Posted on 02 April 2016 - 09:30 PM
So SkellyBot thinks it's funny to joke about my suicidal thoughts and post them on twitter. Cool man, you will go VERY far in life. Let's talk about how I dealt with people telling me to kill myself and sending me ddos threats:Telling someone to kill themselves is so bad and low it's almost as if you are talking to YOURSELF, and not the other person. If they do feel really suicidal then you should fuck off of them and move on. I don't think the UHC kit is a good idea. I was feeling really suicidal, and when annoyingskelly/SkellyBot says "gf" I start feeling bad about myself. I don't really say gg/gf because it's turned into a taunt, something people say when they clearly have the advantage and/or it's a one sided fight. Where did this spawn? And why? I don't think it's all that cool to taunt people and make them angry. I like UHC as a gamemode, but not as a kit on Badlion. And when people taunt me for not being good at a specific kit I don't like can really get on my nerves.
DDoS - Distributed Denial of Service. In other words, denying someone's internet service. This has not happened to me on Badlion, thankfully, but from other places, yes, it has happened. This is illegal. Taking someone's paid service in any form is illegal. But people do it, and that's why it still happens. This is a god damn block game. Threatening to DDoS someone over a block game makes you even lower than what I stated above. I learned that this is a block game and I should not get so depressed over it. I did do that. However, others who feel insecure and have the power will go on and hit you offline. This is wrong and should never happen. But people still do it, and that's why people get thrown in jail sometimes.
Depression: I haven't been feeling the greatest recently, but that is because a lot of people from groups I know have turned against me and I feel alone. But I know that the small amount of groups that haven't left me yet are still there, and I can still be friends with them. So that's that. I know there's going to be criticism in the replies. Fire away, I'm prepared.
Posted on 02 April 2016 - 09:47 PM
Dude why would people criticise you? Feeling down isnt anything to feel bad about, you need to just forget about it and move on. At the end of the day its only a game, for fun its not worth it. Insults are one thing but telling someone to take their life, over a game is fucking discusting. Have good one!Last edited on 02 April 2016 - 11:52 PM by SkellyBot
BlueJewelGaming wrote
Telling someone to kill themselves is so bad and low it's almost as if you are talking to YOURSELF, and not the other person. If they do feel really suicidal then you should fuck off of them and move on. I don't think the UHC kit is a good idea. I was feeling really suicidal, and when annoyingskelly/SkellyBot says "gf" I start feeling bad about myself. I don't really say gg/gf because it's turned into a taunt, something people say when they clearly have the advantage and/or it's a one sided fight. Where did this spawn? And why? I don't think it's all that cool to taunt people and make them angry. I like UHC as a gamemode, but not as a kit on Badlion. And when people taunt me for not being good at a specific kit I don't like can really get on my nerves.
DDoS - Distributed Denial of Service. In other words, denying someone's internet service. This has not happened to me on Badlion, thankfully, but from other places, yes, it has happened. This is illegal. Taking someone's paid service in any form is illegal. But people do it, and that's why it still happens. This is a god damn block game. Threatening to DDoS someone over a block game makes you even lower than what I stated above. I learned that this is a block game and I should not get so depressed over it. I did do that. However, others who feel insecure and have the power will go on and hit you offline. This is wrong and should never happen. But people still do it, and that's why people get thrown in jail sometimes.
Depression: I haven't been feeling the greatest recently, but that is because a lot of people from groups I know have turned against me and I feel alone. But I know that the small amount of groups that haven't left me yet are still there, and I can still be friends with them. So that's that. I know there's going to be criticism in the replies. Fire away, I'm prepared.
I never said gf lol
Anyway, you said it in chat and made it known to everyone like you wanted people to see it lol
Posted on 02 April 2016 - 11:49 PM
gg/gf is no insult. Since you want criticism, I'll tell that's where you made your biggest mistake. Saying gg/gf can only be a sign of good sportsmanship—Gberry once compared it to a friendly handshake, and I've grown kind of fond of that comparison. The reason there can be no backhand implication there is simply because two typed out letters on the Internet carry virtually no tone. The only tone comes from the definition. You don't need to care about context.That being said, this stuff happens. It sounds heartless, but if someone's gonna kill themselves because someone made some nasty comments about them, then perhaps they shouldn't be on the Internet in the first place. The Internet was never exclusively a place for kids, and nor was it ever decided that it would be a safe place for them.
