen at least one time in my life prior to the match I had just been put in with them.

In other words, no one that normally plays Badlion is currently playing Badlion. It's a bunch of randoms that play a few matches and get bored and don't play anymore. In other other words, Badlion is dying. Arena currently has an incredibly low player count relative to the past. It's not fun to play Badlion anymore, because It's extremely lacking and slow-paced.

Anyone who says otherwise: you can pull up whatever bullshit statistic you want but it doesn't make anything different. If you wanna try and still praise Badlion for making unwise decisions that's killing the playerbase, then you're lying to Badlion, its community, and most definitely yourself.

It's pissing me off seeing some of the staff write essays trying to disprove the very clear fact that Badlion just isn't doing so hot right now. You're full of it.

The original post isn't nonsense. It isn't rage. It isn't biased. It isn't a lie. And it isn't ignorance. It's bold faced truth, and if you wanna try and act like everyone with such an opinion is idiotic, then enjoy the few hundred more Badlion diss threads that'll appear until Badlion finally decides to not disappoint the community.

The last person I want quoting me and trying to call me an idiot is some biased and arrogant prick from the staff team acting all-knowing when chances are A) He or she either barely actually plays the server to do anything other than being staff B) He or she is low-key sweating for a promotion C) He or she spends 99% of their time playing Minecraft on Badlion and therefore has no knowledge of anything in the MC community other than Badlion. And yes, instance C most definitely includes our Owner friends.

Keep urging people to believe in S15/Premium all you want, but truth is people literally do not care until it's PROVEN go be good. No amount of biased staff opinions is gonna change that

How this:

Since you can't accept that we are working on it and just want to talk shit, you can come back, once we've had time to fix it. Enjoy playing elsewhere during the summer. I'll decide later whether or not I wipe your stats since you've always said skill doesn't matter in this rating system so I wouldn't want you to be troubled at being #1 in such an awful rating system.

#

Heyhey archy my man, go easy bro. You know the saying "we pay we say" from runescape when the they kept pushing updates the community didn't want, and the community did protests. Imagine ihacklite as the martyr of the kohi community xd. He's just angry about rankings etc,he's put so many hours into the server, he obvs enjoys playing. I think alot of people have got to their breaking point so people say rude shit they don't mean. :33 ily xoxo

that's not the same, archy or gberry explained multiple times to ihacklite how they were trying to fix/fixing the problems he was complaining about, but ihacklite is just complaining over and over on all the ''hate'' ( it's not hate just don't know how to say it) threads. I totally understand archy's reaction tbf

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:27 PM

naimsm wrote

5oft wrote...

Archybot wrote...

iHackLiTE wrote...

Can't remember the last time I queued up with someone who I had seen at least one time in my life prior to the match I had just been put in with them.

In other words, no one that normally plays Badlion is currently playing Badlion. It's a bunch of randoms that play a few matches and get bored and don't play anymore. In other other words, Badlion is dying. Arena currently has an incredibly low player count relative to the past. It's not fun to play Badlion anymore, because It's extremely lacking and slow-paced.

Anyone who says otherwise: you can pull up whatever bullshit statistic you want but it doesn't make anything different. If you wanna try and still praise Badlion for making unwise decisions that's killing the playerbase, then you're lying to Badlion, its community, and most definitely yourself.

It's pissing me off seeing some of the staff write essays trying to disprove the very clear fact that Badlion just isn't doing so hot right now. You're full of it.

The original post isn't nonsense. It isn't rage. It isn't biased. It isn't a lie. And it isn't ignorance. It's bold faced truth, and if you wanna try and act like everyone with such an opinion is idiotic, then enjoy the few hundred more Badlion diss threads that'll appear until Badlion finally decides to not disappoint the community.

The last person I want quoting me and trying to call me an idiot is some biased and arrogant prick from the staff team acting all-knowing when chances are A) He or she either barely actually plays the server to do anything other than being staff B) He or she is low-key sweating for a promotion C) He or she spends 99% of their time playing Minecraft on Badlion and therefore has no knowledge of anything in the MC community other than Badlion. And yes, instance C most definitely includes our Owner friends.

