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Last edited on 04 May 2016 - 05:11 PM by GodAtDayZ
Here goes - Long post.If you are in fact illiterate or have the mental capacity of an amoeba like @Lupo , look away now. Please.
Disable the doubleclick check, or whatever check is detecting many of these butterfly clickers/causing the false bans, or at least make it very lax on banning players.
The thing is many Kohi players are crying out about getting banned for butterfly clicking, and even though it's not allowed, it's hardly a program modification or anything. (I should add I cannot butterfly, or even jitter for that matter.)
Reasons: As I've seen, there are many players saying they're legit. Gloryblade got false banned, TrendE too I believe (I know they were not butterfly clicking, and who knows about AutismPanda) God knows how many others have been false banned but not unbanned because they haven't been shown to make any impact on the whole Badlion community or players.
If this is seen to happen more frequently more of us will doubt GCheat, more than there was when Stimpay got banned (as we KNOW they're being false banned)
There must be a fuckton of checks for GCheat, disable which is banning falsely, then as the logs rack up for other players, ban the players which are definitely cheating on JD.
You guys are so secretive about GCheat these days, "Denied, you were cheating" isn't really a valid reason for denying what could be an innocent player to play on BL. Just saying.
I don't want anyone commenting "don't question GCheat" go outside honestly. There's wonderful things outside you've never seen, like the great orb of fire called "the Sun". Majestic and beautiful. Let the suns rays touch your pearly white pale skin for the first time, as you gaze at it and burn holes in your fucking eyeballs and blind you for life. No, I do not like you.
Thoughts?
Posted on 04 May 2016 - 06:22 PM
chocs wrote
Here goes - Long post.
If you are in fact illiterate or have the mental capacity of an amoeba like @Lupo , look away now. Please.
Disable the doubleclick check, or whatever check is detecting many of these butterfly clickers/causing the false bans, or at least make it very lax on banning players.
The thing is many Kohi players are crying out about getting banned for butterfly clicking, and even though it's not allowed, it's hardly a program modification or anything. (I should add I cannot butterfly, or even jitter for that matter.)
Reasons: As I've seen, there are many players saying they're legit. Gloryblade got false banned, TrendE too I believe (I know they were not butterfly clicking, and who knows about AutismPanda) God knows how many others have been false banned but not unbanned because they haven't been shown to make any impact on the whole Badlion community or players.
If this is seen to happen more frequently more of us will doubt GCheat, more than there was when Stimpay got banned (as we KNOW they're being false banned)
There must be a fuckton of checks for GCheat, disable which is banning falsely, then as the logs rack up for other players, ban the players which are definitely cheating on JD.
You guys are so secretive about GCheat these days, "Denied, you were cheating" isn't really a valid reason for denying what could be an innocent player to play on BL. Just saying.
I don't want anyone commenting "don't question GCheat" go outside honestly. There's wonderful things outside you've never seen, like the great orb of fire called "the Sun". Majestic and beautiful. Let the suns rays touch your pearly white pale skin for the first time, as you gaze at it and burn holes in your fucking eyeballs and blind you for life. No, I do not like you.
Thoughts?
If you are in fact illiterate or have the mental capacity of an amoeba like @Lupo , look away now. Please.
Disable the doubleclick check, or whatever check is detecting many of these butterfly clickers/causing the false bans, or at least make it very lax on banning players.
The thing is many Kohi players are crying out about getting banned for butterfly clicking, and even though it's not allowed, it's hardly a program modification or anything. (I should add I cannot butterfly, or even jitter for that matter.)
Reasons: As I've seen, there are many players saying they're legit. Gloryblade got false banned, TrendE too I believe (I know they were not butterfly clicking, and who knows about AutismPanda) God knows how many others have been false banned but not unbanned because they haven't been shown to make any impact on the whole Badlion community or players.
If this is seen to happen more frequently more of us will doubt GCheat, more than there was when Stimpay got banned (as we KNOW they're being false banned)
There must be a fuckton of checks for GCheat, disable which is banning falsely, then as the logs rack up for other players, ban the players which are definitely cheating on JD.
You guys are so secretive about GCheat these days, "Denied, you were cheating" isn't really a valid reason for denying what could be an innocent player to play on BL. Just saying.
I don't want anyone commenting "don't question GCheat" go outside honestly. There's wonderful things outside you've never seen, like the great orb of fire called "the Sun". Majestic and beautiful. Let the suns rays touch your pearly white pale skin for the first time, as you gaze at it and burn holes in your fucking eyeballs and blind you for life. No, I do not like you.
Thoughts?
@Lupo I think this man has something against you
Posted on 04 May 2016 - 06:35 PM
chocs wrote
If you are in fact illiterate or have the mental capacity of an amoeba like @Lupo , look away now. Please.
Posted on 04 May 2016 - 06:38 PM
aightPosted on 05 May 2016 - 03:08 AM
lovely, 3 replies unrelated to the point of the thread. Your posts have quality!@freekkiller Can't you honestly warn these kids or something? I tell them to not look at the thread because I don't want them shitposting, yet they go ahead and shitpost anyway, ignoring the entire point of the thread, again.
Posted on 05 May 2016 - 03:12 AM
this is a related reply.Posted on 05 May 2016 - 03:20 AM
chocs wrote
Here goes - Long post.
If you are in fact illiterate or have the mental capacity of an amoeba like @Lupo , look away now. Please.
Disable the doubleclick check, or whatever check is detecting many of these butterfly clickers/causing the false bans, or at least make it very lax on banning players.