Delving into the internet is like strolling through a city. Nobody cares what happens to anyone else, and compassion is usually reserved for incidental gut reactions to things like this. Most people are decent, but they're not gonna do you any favors. If you do something they don't approve of, they're either gonna ignore it or openly mock you for it.
And there's nothing wrong with that. People hold opinions and I think they're perfectly entitled to them. I don't like a lot of opinions, but on the Internet, you're totally exposed to them. Yes, that may sound awful, but when you're being mocked by strangers in the middle of a city, you are in control of the situation. Nothing is stopping you from leaving. Some people might say that that's wrong, and that forcing people out of spaces is not right, but I never said that you had to leave either. And that's honestly the best way to deal with bullying as a whole. If you can't take it on the cheek, just get away from it and go somewhere else. It's not nice and it's not fair, but nobody ever said that life was meant to be that way.
Mind you, there is a very clear line here, and that's where harassment becomes unavoidable. The issue here is that it's a lot harder to define "unavoidable" on the internet. I do feel however that many people seem to have a definition of it that crosses a boundaries of its own–insofar that people say that you have the right not to be offended and that people who violate said right are bad people and should be punished.
I think that's stupid. So where is the line really? Again, it's hard to say, but I would like to think that it's just around where you are actively isolating yourself from communities that you consider to be against you and what you stand for. And, for the most part, I feel that it's pretty easy to do this on the internet. Most places on the world wide web that have profiles allow you to have private profiles or profiles that are not tied to your identity in any way shape or form, and past that the internet is strictly anonymous by definition. You can wall yourself up and only deal with other people if you absolutely want to, and again I think that some people who claim that they've been harassed on the internet should seriously consider this.
That being said, anything that crosses over into real-space is not good as far as harassment is concerned. The moment you're being physically harassed (meaning that there is a direct threat to your person or your property), someone has stepped over the line and started running. At that point though, you can simply contact the proper authorities and they should be able to deal with that for you, since that's their job.
The reason that this kind of thing affects children so much more than it affects rational adults is that most children lack understanding of the concept of personal responsibility. That is to say, most children have been raised to believe that if they are in an environment that is toxic to them, that they must simply bunker down and cope as best they can. Kids don't realize that they can just walk away on the internet because everything they do requires them to stay in one place.
If they have trouble on the internet, they can leave, but they don't realize that that's even an option. Why? Because they were raised in environments where they are more or less physically trapped, so they don't even understand the concept of escaping from a toxic environment.
But listen, that's all just what I've got for the overall picture. There's nasty stuff out there, and you've got to be ready to deal with. It's not easy to regulate everything on the Internet.
If you would like me to offer a different solution, I would advise turning your chat off. Block people on Twitter if need be. Talk to only people you trust–people who care for you and would be willing to look out for you.
Badlion may be a very restrictive server with its chat rules, but it's still so dofficult to moderate everything. And when it extends to Twitter, you can't do much from there. You may know by now that it's extremely difficult to be shielded from hurtful comments–that's just the nature of the Internet.
Last edited on 02 April 2016 - 11:59 PM by Cheatoh
Morsinius wrote
That being said, this stuff happens. It sounds heartless, but if someone's gonna kill themselves because someone made some nasty comments about them, then perhaps they shouldn't be on the Internet in the first place. The Internet was never exclusively a place for kids, and nor was it ever decided that it would be a safe place for them.
Delving into the internet is like strolling through a city. Nobody cares what happens to anyone else, and compassion is usually reserved for incidental gut reactions to things like this. Most people are decent, but they're not gonna do you any favors. If you do something they don't approve of, they're either gonna ignore it or openly mock you for it.
And there's nothing wrong with that. People hold opinions and I think they're perfectly entitled to them. I don't like a lot of opinions, but on the Internet, you're totally exposed to them. Yes, that may sound awful, but when you're being mocked by strangers in the middle of a city, you are in control of the situation. Nothing is stopping you from leaving. Some people might say that that's wrong, and that forcing people out of spaces is not right, but I never said that you had to leave either. And that's honestly the best way to deal with bullying as a whole. If you can't take it on the cheek, just get away from it and go somewhere else. It's not nice and it's not fair, but nobody ever said that life was meant to be that way.