Keep urging people to believe in S15/Premium all you want, but truth is people literally do not care until it's PROVEN go be good. No amount of biased staff opinions is gonna change that

How this:

Since you can't accept that we are working on it and just want to talk shit, you can come back, once we've had time to fix it. Enjoy playing elsewhere during the summer. I'll decide later whether or not I wipe your stats since you've always said skill doesn't matter in this rating system so I wouldn't want you to be troubled at being #1 in such an awful rating system.

#

Heyhey archy my man, go easy bro. You know the saying "we pay we say" from runescape when the they kept pushing updates the community didn't want, and the community did protests. Imagine ihacklite as the martyr of the kohi community xd. He's just angry about rankings etc,he's put so many hours into the server, he obvs enjoys playing. I think alot of people have got to their breaking point so people say rude shit they don't mean. :33 ily xoxo

that's not the same, archy or gberry explained multiple times to ihacklite how they were trying to fix/fixing the problems he was complaining about, but ihacklite is just complaining over and over on all the ''hate'' ( it's not hate just don't know how to say it) threads. I totally understand archy's reaction tbf

They could just ban him from forums :/

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:31 PM

JuztChicken wrote

Zaoma wrote...

You say this, but if you're a high rank in any kit, you should be more than capable of beating someone who is cheating especially in kits like: Build, SG and a few other kits. With getting a high rank should come a lot of experience and skill for the player, meaning you can still have the edge over a cheater. So deranking yourself 1. would get you banned for MMR dropping and 2. Shows that possible you shouldn't have the rank that you have. In my opinion.

I hope you're joking. Being high rank in any kit does not mean you're automatically capable of beating someone who is cheating. A decent player who hacks, for example, if I hacked. I could get masters because I know what I'm doing without hacks . Fortunately, most hackers are idiots who don't even know how to hotkey a water bucket so we can take them out with ease however hackers in the past such as ( I cant believe I'm saying this) majority_hi etc. High ranks doesn't mean anything.. Kiivo was emerald 3 and I was able to 10 heart him with ease. Clearly showing his lack of experience and skill. You can just wake up early and play before school to get high ratings which doesn't necessarily improve you as a player.

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:31 PM

5oft wrote

naimsm wrote...

5oft wrote...

Archybot wrote...

iHackLiTE wrote...

Can't remember the last time I queued up with someone who I had seen at least one time in my life prior to the match I had just been put in with them.

In other words, no one that normally plays Badlion is currently playing Badlion. It's a bunch of randoms that play a few matches and get bored and don't play anymore. In other other words, Badlion is dying. Arena currently has an incredibly low player count relative to the past. It's not fun to play Badlion anymore, because It's extremely lacking and slow-paced.

Anyone who says otherwise: you can pull up whatever bullshit statistic you want but it doesn't make anything different. If you wanna try and still praise Badlion for making unwise decisions that's killing the playerbase, then you're lying to Badlion, its community, and most definitely yourself.

It's pissing me off seeing some of the staff write essays trying to disprove the very clear fact that Badlion just isn't doing so hot right now. You're full of it.

The original post isn't nonsense. It isn't rage. It isn't biased. It isn't a lie. And it isn't ignorance. It's bold faced truth, and if you wanna try and act like everyone with such an opinion is idiotic, then enjoy the few hundred more Badlion diss threads that'll appear until Badlion finally decides to not disappoint the community.

The last person I want quoting me and trying to call me an idiot is some biased and arrogant prick from the staff team acting all-knowing when chances are A) He or she either barely actually plays the server to do anything other than being staff B) He or she is low-key sweating for a promotion C) He or she spends 99% of their time playing Minecraft on Badlion and therefore has no knowledge of anything in the MC community other than Badlion. And yes, instance C most definitely includes our Owner friends.

