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Last edited on 07 April 2016 - 07:22 PM by Just_Peter
Pleepo wrote
Let me just address this.
Capitalism, for it to be in motion there must also be oppression or suffering. Have you heard of Belgian Chocolate? We all love it don't we but how did Belgians get Cocoa? The Belgians OPPRESSED the Congo Natives, effectively making them slaves in their own country. For what? Diamonds?! Gold?!! Chocolate?!!! It is a sickness.
Sure Capitalism provides innovation. Technology but think of what it stamps out!
Have you heard of Nikola Tesla? This makes me very sad. Tesla found a way to provide free energy for as many people that needed it. Even the whole world but because of corporate greed, and the need for people to make gross profits. His Ideas were squashed and lost in the past.
IMF, Unilever, Monopolies. The cost? Everything stated above as well as People who die daily in other countries. (though you may not give a shit about them I do) Capitalism will Maybe Possibly get to them eventually. But they are dying now.
Enslaving people is not just a capitalist idea. Again going back to the Soviet model. Millions were sent to labour camps to try and make up for the production that the economic system could not incentivise the workers to provide for, where they would most likely eventually die. Attempts at socialism in the real world have only caused greater inequalities than capitalism does today. Socialism largely only exists due to oppression in so called socialist states, that still exists today and the ones that existed in the Eastern Bloc only survived due to the oppression of its own people. Also can you provide a source on the Tesla thing, I searched it and the things that came up were just saying it was a myth. People dying in third world countries isn't necessarily as a result of capitalism, they live on land that simply can't provide enough resources for its own people, living standards in such countries have only risen in modern times, due to technology that has arisen from capitalist innovation and the financial aid given by capitalist countries.
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 07:52 PM
Pleepo wrote
Just_Peter wrote...
Let me just address this.
Capitalism, for it to be in motion there must also be oppression or suffering. Have you heard of Belgian Chocolate? We all love it don't we but how did Belgians get Cocoa? The Belgians OPPRESSED the Congo Natives, effectively making them slaves in their own country. For what? Diamonds?! Gold?!! Chocolate?!!! It is a sickness.
Sure Capitalism provides innovation. Technology but think of what it stamps out!
Have you heard of Nikola Tesla? This makes me very sad. Tesla found a way to provide free energy for as many people that needed it. Even the whole world but because of corporate greed, and the need for people to make gross profits. His Ideas were squashed and lost in the past.
IMF, Unilever, Monopolies. The cost? Everything stated above as well as People who die daily in other countries. (though you may not give a shit about them I do) Capitalism will Maybe Possibly get to them eventually. But they are dying now.
Vietcong /o/
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 08:13 PM
Pleepo wrote
Haha, this is something that students are indoctrinated with in High/Secondary School. It is a lie. Capitalism isn't even working, yet it is still in use.
Ah, here we are.
Someone has a different view than me? Check at least one!
☐ Brainwashed
☐ Racist
☐ Sexist
☐ Xenophobic
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 08:53 PM
Pleepo wrote
Just_Peter wrote...
Let me just address this.
Capitalism, for it to be in motion there must also be oppression or suffering. Have you heard of Belgian Chocolate? We all love it don't we but how did Belgians get Cocoa? The Belgians OPPRESSED the Congo Natives, effectively making them slaves in their own country. For what? Diamonds?! Gold?!! Chocolate?!!! It is a sickness.
Sure Capitalism provides innovation. Technology but think of what it stamps out!
Have you heard of Nikola Tesla? This makes me very sad. Tesla found a way to provide free energy for as many people that needed it. Even the whole world but because of corporate greed, and the need for people to make gross profits. His Ideas were squashed and lost in the past.
IMF, Unilever, Monopolies. The cost? Everything stated above as well as People who die daily in other countries. (though you may not give a shit about them I do) Capitalism will Maybe Possibly get to them eventually. But they are dying now.
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 08:54 PM
I absolutely hate Trump.Racist.
A fucking Racist, thats all he is.
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 08:58 PM
FemaleDogSlayer wrote
I absolutely hate Trump.
Racist.
A fucking Racist, thats all he is.
Racist.
A fucking Racist, thats all he is.
"Illegal immigrant" isn't a race.
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 09:00 PM
Jacub wrote
FemaleDogSlayer wrote...
"Illegal immigrant" isn't a race.
I never said Illegal Immigrants are a race.
They are people.
Last edited on 07 April 2016 - 09:04 PM by Aefunix
FemaleDogSlayer wrote
I never said Illegal Immigrants are a race.
They are people.
They are people.
Yes, they are people, but we have laws. If they want to come to America they should do so legally.
What makes him racist?
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 09:06 PM
Jacub wrote
FemaleDogSlayer wrote...
Yes, they are people, but we have laws. If they want to come to America they should do so legally.
What makes him racist?
Keep in mind that this IS very biased, but here is an example.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trump-is-a-bigot-and-a-racist/2015/12/01/a2a47b96-9872-11e5-8917-653b65c809eb_story.html
Rounding up 11 million people and deporting them all at once?
And look at how many times in the news recently saying "Black person beat up in Trump Rally" or "Trump supporter gets assaulted" etc
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 09:16 PM
Jacub wrote
Pleepo wrote...
Ah, here we are.
Someone has a different view than me? Check at least one!
☐ Brainwashed
☐ Racist
☐ Sexist
☐ Xenophobic
Lol, the only reason you'll be scared to be seen as one is if you are one.
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 09:18 PM
Jacub wrote
Pleepo wrote...
Ah, here we are.
Someone has a different view than me? Check at least one!