Mind you, there is a very clear line here, and that's where harassment becomes unavoidable. The issue here is that it's a lot harder to define "unavoidable" on the internet. I do feel however that many people seem to have a definition of it that crosses a boundaries of its own–insofar that people say that you have the right not to be offended and that people who violate said right are bad people and should be punished.
I think that's stupid. So where is the line really? Again, it's hard to say, but I would like to think that it's just around where you are actively isolating yourself from communities that you consider to be against you and what you stand for. And, for the most part, I feel that it's pretty easy to do this on the internet. Most places on the world wide web that have profiles allow you to have private profiles or profiles that are not tied to your identity in any way shape or form, and past that the internet is strictly anonymous by definition. You can wall yourself up and only deal with other people if you absolutely want to, and again I think that some people who claim that they've been harassed on the internet should seriously consider this.
That being said, anything that crosses over into real-space is not good as far as harassment is concerned. The moment you're being physically harassed (meaning that there is a direct threat to your person or your property), someone has stepped over the line and started running. At that point though, you can simply contact the proper authorities and they should be able to deal with that for you, since that's their job.
The reason that this kind of thing affects children so much more than it affects rational adults is that most children lack understanding of the concept of personal responsibility. That is to say, most children have been raised to believe that if they are in an environment that is toxic to them, that they must simply bunker down and cope as best they can. Kids don't realize that they can just walk away on the internet because everything they do requires them to stay in one place.
If they have trouble on the internet, they can leave, but they don't realize that that's even an option. Why? Because they were raised in environments where they are more or less physically trapped, so they don't even understand the concept of escaping from a toxic environment.
But listen, that's all just what I've got for the overall picture. There's nasty stuff out there, and you've got to be ready to deal with. It's not easy to regulate everything on the Internet.
If you would like me to offer a different solution, I would advise turning your chat off. Block people on Twitter if need be. Talk to only people you trust–people who care for you and would be willing to look out for you.
Badlion may be a very restrictive server with its chat rules, but it's still so dofficult to moderate everything. And when it extends to Twitter, you can't do much from there. You may know by now that it's extremely difficult to be shielded from hurtful comments–that's just the nature of the Internet.
tl;dr if you cant deal with it leave and talk to people you trust
Posted on 03 April 2016 - 12:32 AM
gg/gf is meant to be good sportsmanship, but in all honesty, sometimes in not. Cleaning someone up that you don't like in a uhc, and then saying GG definitely isn't good sportsmanship.Posted on 03 April 2016 - 12:53 AM
I literally say gg/gf after every fightPosted on 03 April 2016 - 01:11 AM
maxtheawes0me wrote
Posted on 03 April 2016 - 02:10 AM
doggn wrote
maxtheawes0me wrote...
I also agree and I hate when people yell CLOSE after a quick match
Last edited on 03 April 2016 - 04:07 AM by Unsighted
Morsinius wrote
That being said, this stuff happens. It sounds heartless, but if someone's gonna kill themselves because someone made some nasty comments about them, then perhaps they shouldn't be on the Internet in the first place. The Internet was never exclusively a place for kids, and nor was it ever decided that it would be a safe place for them.
Delving into the internet is like strolling through a city. Nobody cares what happens to anyone else, and compassion is usually reserved for incidental gut reactions to things like this. Most people are decent, but they're not gonna do you any favors. If you do something they don't approve of, they're either gonna ignore it or openly mock you for it.
And there's nothing wrong with that. People hold opinions and I think they're perfectly entitled to them. I don't like a lot of opinions, but on the Internet, you're totally exposed to them. Yes, that may sound awful, but when you're being mocked by strangers in the middle of a city, you are in control of the situation. Nothing is stopping you from leaving. Some people might say that that's wrong, and that forcing people out of spaces is not right, but I never said that you had to leave either. And that's honestly the best way to deal with bullying as a whole. If you can't take it on the cheek, just get away from it and go somewhere else. It's not nice and it's not fair, but nobody ever said that life was meant to be that way.