Keep urging people to believe in S15/Premium all you want, but truth is people literally do not care until it's PROVEN go be good. No amount of biased staff opinions is gonna change that

How this:

Since you can't accept that we are working on it and just want to talk shit, you can come back, once we've had time to fix it. Enjoy playing elsewhere during the summer. I'll decide later whether or not I wipe your stats since you've always said skill doesn't matter in this rating system so I wouldn't want you to be troubled at being #1 in such an awful rating system.

#

Heyhey archy my man, go easy bro. You know the saying "we pay we say" from runescape when the they kept pushing updates the community didn't want, and the community did protests. Imagine ihacklite as the martyr of the kohi community xd. He's just angry about rankings etc,he's put so many hours into the server, he obvs enjoys playing. I think alot of people have got to their breaking point so people say rude shit they don't mean. :33 ily xoxo

that's not the same, archy or gberry explained multiple times to ihacklite how they were trying to fix/fixing the problems he was complaining about, but ihacklite is just complaining over and over on all the ''hate'' ( it's not hate just don't know how to say it) threads. I totally understand archy's reaction tbf

They could just ban him from forums :/

Well he's saying shit about the server and is doing like he does not enjoy badlion at all, if he don't enjoy why is he playing it, he could just wait till it's all fixed :D

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:34 PM

5oft wrote

Kikzo wrote...

5oft wrote...

Kikzo wrote...

Archybot wrote...

iHackLiTE wrote...

Can't remember the last time I queued up with someone who I had seen at least one time in my life prior to the match I had just been put in with them.

In other words, no one that normally plays Badlion is currently playing Badlion. It's a bunch of randoms that play a few matches and get bored and don't play anymore. In other other words, Badlion is dying. Arena currently has an incredibly low player count relative to the past. It's not fun to play Badlion anymore, because It's extremely lacking and slow-paced.

Anyone who says otherwise: you can pull up whatever bullshit statistic you want but it doesn't make anything different. If you wanna try and still praise Badlion for making unwise decisions that's killing the playerbase, then you're lying to Badlion, its community, and most definitely yourself.

It's pissing me off seeing some of the staff write essays trying to disprove the very clear fact that Badlion just isn't doing so hot right now. You're full of it.

The original post isn't nonsense. It isn't rage. It isn't biased. It isn't a lie. And it isn't ignorance. It's bold faced truth, and if you wanna try and act like everyone with such an opinion is idiotic, then enjoy the few hundred more Badlion diss threads that'll appear until Badlion finally decides to not disappoint the community.

The last person I want quoting me and trying to call me an idiot is some biased and arrogant prick from the staff team acting all-knowing when chances are A) He or she either barely actually plays the server to do anything other than being staff B) He or she is low-key sweating for a promotion C) He or she spends 99% of their time playing Minecraft on Badlion and therefore has no knowledge of anything in the MC community other than Badlion. And yes, instance C most definitely includes our Owner friends.

Keep urging people to believe in S15/Premium all you want, but truth is people literally do not care until it's PROVEN go be good. No amount of biased staff opinions is gonna change that

How this:

Since you can't accept that we are working on it and just want to talk shit, you can come back, once we've had time to fix it. Enjoy playing elsewhere during the summer. I'll decide later whether or not I wipe your stats since you've always said skill doesn't matter in this rating system so I wouldn't want you to be troubled at being #1 in such an awful rating system.

Hahaha wiping stats because he said his opinion, may you believe its wrong or not, he hasn't done anything related to rating manipulation which would cause him a stats reset. Do you want to break your own rules, are you really that stupid?

Apart from that, I understand both of you. iHacks statements are sadly true, but yes I know you're working hard. However that doesn't change the fact that nobody gives two shits about Arena anymore until the season finally ends and Badlion Premiums player base will be extremly low since it has failed its first impression.

I know how hard it is to create these things and to manage them all at once, but being arrogant as well as not listening to the community at all (when was the last judgement day and how many have asked for one?) is not gonna help it, in fact it does the opposite.

