Last edited on 18 April 2016 - 07:14 PM by lachlol

Does anyone else think that Badlion should move the NA East servers south by about 300-400 miles? I mean, let's be real, how many people REALLY live in Canada compared to the US? I would not mind the servers being moved to DC or St. Louis or even Philadelphia. Gberry did say that they moved the servers to give people who live in Texas and in that region an advantage, but it was never a big advantage. It changed a LOT for about 15% of the community, but for another 30% it changed very little- sure, it moved us into a lower ping zone, but moving from PZ III to PZ II really isn't the best, considering I have seen people say in chat before the servers were moved: "ya i live in NC" and then a couple months after they were moved they said "yah i just moved to montreal from raleigh". Plus, the US community is a whole lot larger. I've made a post about this before; there's this one ping zone that isn't a normal one. Instead, it is the worst PZ you can possibly be in if you're actually decent at block game. It's from about 70ms to around 130ms, and I know many players who play in this zone that actually quit because of it- it's not good to the point where you can straightline just about anyone, but it's not bad enough to make people think you're Arabian and lag around the arena a lot. I do know that moving servers can't happen overnight and it would take some time. However, I would like for you to take the time sometime soon.

"well play on west then if ur in texas and u get shitty ms to east"

I have seen this before, too. Here's my response to that:
https://gyazo.com/40b6fa9e0a44c37b1c9630252afc9caa
https://gyazo.com/1d58f740fb8118237e1fddbd55873310

The other 105 people on are just AFK or creating banter in chat. Plus, if you run into the 12-year-old who thinks he's good because he got a modified version of Spook that bypasses GCheat, is there anyone you can tell about it? Sure, /report sends to every staff member on, but at any given time there's only gonna be these people:

-UHC Hosts that can't leave because they're hosting a game
-Staff members grinding ELO for a YouTube series like m0xy/Hivlik
-Staff members answering reports on NAE and EU servers only and cannot leave that position
-Staff members playing SG
-Staff members that are AFK (but likely doing other staff business that they have to do)
This leaves one more:
-Staff who actually drop everything and go onto NAW to help out
These are rare, but like I said before, the staff are either doing their job or getting a kick out of their favorite game. So this was not to shit on staff, since staff are pretty good.


TL:DR Some players want the servers moved and those that play on West run into hackers that can't be dealt with 95% of the time.

EDIT: Here's another "quick" breakdown of what I'm looking at. This will involve laggers and somewhat solving that problem.

So here's my suggestion as to where it could be moved:

Frankfort, KT

I did look at a US map (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiYw97PoZnMAhUBKCYKHdR4BZkQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgeology.com%2Fworld%2Fthe-united-states-of-america-satellite-image.shtml&psig=AFQjCNEodreOqcUp_0P1q5DZbnUZ1FwUhQ&ust=1461105858473206) and found that this location is far east enough to the point where it can still be called NAE, and south enough so players in Mexico don't lag around. That's another biggie: Most southern Mexican players do get 200+ ping to NAE Badlion, and nobody likes watching someone take a .2 second delay of knockback, right? Mexico has a large population. Mexico City is in the south. This is the largest city in North America (no, it's not NYC, for anyone wondering) and with such a population there will be quite a few Minecraft players out of those 21.2 million in the Greater Mexico City area. Maybe around 180,000 (this is an estimate, no h8 pls). And it's likely that around 20,000 of those have heard of/play Badlion. It can be quite frustrating when you're in a match with someone who's taking .2 to .25 seconds of delayed knockback, right? And then moving it to Frankfort will lower that drastically; it can possibly lower their ping to around 140. This makes it manageable for the rest of the NA players. Plus, since the Frankfort area isn't so populated, not as many people will get like 9 ping to the server. When West was added, I saw people saying they got 5-25ms because they lived around LA. LA is a big city, and that's exactly why. Frankfort isn't, and this way people with 10ms will not be as common. As for European/Australian players? If you still find people lagging tell them the IP to those two servers. This way both of you can have more fun. Asian players? Eh, they're gonna be a problem when it comes to lag. But Gberry and Archy have said before: "We do not plan to create servers in Asia because the donation base is not large enough. If we had the donations and the knowledge that they would keep coming, we would open one." I have been thinking, and I've come to the conclusion that since Asia is so big, here are the three regions I've broken them down to:

Eastern Asia
Southern Asia
Western Asia

And with this, I've come to the conclusion that players in Eastern Asia should play on NAW. I am making an estimate here; players will most likely get around 160-220 ping. This isn't good in any way, but it's the best I could think about. Players in Southern Asia should play on AU. An estimate here (since Southern Asia is large if you think about it) would be that if you are in India and you are playing on the AU proxy you'd get around 230ms. If you are in Thailand and playing on the AU Proxy you'd get around 150ms. If you are in eastern Indonesia you'd get around 110ms. So that brings me to this conclusion: players in Southern Asia will range from 110ms to 230ms, depending on location again. Players in Western Asia should definitely be connecting to the EU proxy. If you are in St. Petersburg (I know this is in Europe, but it's part of a country stretching between the two) you will most likely get around 120-130ms. If you're in Turkey it'll likely be somewhere around 160ms. All of these are estimates and should not be thought of as correct.

