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freekkiller wrote

Camdog wrote...



we have uhc

that's like saying don't add diamond ocn because we have nodebuff…………
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ny_ wrote

I think archer is popular enough to do 2 kits, one speed 2 & pearls and one normal.

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Kauai wrote

ny_ wrote...


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Camdog wrote

Kauai wrote...

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Achievable wrote

Camdog wrote...

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ny_ wrote

I think archer is popular enough to do 2 kits, one speed 2 & pearls and one normal.


We've got to keep in mind this option would also impact the Global rating of players
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Camdog wrote

freekkiller wrote...


that's like saying don't add diamond ocn because we have nodebuff…………

lol wtf
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Badware wrote

Achievable wrote...

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Hivlik wrote

Camdog wrote...


lol wtf

"lol wtf"
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Varicks wrote

ny_ wrote...



We've got to keep in mind this option would also impact the Global rating of players


As did merging two melee-only soup ladders into ArenaPvP as well as adding tank, while removing the mixed bow/sword gold kit. Currently global ELO is fairly heavily biased towards melee, way more than at the end of last season.
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Regardless of keeping speed or not, I think there should also be a vote on pearls. For these reasons:
1. If you think about it, taking out pearls will not stop short-range. If someone pearls to you to short-range, one can easily just pearl away and they are stuck in cool-down. But if pearls are removed, and one lands on a map where it there are obstacles and cover and it is possible for your opponent to get to you short-range without being bowspammed, then you are truly stuck, as you can't pearl away.
2. It is very easy to hit someone when they pearl to you, making it a risk in the first place.
3. They are a staple of archer and allow more strategy, as well as saving you from tricky situations. For example, if you fall down a big hole in a map, which happens, with no pearls that is almost guaranteeing you to lose. Or, some maps have platforms high up that you can shoot down from or with possibilities to sneak around your opponent. Many fights end up with people on roofs or trees. There are surprise sneak attacks. Overall pearls allow more strategy to the game, as well as stopping some dumb losses.
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Honestly I like how it is now, just raw infinity bows, no speed or pearls whatsoever. I know that speed affects my bow skills since i usually don't bow with speed and I am a lot better and more confident without it.
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Personally if it stays like it is now the punch doesn't match the kit so remove that as well or just revert the changes. Also there's only a few kits were the bow actually is useful therefore global is massively melle based
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Varicks wrote

ny_ wrote...



We've got to keep in mind this option would also impact the Global rating of players
True, but theres also 2 kinds of soup pvp :P
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matthew010411 wrote

Regardless of keeping speed or not, I think there should also be a vote on pearls. For these reasons:
1. If you think about it, taking out pearls will not stop short-range. If someone pearls to you to short-range, one can easily just pearl away and they are stuck in cool-down. But if pearls are removed, and one lands on a map where it there are obstacles and cover and it is possible for your opponent to get to you short-range without being bowspammed, then you are truly stuck, as you can't pearl away.
2. It is very easy to hit someone when they pearl to you, making it a risk in the first place.
3. They are a staple of archer and allow more strategy, as well as saving you from tricky situations. For example, if you fall down a big hole in a map, which happens, with no pearls that is almost guaranteeing you to lose. Or, some maps have platforms high up that you can shoot down from or with possibilities to sneak around your opponent. Many fights end up with people on roofs or trees. There are surprise sneak attacks. Overall pearls allow more strategy to the game, as well as stopping some dumb losses.
I agree. +1
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There should be two different archer kits, one with speed and enderpearls and one without, as some people do not like bow spammers, so they can play without speed, and some people like bow spamming and/or practising against bowspammers, becuase I no longer like the archer as people just camp and jumpshot, if anyone even plays. Archer has lost a lot of players since it changed, including me.
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YES BRING BACK THE OLD KIT.
Why:
*Campers
*Faster more adreanline
*Its harder to get killed by a person who just get 2/3 lucky shots on you and you instantly die.

If we dont swich atleast get rid of the freaking punch
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Speed 2 is winning ya
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Hes right
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I think the speed should be add back because that's what I used all the time to win, the pearls I don't know. I think the speed should be added back!
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