I don't like how a lot of people automatically considers this thread as a rage thread, despite those who do it are mostly ass-licking staff members or those who would like to be one of them, the content itself is very direct, thus not too professional, but his points are all true in some way.

Badlion - in this context Arena - needs a change. The season needs to end, we need a judgement day, we need KB to be fixed in Build, the potlag needs to be removed and so much more, don't you see how the leaderboards haven't really changed at all the past months? The only thing that has really changed is the absolute ridiculous amount of Masters, which completely abolishes the actual meaning of the rank. iHack, Caleb, me, even fucking LUKAZAC don't play Arena anymore because we have no incentive to do so.

Now you can take these points into consideration and if you don't feel the same, give feedback to at least show you're listening. Or you can be the arrogant and biased person you like to present yourself as and reply with random garbage like you usually do. Your choice.

Lets goooo! just like to add that I quote by lukazac the sweatiest of all sweats "arena is shit now". I'm glad someone who's more known in the community for his level of skill and experience is actually speaking out. Thank you Kikzo, hope they take this onboard :)

That's exactly why I mentioned him haha

Yup :) thought you quit tho homie?

im hopping on every now and then but really not more than 3 hours a month I'd say

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:37 PM

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JuztChicken wrote...

their cheating tho lol

so by ur standards if im masters and i fight a 8 blocker i have the edge to beat him LOL

If someone is '8 blocking' then G-Cheat will ban them easily enough.

But a player who is Masters has more chance of beating a cheater than an Emerald V does, purely down to experience.

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:38 PM

JuztChicken wrote

Scanthus wrote...

If someone is '8 blocking' then G-Cheat will ban them easily enough.

But a player who is Masters has more chance of beating a cheater than an Emerald V does, purely down to experience.

i can beat cheaters in archer!!!

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 12:44 PM

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JuztChicken wrote...

i can beat cheaters in archer!!!

Exactly, what im just trying to say is, players with a high rank will often have more experience than others.

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Kikzo wrote

Archybot wrote...

iHackLiTE wrote...

Can't remember the last time I queued up with someone who I had seen at least one time in my life prior to the match I had just been put in with them.

In other words, no one that normally plays Badlion is currently playing Badlion. It's a bunch of randoms that play a few matches and get bored and don't play anymore. In other other words, Badlion is dying. Arena currently has an incredibly low player count relative to the past. It's not fun to play Badlion anymore, because It's extremely lacking and slow-paced.

Anyone who says otherwise: you can pull up whatever bullshit statistic you want but it doesn't make anything different. If you wanna try and still praise Badlion for making unwise decisions that's killing the playerbase, then you're lying to Badlion, its community, and most definitely yourself.

It's pissing me off seeing some of the staff write essays trying to disprove the very clear fact that Badlion just isn't doing so hot right now. You're full of it.

The original post isn't nonsense. It isn't rage. It isn't biased. It isn't a lie. And it isn't ignorance. It's bold faced truth, and if you wanna try and act like everyone with such an opinion is idiotic, then enjoy the few hundred more Badlion diss threads that'll appear until Badlion finally decides to not disappoint the community.

The last person I want quoting me and trying to call me an idiot is some biased and arrogant prick from the staff team acting all-knowing when chances are A) He or she either barely actually plays the server to do anything other than being staff B) He or she is low-key sweating for a promotion C) He or she spends 99% of their time playing Minecraft on Badlion and therefore has no knowledge of anything in the MC community other than Badlion. And yes, instance C most definitely includes our Owner friends.

Keep urging people to believe in S15/Premium all you want, but truth is people literally do not care until it's PROVEN go be good. No amount of biased staff opinions is gonna change that

How this:

Since you can't accept that we are working on it and just want to talk shit, you can come back, once we've had time to fix it. Enjoy playing elsewhere during the summer. I'll decide later whether or not I wipe your stats since you've always said skill doesn't matter in this rating system so I wouldn't want you to be troubled at being #1 in such an awful rating system.