Posted on 16 April 2016 - 08:28 PM

Because where people live is the only factor when choosing a host

Posted on 16 April 2016 - 08:29 PM

No, SCREW MURICA @*deleted-83599

Posted on 16 April 2016 - 08:30 PM

Studies have conducted the fact that people cannot read threads this long at that speed without getting something out of it. You probably looked at the TLDR.

Posted on 16 April 2016 - 08:32 PM

ikr

Posted on 16 April 2016 - 09:57 PM

+1 bring the host back to Virginia, I want 30ms again :D

Posted on 16 April 2016 - 10:07 PM

Texans don't feel the pain that Southern Californians feel.

Posted on 16 April 2016 - 10:21 PM

It should be moves to the Caribbean, specifically Barbados, everyone wins ;)

Posted on 16 April 2016 - 11:53 PM

ik man :/

I have felt your pain of being in PZ3 before .-.

Posted on 17 April 2016 - 01:18 AM

Ha you should have a bit of a South American ping that more than 1000 players get. 150 ping is low for us.


And yes, I know they don't have a server here because they want a good host. (But c'mon, how aren't there any decent hosts in S.A.?)

Last edited on 17 April 2016 - 02:06 AM by H2Q

complain about 50 ping more
ungrateful nerds

Posted on 17 April 2016 - 09:23 AM

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Posted on 17 April 2016 - 09:30 AM

Isn't that what the tl;dr is for

Posted on 17 April 2016 - 11:14 AM

Yeah, if Badlion could open a server in SA it would be nice. But hey, at least you're not in that one ping zone!

Last edited on 17 April 2016 - 11:51 AM by RowlModel

- "Does anyone else think that Badlion should move the NA East servers south by about 300-400 miles?"

Ehhh, I don't really have an exact input on this question. It really does depend on the hosts 300-400mi south of where NAE is already being hosted from. I honestly think we should just keep it the same because everyone's already used to it and knows their connection (how far they can hit, how fast they can rod, bow delay, etc.).

- "I mean, let's be real, how many people REALLY live in Canada compared to the US? "

It's not just about the general population of people in an area with a host. They most likely chose the host in Canada because it was better for the server and if we ARE going to talk about population, it's good for a decent amount of people in U.S, a lot of servers are hosted there.

- "I do know that moving servers can't happen overnight and it would take some time."

In reality, someone has got to have the bad ping. Not everyone can have good connection, Badlion gets players from all around the globe.

- " Gberry did say that they moved the servers to give people who live in Texas and in that region an advantage, but it was never a big advantage. It changed a LOT for about 15% of the community, but for another 30% it changed very little- sure, it moved us into a lower ping zone, but moving from PZ III to PZ II really isn't the best, considering I have seen people say in chat before the servers were moved: "ya i live in NC" and then a couple months after they were moved they said "yah i just moved to montreal from raleigh"."

That's one long sentence. Anyway, to put my input in on the first sentence, I'd have to ask what do you even mean by "it was never a big advantage"? Do you think they should've made it a huge advantage just for Texans?

For the second sentence, where are you even getting these percentages from?

Posted on 17 April 2016 - 12:24 PM

Gberry also said that they moved server locations every 6-8 months. Last time they switched was when Season 9 started, back in June. Hey! It's April! Cool! I know I am hyped for this year's 4/20.

Posted on 17 April 2016 - 01:57 PM

I live in Georgia and get 80 ms to Badlion East servers. I used to get 30ms back when badlion had a soup server :(

Posted on 17 April 2016 - 10:02 PM

Listen, bud.
I am not sure who you are but by your tone and content in your words I can assume you are from Canada, yet you name yourself "Kangaroo_Games", which would imply you are Australian. You also follow up with "m8" which is not a word, but can be interpreted as "mate". Are you Australian or Canadian sir?

Last edited on 17 April 2016 - 11:01 PM by Jwles

I honestly really don't really get why everyone always complains about ping, I play on west with 20 1/2 the time and 115 on East the other 1/2 the time. There's nothing bad about it.
Edit: sweaty players don't need good ping to be good as well.

Posted on 17 April 2016 - 11:28 PM

I'm fine with my 60 ping. I don't see that big of a difference ever since they move. I used to get 40 ping when it was in Virginia but I guess they know what they're doing. They've been doing this for years now. I'm just happy there's a pvp server out there that knows what they are doing.