Posted on 26 December 2013 - 10:19 PM
Giving hackers a second chance is such a horrible idea. These are not trustworthy people. They are the kind that try to deceive others into thinking they are good while playing with hacks. That's why they got banned.These people don't change, and every hacker that I have seen unbanned has continued hacking, with the exception of SKTLE (even though he should still be banned too).
What the hell is with second chances? Why do these people even come close to being deserving of playing on this server? They fucking ruin everything, and they're still at it, hacking right now. Unfortunately, they're not totally braindead, so whenever I'm on or one of my alts is on, I can only get so much recording. It's so fucking obvious when fighting them that they are using it, however this proof is not enough for the admins generally.
That being said, these hackers are climbing the ranked ladders with subtle cheats when they are losing and it's ruining the integrity of the ladders. In the future, please do not unban cheaters. They don't deserve a second chance, and when they are given it, they abuse it.
Posted on 26 December 2013 - 11:23 PM
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What does that have anything to do with it? Also, not only is that an account where I fuck around and don't use any debuffs, but I can do that too.https://www.badlion.net/match/kitpvp/203151
https://www.badlion.net/match/kitpvp/203128
Sorry that I don't believe in second chances.
Edit: Actually, third chances. I nominated you for a moderator because I obviously didn't know you well a while ago. You then abused the powers and got banned/demodded (not certain which). Then, you got banned for cheating. Now, you're unbanned again…this is just getting ridiculous. In all seriousness, I shouldn't even have to provide proof that you are hacking now. The sheer fact that you are allowed to play on this server still boggles my mind.
Posted on 27 December 2013 - 01:44 AM
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winwreck wrote
Yeah, because that proves fuck-all.
*facepalm*
It's honestly ridiculous you're unbanned. Between abusing mod perms, hacking afterwards, and now probably hacking again, you're a real grade-A cunt, and no amount of beating Hatto's alts will change that.
And "Proof pls"? Pretty sure Livided has a video of you using blatant cheats. Why don't you just fuck off and find another server to cheat on? Nobody here is falling for your illusion of being good - you did cheat, you still do cheat, and that makes you shit.
Posted on 27 December 2013 - 03:55 AM
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winwreck wrote
The reason I even commented on this in the first place is that it was obviously about me, considering it was posted minutes after we fought.
I am not trying to make an illusion of anything, I simply play on this server to fucking practice.
Clearly if you have to "hack to try to get up the ladder quickly after being unbanned," you're trying to keep up some illusion of being good. Believe me that if I was an admin, you would have been permabanned with no chance for appeal when you first abused your mod powers. The fact that you've gotten away with cheating after abusing your mod powers, and continue to cheat now, is just disgusting.
Posted on 27 December 2013 - 04:09 AM
This wasn't explicitly about you. Were you included in this group? Yes. But you made it about yourself.Obviously the moderators and admins are on completely separate pages. You said that I should just get some proof and just ban you myself. I have plenty of videos that, to me, are indeed proof. To the admins, not so much. This is where the disparity occurs.
This post was mostly towards the admins to NOT give so many second or third chances, not to specifically call you out and brag about killing you/getting killed in a ranked match.
Posted on 27 December 2013 - 04:11 AM
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It's honestly 50/50. We typically only unban well known hackers, because the damage of them being caught the first time is enough damage. Everyone will always be watching them from now, and they are forced to play legit or they will be caught very very fast. Most of the hackers we've unbanned have been for toggle sprint other then a few exceptions (winwreck being one of them)About half of the players we know start cheating again, the other half don't.
Honestly I am being too lenient with my unbans lately, and that's because I've been in a relationship and it's making me a nicer person, which interferes with my judgments.
Posted on 27 December 2013 - 04:19 AM
winwreck wrote
UnPhair wrote...
Elaborate, because I haven't even seen you on the server since I have been unbanned.
That's probably because I've been on vacation, but I trust Hatto's judgement and if he claims to have evidence of someone with a history of cheating cheating, you better believe I'm going to trust him.
Posted on 27 December 2013 - 04:37 AM
I personally am all for unbanning if the person legitimately says "i fucked up, sorry".What good is there in a prison system if not rehabilitation? Sure, some people will never change, but they never last long. It's helping the people that will become productive that unbanning achieves.
As Archy said, many people can come back and be awesome people.
Posted on 27 December 2013 - 05:28 AM
I guess that's where our fundamental difference lies, Pika. From my experience, there are no second chances for breaking the rules to a specific extent (like hacking). You know the rules, you're being extremely malicious and fucking up everyone else's experience, you're outta here.Posted on 27 December 2013 - 05:33 AM
Most of the bans have been from 1.5/1.6 and were related to toggle sprint (other then a select few)You won't see much unbans for FF/Aimbot/AntiKB from now on, as they are very malicious and require clients.
Posted on 27 December 2013 - 01:56 PM
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SKTLE wrote
Anytime.
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