Hahaha wiping stats because he said his opinion, may you believe its wrong or not, he hasn't done anything related to rating manipulation which would cause him a stats reset. Do you want to break your own rules, are you really that stupid?

Apart from that, I understand both of you. iHacks statements are sadly true, but yes I know you're working hard. However that doesn't change the fact that nobody gives two shits about Arena anymore until the season finally ends and Badlion Premiums player base will be extremly low since it has failed its first impression.

I know how hard it is to create these things and to manage them all at once, but being arrogant as well as not listening to the community at all (when was the last judgement day and how many have asked for one?) is not gonna help it, in fact it does the opposite.

I don't like how a lot of people automatically considers this thread as a rage thread, despite those who do it are mostly ass-licking staff members or those who would like to be one of them, the content itself is very direct, thus not too professional, but his points are all true in some way.

Badlion - in this context Arena - needs a change. The season needs to end, we need a judgement day, we need KB to be fixed in Build, the potlag needs to be removed and so much more, don't you see how the leaderboards haven't really changed at all the past months? The only thing that has really changed is the absolute ridiculous amount of Masters, which completely abolishes the actual meaning of the rank. iHack, Caleb, me, even fucking LUKAZAC don't play Arena anymore because we have no incentive to do so.

Now you can take these points into consideration and if you don't feel the same, give feedback to at least show you're listening. Or you can be the arrogant and biased person you like to present yourself as and reply with random garbage like you usually do. Your choice.

There is a difference between criticism and being toxic. He/she(whatever it is) didn't get banned for the criticism, he got banned for the chronic insults spewed across the post and past posts. And there is no reason to give feedback, in this year alone giving feedback of what is and is not coming other than every broad terms has allowed several things to be stolen. Before we had competitors copying us, we could be transparent, now we can't. Competition is good and bad, and you're seeing the bad side of it.

And about S15, sucks. We could have had beta out over a month ago but it would have been more of an alpha, and after how you treated BLP even though it was clearly said to be an alpha/beta showed us that you guys don't deserve to be part of early testing anymore and will only get to play on it when it's completely ready, minus select few - the ones actually giving solutions instead of crying/insulting on the forums.

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 01:02 PM

Don't think you should of banned iHackLITE that punishment is a little too harsh because he didn't cheat or anything but be toxic. I think the more appropriate punishment should have been a mute from chatting on forums and in game.

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 01:12 PM

Kikzo wrote

5oft wrote...

Kikzo wrote...

5oft wrote...

Kikzo wrote...

Archybot wrote...

iHackLiTE wrote...

Can't remember the last time I queued up with someone who I had seen at least one time in my life prior to the match I had just been put in with them.

In other words, no one that normally plays Badlion is currently playing Badlion. It's a bunch of randoms that play a few matches and get bored and don't play anymore. In other other words, Badlion is dying. Arena currently has an incredibly low player count relative to the past. It's not fun to play Badlion anymore, because It's extremely lacking and slow-paced.

Anyone who says otherwise: you can pull up whatever bullshit statistic you want but it doesn't make anything different. If you wanna try and still praise Badlion for making unwise decisions that's killing the playerbase, then you're lying to Badlion, its community, and most definitely yourself.

It's pissing me off seeing some of the staff write essays trying to disprove the very clear fact that Badlion just isn't doing so hot right now. You're full of it.

The original post isn't nonsense. It isn't rage. It isn't biased. It isn't a lie. And it isn't ignorance. It's bold faced truth, and if you wanna try and act like everyone with such an opinion is idiotic, then enjoy the few hundred more Badlion diss threads that'll appear until Badlion finally decides to not disappoint the community.

The last person I want quoting me and trying to call me an idiot is some biased and arrogant prick from the staff team acting all-knowing when chances are A) He or she either barely actually plays the server to do anything other than being staff B) He or she is low-key sweating for a promotion C) He or she spends 99% of their time playing Minecraft on Badlion and therefore has no knowledge of anything in the MC community other than Badlion. And yes, instance C most definitely includes our Owner friends.