☐ Brainwashed
☐ Racist
☐ Sexist
☐ Xenophobic
Also I was talking about indoctrination and poor education system that breeds ignorance in the minds of young people such as yourself.
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 09:27 PM
FemaleDogSlayer wrote
Rounding up 11 million people and deporting them all at once?
Again, "illegal immigrant" isn't a race. Emphasis on illegal, as being in the country illegally is against our country's laws.
FemaleDogSlayer wrote
And look at how many times in the news recently saying "Black person beat up in Trump Rally" or "Trump supporter gets assaulted" etc
I agree violence is a bad thing, and unfortunately there has in fact been violence from both sides. Everyone should be able to voice their opinion.
Last edited on 07 April 2016 - 09:35 PM by Aefunix
Pleepo wrote
Lol, the only reason you'll be scared to be seen as one is if you are one.
Kind of confused as to what this is supposed to mean. The checkbox comment was in response to you jumping to call be brainwashed.
Pleepo wrote
Also I was talking about indoctrination and poor education system that breeds ignorance in the minds of young people such as yourself.
My Government teacher was (is, but she is no longer my teacher as I have graduated) very openly liberal, and as far as I am aware is going to be voting for Sanders, always encouraged discussion about topics in class, and was very open to debate. I don't think she instilled "ignorance in my young mind". God forbid people form opinions different from yours.
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 09:59 PM
Pleepo wrote
Jacub wrote...
Also I was talking about indoctrination and poor education system that breeds ignorance in the minds of young people such as yourself.
"Someone has a different view than me? They must be a young person that has no education!"
You are an idiot and are horrible at arguing.
Posted on 07 April 2016 - 10:29 PM
FemaleDogSlayer wrote
I absolutely hate Trump.
Racist.
A fucking Racist, thats all he is.
Racist.
A fucking Racist, thats all he is.
Back on this topic, here's a list of some pro-minority things Trump has done. (not all race related)
Trump defended Mar-a-Lago's open door policy for people of all races in the 1990s. Link,Link2
Trump worked with the Rainbow-PUSH coalition to bring blacks and minorities into corporate America. Link
Trump donated to Raising Malwai, a "volunteer organization which helps orphans in one of the poorest countries in the world by providing water, food, medical care, and schooling."
Trump donated $25,000 to a mostly black women's basketball league after the founder was killed in the 9/11 attack. Link
In 2000, he declared that he supported gay anti-discrimination laws and the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell. He also advocated for “a very strong domestic-partnership law that guarantees gay people the same legal protections and rights as married people. His book, released that same year, wistfully described his dream of an America “unencumbered by … discrimination against people based on sexual orientation.” The details of Trump’s gay rights views are even more impressive. Trump didn’t just want states to pass their own anti-discrimination laws: He supported amending the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964 to ban sexual orientation discrimination. Like Trump’s other pro-gay positions, this stance was extremely liberal for its time. In fact, it’s strikingly progressive even today. Link
Donald Trump changed Miss Universe rules to allow transgender contestants like Jenna Talackova to compete. Link
Trump flew a critically ill Jewish boy in his private jet from California to New York for medical treatment. He was refused entry to an airplane because he was in a wheelchair and in the middle of chemotherapy. Trump skipped some meeting he was going to for a lending of his private jet to fly them to their destination. Link
Gave $10,000 to a black (I hate that I even need to point that out) bus driver who gained worldwide fame after rescuing a "suicidal" woman from a freeway bridge. Link
"Mr. Trump learned about Clyde Frazier Jr., a young African-American man in New York who ran the Harlem Hoops Basketball tournament in the inner city. Clyde died in the 9/11 attacks on New York, and the tournament had to be shut down. Mr. Trump told his aides to find Clyde's father and when they did, Trump donated the money to keep the tournament operating." - Jerry Falwell Jr. Link
Trump helped Jennifer Hudson after her family members was killed Link
Trump's spokesperson is Katrina Pierson, a black woman.
Trump's daughter and son-in-law are Jewish.
His wife is a (legal) immigrant.
Posted on 08 April 2016 - 01:05 AM
Automatically DeletedPosted on 08 April 2016 - 03:45 AM
Pleepo wrote
Let me just address this.
Capitalism, for it to be in motion there must also be oppression or suffering. Have you heard of Belgian Chocolate? We all love it don't we but how did Belgians get Cocoa? The Belgians OPPRESSED the Congo Natives, effectively making them slaves in their own country. For what? Diamonds?! Gold?!! Chocolate?!!! It is a sickness.
Sure Capitalism provides innovation. Technology but think of what it stamps out!
I think imperialism exists/would exist under any regime
Posted on 08 April 2016 - 12:53 PM
Just_Peter wrote
Pleepo wrote...
Enslaving people is not just a capitalist idea. Again going back to the Soviet model. Millions were sent to labour camps to try and make up for the production that the economic system could not incentivise the workers to provide for, where they would most likely eventually die. Attempts at socialism in the real world have only caused greater inequalities than capitalism does today. Socialism largely only exists due to oppression in so called socialist states, that still exists today and the ones that existed in the Eastern Bloc only survived due to the oppression of its own people. Also can you provide a source on the Tesla thing, I searched it and the things that came up were just saying it was a myth. People dying in third world countries isn't necessarily as a result of capitalism, they live on land that simply can't provide enough resources for its own people, living standards in such countries have only risen in modern times, due to technology that has arisen from capitalist innovation and the financial aid given by capitalist countries.
smh @Pleepo any response?
Posted on 09 April 2016 - 12:18 PM
wasnt there a candidate called deez nutsPosted on 09 April 2016 - 02:32 PM
LegibleToe762 wrote
wasnt there a candidate called deez nuts