Posted on 31 July 2014 - 06:13 AM
A couple weeks ago a new cannon was introduced to the factions community and this cannon is known as a corner roof hybrid cannon, its very op and it can get trough the best defended bases with a couple shots.This cannon being used to raid bases:
Example of what it can do:
How to patch it:
remove the ability for sand/gravel to turn into a solid block at Y255, so anyones base is defended from above if you have a water-covered roof at max buildable height.
P.S: Sorry for posting vids with a IP on them, but it's not like it matters that server already has enough people. Anyways plzz patch this cannon.
P.S.S: Cascoid (the mod) tried using a design of this cannon against my base, he'll tell you if its op or not.
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 06:27 AM
+1As fun as they are to use, they need to be terminated lol
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 06:38 AM
I don't have a problem with them. I see what your point is but I think it's still fine.Posted on 31 July 2014 - 06:39 AM
I've hardly played factions in my life, but TNT should not be able to get past Obsidian. I know for a fact the sand+TNT trick is a MC bug.-snip-
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 06:43 AM
The design you used was 1% of what the modified ones are. If getting inside a good defended base in 5 min by using this roof cannon isin't op, idk what is. @ cascoidPosted on 31 July 2014 - 07:22 AM
Anyways, if you have your base defended well enough on your roof anyways, you shouldn't be worried about cannons like this ;3Posted on 31 July 2014 - 07:32 AM
Cascoid wrote
That's actually not true, currently there are no defenses to stop this cannon and that's why it's being disabled on servers like gontroller
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 07:59 AM
Bother me tomorrow when i am awake.Posted on 31 July 2014 - 09:21 AM
Just make sand break at sky limit and it won't work anymore, maybe @Pikaoku has already done itPosted on 31 July 2014 - 10:38 AM
Ah the AC130, there's better roof cannons. Nobody has been able to create the AC130 in their own singleplayer world yet, apart from 2 guys. I am extremely sure that nobody of these 2 guys are on badlion.They had beingsad in half the vids lol, beingsad's cannon is a very good cannon aswell. Not surprised that he is in 1 of them, mayowaffles is in 1. Etc.
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 06:11 PM
CallmePyrus wrote
They had beingsad in half the vids lol, beingsad's cannon is a very good cannon aswell. Not surprised that he is in 1 of them, mayowaffles is in 1. Etc.
Everyone has the download….. they can just copy it from single player
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 07:17 PM
+1 to removing themBut the only reason they're so effective is because factions with 30 chunk buffers on servers like Gontroller didn't claim their corners to save on land. If you were to just claim your corners up until the cannons are disabled on this server, it'd make things go a lot better for you. The cannon that's been released by mayowaffles is pretty weak and can't shoot more than 2-3 chunks. So unless somebody has modified it by themselves, just claim a few chunks in your corners up until it's removed and you're fine.
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 07:25 PM
MasterGberry wrote
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 07:33 PM
Was fixed on reboot.Posted on 31 July 2014 - 08:10 PM
XxSprayAndPrey wrote
CallmePyrus wrote...
Everyone has the download….. they can just copy it from single player
"Everyone has the download"
Nobody apart from 5-10 guys(officialy) copied it yet, beingsad did, wiseandfunfox did and a friend of mine did. I am pretty sure that isn't anybody from badlion, the redstone part is HIGLY advanced. You'd use hours on directly learning the cannon.
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 08:20 PM
MasterGberry wrote
@MasterGberry
How did u patch it? stop sand / gravel & anvils being able to stack at y=255 or destroy entities above y=255 ?
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 08:47 PM
Ocracy wrote
Cascoid wrote...
That's actually not true, currently there are no defenses to stop this cannon and that's why it's being disabled on servers like gontroller
I agree with cascoid.
You can defend against these cannons, you can even defend against them 100% although its impractical, also theres no defences to stop a normal cannon either.
You can still slow it down, especially on BL where obsidian is protected by water & the main reason people use it is because the factions have like 80+ walls.
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 08:55 PM
VertX_ wrote
Ocracy wrote...
I agree with cascoid.
You can defend against these cannons 100% although its impractical, also theres no defences to stop a normal cannon either.
You can still slow it down, especially on BL where obsidian is protected by water & the main reason people use it is because the factions have like 80+ walls.
There's only so much you can do with roof defenses. Firing downwards on a base is very different from cannoning from a side. If you are cannoning sideways, you have to stack sand throughout every wall, which takes time. When you are cannoning a roof, there is no sand to stack besides the sand used for the hybrid. You can have 30 layers of roof defenses and the cannon will go through it in minutes.
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 09:14 PM
blakecwilson wrote
VertX_ wrote...
There's only so much you can do with roof defenses. Firing downwards on a base is very different from cannoning from a side. If you are cannoning sideways, you have to stack sand throughout every wall, which takes time. When you are cannoning a roof, there is no sand to stack besides the sand used for the hybrid. You can have 30 layers of roof defenses and the cannon will go through it in minutes.
I agree the cannoning is quicker, but lets say that 30 layers is obsidian, thats 4 shots a layer, & although the cannon doesn't have to be as powerful It has to shoot 2 up 1 sideways & 1 down so its not cheap on TNT either. so now were at 120 shots. Add that to the fact its only accurate on the same block for ~70 blocks down its more of a cannon to get in your base rather than raid spawners, also if a faction has more than one pillar they would have to rebuild the cannon. I'm not hating on the fact its been nerfed, im happy either way. Just I think it would be more viable to patch it if people had more defences & walls! I've seen no one build cuts & I'd be suprised to find a base with more that 4 walls :P
Posted on 31 July 2014 - 09:22 PM
CallmePyrus wrote
XxSprayAndPrey wrote...
"Everyone has the download"
Nobody apart from 5-10 guys(officialy) copied it yet, beingsad did, wiseandfunfox did and a friend of mine did. I am pretty sure that isn't anybody from badlion, the redstone part is HIGLY advanced. You'd use hours on directly learning the cannon.
doood I have the download I can post a vid of me using it , it's not that hard to copy something from singleplayer and paste it on the server