Keep urging people to believe in S15/Premium all you want, but truth is people literally do not care until it's PROVEN go be good. No amount of biased staff opinions is gonna change that

How this:

Since you can't accept that we are working on it and just want to talk shit, you can come back, once we've had time to fix it. Enjoy playing elsewhere during the summer. I'll decide later whether or not I wipe your stats since you've always said skill doesn't matter in this rating system so I wouldn't want you to be troubled at being #1 in such an awful rating system.

Hahaha wiping stats because he said his opinion, may you believe its wrong or not, he hasn't done anything related to rating manipulation which would cause him a stats reset. Do you want to break your own rules, are you really that stupid?

Apart from that, I understand both of you. iHacks statements are sadly true, but yes I know you're working hard. However that doesn't change the fact that nobody gives two shits about Arena anymore until the season finally ends and Badlion Premiums player base will be extremly low since it has failed its first impression.

I know how hard it is to create these things and to manage them all at once, but being arrogant as well as not listening to the community at all (when was the last judgement day and how many have asked for one?) is not gonna help it, in fact it does the opposite.

I don't like how a lot of people automatically considers this thread as a rage thread, despite those who do it are mostly ass-licking staff members or those who would like to be one of them, the content itself is very direct, thus not too professional, but his points are all true in some way.

Badlion - in this context Arena - needs a change. The season needs to end, we need a judgement day, we need KB to be fixed in Build, the potlag needs to be removed and so much more, don't you see how the leaderboards haven't really changed at all the past months? The only thing that has really changed is the absolute ridiculous amount of Masters, which completely abolishes the actual meaning of the rank. iHack, Caleb, me, even fucking LUKAZAC don't play Arena anymore because we have no incentive to do so.

Now you can take these points into consideration and if you don't feel the same, give feedback to at least show you're listening. Or you can be the arrogant and biased person you like to present yourself as and reply with random garbage like you usually do. Your choice.

Lets goooo! just like to add that I quote by lukazac the sweatiest of all sweats "arena is shit now". I'm glad someone who's more known in the community for his level of skill and experience is actually speaking out. Thank you Kikzo, hope they take this onboard :)

That's exactly why I mentioned him haha

Yup :) thought you quit tho homie?

im hopping on every now and then but really not more than 3 hours a month I'd say

Real shame to see an og hive player who became such a good arena player to be playing 3 hours a month. Wish you the best tho. hope you play more when season 15 comes out :3

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 01:14 PM

naimsm wrote

JuztChicken wrote...

i can beat cheaters in archer!!!

But not on build uhc? The most popular kits such as BuildUHC and SG and pretty much all pot kits are where hackers go. Also, majority of the community play those kits so yeah. Pretty invalid :/

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 01:23 PM

Archybot wrote

Kikzo wrote...

Archybot wrote...

iHackLiTE wrote...

Can't remember the last time I queued up with someone who I had seen at least one time in my life prior to the match I had just been put in with them.

In other words, no one that normally plays Badlion is currently playing Badlion. It's a bunch of randoms that play a few matches and get bored and don't play anymore. In other other words, Badlion is dying. Arena currently has an incredibly low player count relative to the past. It's not fun to play Badlion anymore, because It's extremely lacking and slow-paced.

Anyone who says otherwise: you can pull up whatever bullshit statistic you want but it doesn't make anything different. If you wanna try and still praise Badlion for making unwise decisions that's killing the playerbase, then you're lying to Badlion, its community, and most definitely yourself.

It's pissing me off seeing some of the staff write essays trying to disprove the very clear fact that Badlion just isn't doing so hot right now. You're full of it.

The original post isn't nonsense. It isn't rage. It isn't biased. It isn't a lie. And it isn't ignorance. It's bold faced truth, and if you wanna try and act like everyone with such an opinion is idiotic, then enjoy the few hundred more Badlion diss threads that'll appear until Badlion finally decides to not disappoint the community.