Mind you, there is a very clear line here, and that's where harassment becomes unavoidable. The issue here is that it's a lot harder to define "unavoidable" on the internet. I do feel however that many people seem to have a definition of it that crosses a boundaries of its own–insofar that people say that you have the right not to be offended and that people who violate said right are bad people and should be punished.
I think that's stupid. So where is the line really? Again, it's hard to say, but I would like to think that it's just around where you are actively isolating yourself from communities that you consider to be against you and what you stand for. And, for the most part, I feel that it's pretty easy to do this on the internet. Most places on the world wide web that have profiles allow you to have private profiles or profiles that are not tied to your identity in any way shape or form, and past that the internet is strictly anonymous by definition. You can wall yourself up and only deal with other people if you absolutely want to, and again I think that some people who claim that they've been harassed on the internet should seriously consider this.
That being said, anything that crosses over into real-space is not good as far as harassment is concerned. The moment you're being physically harassed (meaning that there is a direct threat to your person or your property), someone has stepped over the line and started running. At that point though, you can simply contact the proper authorities and they should be able to deal with that for you, since that's their job.
The reason that this kind of thing affects children so much more than it affects rational adults is that most children lack understanding of the concept of personal responsibility. That is to say, most children have been raised to believe that if they are in an environment that is toxic to them, that they must simply bunker down and cope as best they can. Kids don't realize that they can just walk away on the internet because everything they do requires them to stay in one place.
If they have trouble on the internet, they can leave, but they don't realize that that's even an option. Why? Because they were raised in environments where they are more or less physically trapped, so they don't even understand the concept of escaping from a toxic environment.
But listen, that's all just what I've got for the overall picture. There's nasty stuff out there, and you've got to be ready to deal with. It's not easy to regulate everything on the Internet.
If you would like me to offer a different solution, I would advise turning your chat off. Block people on Twitter if need be. Talk to only people you trust–people who care for you and would be willing to look out for you.
Badlion may be a very restrictive server with its chat rules, but it's still so dofficult to moderate everything. And when it extends to Twitter, you can't do much from there. You may know by now that it's extremely difficult to be shielded from hurtful comments–that's just the nature of the Internet.
gotta disagree with the first part. If you have high ELO it can be pretty annoying when you lose a fight, of
course it is no excuse to tell someone to suicide, but some kids literally ask for it, they spam your pm's with 'GGGGGGGGGGG' BLATANTLY to annoy you, most of the time people say 'gg' with good intentions, but sometimes people just use it as a way to piss others off without getting muted.
+1 for the rest of that though
Posted on 03 April 2016 - 04:10 AM
@lachlolI know how you feel man. I've been feeling pretty depressed lately too, and people have been harrassing me on skype. The best way to deal with these people is to just block them and if groups of people turn against you then forget them, they were never real friends
Posted on 03 April 2016 - 10:39 AM
sorry this sounds cruel, but maybe just stop playing minecraft if you're gonna kill yourself over a block gamePosted on 03 April 2016 - 11:06 AM
CraftyGoesMoo wrote
^ Or stop going on the internet altogether.
Posted on 03 April 2016 - 11:40 AM
FunkyFactions wrote
CraftyGoesMoo wrote...
^ Or stop going on the internet altogether.
Last edited on 03 April 2016 - 12:59 PM by lachlol
CraftyGoesMoo wrote
sorry this sounds cruel, but maybe just stop being xKniqht for a change and stop shitposting
edit: here's some evidence on that since you're probably going to attack me on every front possible saying that has nothing to do with the thread
https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/102828?page=1
"cancer"
"its just a prank bro"
Posted on 03 April 2016 - 01:25 PM
BlueJewelGaming wrote
CraftyGoesMoo wrote...
sorry this sounds cruel, but maybe just stop being xKniqht for a change and stop shitposting
Hes giving you advice lmao. And its definitely something you should consider (not the suicide part)
Posted on 03 April 2016 - 02:31 PM
w5t wrote
CraftyGoesMoo wrote...
But the MOST helpful thing would be if people on the internet stopped having such soft skin.
Posted on 03 April 2016 - 06:39 PM