The last person I want quoting me and trying to call me an idiot is some biased and arrogant prick from the staff team acting all-knowing when chances are A) He or she either barely actually plays the server to do anything other than being staff B) He or she is low-key sweating for a promotion C) He or she spends 99% of their time playing Minecraft on Badlion and therefore has no knowledge of anything in the MC community other than Badlion. And yes, instance C most definitely includes our Owner friends.

Keep urging people to believe in S15/Premium all you want, but truth is people literally do not care until it's PROVEN go be good. No amount of biased staff opinions is gonna change that

How this:

Since you can't accept that we are working on it and just want to talk shit, you can come back, once we've had time to fix it. Enjoy playing elsewhere during the summer. I'll decide later whether or not I wipe your stats since you've always said skill doesn't matter in this rating system so I wouldn't want you to be troubled at being #1 in such an awful rating system.

Hahaha wiping stats because he said his opinion, may you believe its wrong or not, he hasn't done anything related to rating manipulation which would cause him a stats reset. Do you want to break your own rules, are you really that stupid?

Apart from that, I understand both of you. iHacks statements are sadly true, but yes I know you're working hard. However that doesn't change the fact that nobody gives two shits about Arena anymore until the season finally ends and Badlion Premiums player base will be extremly low since it has failed its first impression.

I know how hard it is to create these things and to manage them all at once, but being arrogant as well as not listening to the community at all (when was the last judgement day and how many have asked for one?) is not gonna help it, in fact it does the opposite.

I don't like how a lot of people automatically considers this thread as a rage thread, despite those who do it are mostly ass-licking staff members or those who would like to be one of them, the content itself is very direct, thus not too professional, but his points are all true in some way.

Badlion - in this context Arena - needs a change. The season needs to end, we need a judgement day, we need KB to be fixed in Build, the potlag needs to be removed and so much more, don't you see how the leaderboards haven't really changed at all the past months? The only thing that has really changed is the absolute ridiculous amount of Masters, which completely abolishes the actual meaning of the rank. iHack, Caleb, me, even fucking LUKAZAC don't play Arena anymore because we have no incentive to do so.

Now you can take these points into consideration and if you don't feel the same, give feedback to at least show you're listening. Or you can be the arrogant and biased person you like to present yourself as and reply with random garbage like you usually do. Your choice.

There is a difference between criticism and being toxic. He/she(whatever it is) didn't get banned for the criticism, he got banned for the chronic insults spewed across the post and past posts. And there is no reason to give feedback, in this year alone giving feedback of what is and is not coming other than every broad terms has allowed several things to be stolen. Before we had competitors copying us, we could be transparent, now we can't. Competition is good and bad, and you're seeing the bad side of it.

And about S15, sucks. We could have had beta out over a month ago but it would have been more of an alpha, and after how you treated BLP even though it was clearly said to be an alpha/beta showed us that you guys don't deserve to be part of early testing anymore and will only get to play on it when it's completely ready, minus select few - the ones actually giving solutions instead of crying/insulting on the forums.

In this matter, toxicity and criticism were closely connected. Still doesn't validate a stats reset? Nor does it validate an ingame ban (forum ban rather) but meh he it won't bother him.

The point you do about giving feedback is absolutely ridiculous. So replying to the communities' opinion implies other servers stealing content? Sad truth about server competition is that the most enjoyable server succeeds. You guys always used to be the #1 regarding Arena and UHC and now even SG, but you're slightly losing your position. Instead of complaining about other servers stealing your content you should work - as much as this is possible, of course it requires time you may lack, full respect for that -, for that there will always be the community that tells you what's wrong, because if we're good for anything than that's for seeing the negative sides at things instead of the positive ones. Complain about it or work with it.
If you do work on what the community wants you'll retain your player base. If you're not able to do better than other servers than you should not cry about them stealing things, since they apperantly have done it better than you. That shit is competition, it's hard and unfair, but you have decided to be a part of it, so you're going to have to deal with it.

About the BLP/S15 part, fair enough. S15 could have been announced earlier but I understand you guys. Only thing that really bothers me is that you were arrogantly praising about how perfect BLP is and try to sell it for tremendous prices and a month later I see a video of someone flying around while playing Badlion Premium. Don't you think it's obvious that your players lose faith in you when they see it? Nonetheless, I'm sure a bunch of people would give BLP a 2nd chance once it's finished. If it's good, it will succeed.

Until then, you do and we judge. Every crybaby points out something negative. Blaming them instead of trying to see what's wrong is only counterproductive, as stupid as it is.

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 01:30 PM

1. Judgement Day
2. better Anticheat
3. Fix Pot Detection
4. Bring back Kohi (like Practice EU/US) (they merged for nothing smh)
5. Screenshare System
6. Elo
7. Clan System (idk if there is one)
8. More Soup ladders (Speed 2, no Speed, Recraft, Refill, 1 Bar)
9. Private UHC's or Survival Games (like MCSG) (Scenarios choosen by Hosts) (10-20 Players to start)
10. Fix "already in match" and other Bugs
11. Listen to Community

That's all for my opinion

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In this matter, toxicity and criticism were closely connected.

Criticism and toxicity never have to be connected, ever. Here's an example of one of the best criticism threads ever, without a single insult/toxic word in it - https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/166258 - He actually got a rank for this post as it's a golden standard on what feedback SHOULD look like.

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Still doesn't validate a stats reset? Nor does it validate an ingame ban (forum ban rather) but meh he it won't bother him.

All bans over a month warrant a stats reset at the end of the season, which means if I don't exempt him or have him unbanned by then, then yes it does. If he wasn't popular you'd have no problem with his ban, as I've banned 100s of people for spewing less shit.

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The point you do about giving feedback is absolutely ridiculous. So replying to the communities' opinion implies other servers stealing content? Sad truth about server competition is that the most enjoyable server succeeds. You guys always used to be the #1 regarding Arena and UHC and now even SG, but you're slightly losing your position. Instead of complaining about other servers stealing your content you should work - as much as this is possible, of course it requires time you may lack, full respect for that -, for that there will always be the community that tells you what's wrong, because if we're good for anything than that's for seeing the negative sides at things instead of the positive ones. Complain about it or work with it.

I could literally list everything in the last year that was copied from BL's forums/twitters alone, but I don't have all day. The simple truth is this is why companies don't release specifics on anything until it would be too late for competition to copy it (like for example, how much do you know about the iPhone 8 that's most likely coming out in 2-3ish months?). Sadly in MC, most stuff can be copied within days so guess who isn't going to hear about stuff until it's days away now.

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If you do work on what the community wants you'll retain your player base. If you're not able to do better than other servers than you should not cry about them stealing things, since they apperantly have done it better than you. That shit is competition, it's hard and unfair, but you have decided to be a part of it, so you're going to have to deal with it.

If doing shit better then other servers was all that mattered, a lot of servers would never existed or still exist. Money/bending over to popular people is an important part, one badlion doesn't care for much.

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Only thing that really bothers me is that you were arrogantly praising about how perfect BLP is and try to sell it for tremendous prices and a month later I see a video of someone flying around while playing Badlion Premium. Don't you think it's obvious that your players lose faith in you when they see it? Nonetheless, I'm sure a bunch of people would give BLP a 2nd chance once it's finished. If it's good, it will succeed.

We never said the AC was preventative, and we went to the point of purposely saying all bans are done in waves and that it wasn't like you are saying. That's on you, not us. The AC has detected everything thrown at it, and even more that hasn't even been done inside of the MC hack scene yet.

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Until then, you do and we judge. Every crybaby points out something negative. Blaming them instead of trying to see what's wrong is only counterproductive, as stupid as it is.

Yes, every crybaby points out something THEY see as negative, but people who like the server don't come out and say it hardly. No one really posts when they are enjoying everything, and if they do they get drowned out by people calling them suckups so :/

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Posted on 01 June 2017 - 02:02 PM

@jezi_is_cracked Jez is that you bro? 👀

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