The thing is many Kohi players are crying out about getting banned for butterfly clicking, and even though it's not allowed, it's hardly a program modification or anything. (I should add I cannot butterfly, or even jitter for that matter.)
Reasons: As I've seen, there are many players saying they're legit. Gloryblade got false banned, TrendE too I believe (I know they were not butterfly clicking, and who knows about AutismPanda) God knows how many others have been false banned but not unbanned because they haven't been shown to make any impact on the whole Badlion community or players.
If this is seen to happen more frequently more of us will doubt GCheat, more than there was when Stimpay got banned (as we KNOW they're being false banned)
There must be a fuckton of checks for GCheat, disable which is banning falsely, then as the logs rack up for other players, ban the players which are definitely cheating on JD.
You guys are so secretive about GCheat these days, "Denied, you were cheating" isn't really a valid reason for denying what could be an innocent player to play on BL. Just saying.
I don't want anyone commenting "don't question GCheat" go outside honestly. There's wonderful things outside you've never seen, like the great orb of fire called "the Sun". Majestic and beautiful. Let the suns rays touch your pearly white pale skin for the first time, as you gaze at it and burn holes in your fucking eyeballs and blind you for life. No, I do not like you.
Thoughts?
If you are in fact illiterate or have the mental capacity of an amoeba like @Lupo , look away now. Please.
Disable the doubleclick check, or whatever check is detecting many of these butterfly clickers/causing the false bans, or at least make it very lax on banning players.
The thing is many Kohi players are crying out about getting banned for butterfly clicking, and even though it's not allowed, it's hardly a program modification or anything. (I should add I cannot butterfly, or even jitter for that matter.)
Reasons: As I've seen, there are many players saying they're legit. Gloryblade got false banned, TrendE too I believe (I know they were not butterfly clicking, and who knows about AutismPanda) God knows how many others have been false banned but not unbanned because they haven't been shown to make any impact on the whole Badlion community or players.
If this is seen to happen more frequently more of us will doubt GCheat, more than there was when Stimpay got banned (as we KNOW they're being false banned)
There must be a fuckton of checks for GCheat, disable which is banning falsely, then as the logs rack up for other players, ban the players which are definitely cheating on JD.
You guys are so secretive about GCheat these days, "Denied, you were cheating" isn't really a valid reason for denying what could be an innocent player to play on BL. Just saying.
I don't want anyone commenting "don't question GCheat" go outside honestly. There's wonderful things outside you've never seen, like the great orb of fire called "the Sun". Majestic and beautiful. Let the suns rays touch your pearly white pale skin for the first time, as you gaze at it and burn holes in your fucking eyeballs and blind you for life. No, I do not like you.
Thoughts?
Well some claims in this post are just wrong
-Butterfly clicking recently got disallowed on Kohi too. If you want to read why we disallow butterfly clicking, read here
-Gloryblade didn't get banned because of the doubleclick check. He got banned for something else that, after his ban, got CHANGED so the false ban shouldn't occur again.
-Stimpay didn't get banned because of the doubleclick check either >_> Read more about his ban here
-TrendE did, but he was PvPing at his friends house with a faulty mouse which doubleclicked a lot. We already established that. Since TrendE got unbanned he didn't set off any kind of fishy logs anymore.
-AutismPanda, idk who he is
-We are secretive about GCheat for a reason, because publishing logs and telling what check people set off gives the cheaters/Devs a REALLY easy opportunity to just keep on cheating/creating new clients that bypass. You'd understand if you'd understand GCheat, but rip :(
-Don't worry about me not getting outside enough lol, the weather is going to be amazing this weekend.
Last edited on 05 May 2016 - 03:46 AM by GodAtDayZ
freekkiller wrote
chocs wrote...
Well some claims in this post are just wrong
-Butterfly clicking recently got disallowed on Kohi too. If you want to read why we disallow butterfly clicking, read here
-Gloryblade didn't get banned because of the doubleclick check. He got banned for something else that, after his ban, got CHANGED so the false ban shouldn't occur again.
-Stimpay didn't get banned because of the doubleclick check either >_> Read more about his ban here
-TrendE did, but he was PvPing at his friends house with a faulty mouse which doubleclicked a lot. We already established that. Since TrendE got unbanned he didn't set off any kind of fishy logs anymore.
-AutismPanda, idk who he is
-We are secretive about GCheat for a reason, because publishing logs and telling what check people set off gives the cheaters/Devs a REALLY easy opportunity to just keep on cheating/creating new clients that bypass. You'd understand if you'd understand GCheat, but rip :(
-Don't worry about me not getting outside enough lol, the weather is going to be amazing this weekend.
I mentioned Stimpay because when he got banned, a lot of players questioned GCheat (I have read that thread maybe 7 times over, I know)
Gloryblade98 got banned, but the staff only noticed because he was well known that he was false banned (This isn't a criticism or anything, it seems that way to a lot of us) So we are worried other players that are randies got false banned too.
I know butterfly clicking isn't allowed and the reasons why, but honestly if you use a doubleclicker there is no difference in PvP anyway, so psh to the advantage.
I also know you make it secretive because of that, I can accept that, but it is disheartening to players when they're replied with "Denied, you were cheating" What if they had a faulty mouse that doubleclicked like TrendE and didn't know about it? Maybe some sort of indications should be shown to check this doesn't happen again (I'm sure it's happened before, even my brother had a faulty mouse before that doubleclicked a lot and he didn't know)
Cheers for the reply though
And the sun thing was because of the shitposters who wouldnt add anything else other than just that statement which annoys me
Posted on 05 May 2016 - 04:15 AM
chocs wrote
I mentioned Stimpay because when he got banned, a lot of players questioned GCheat (I have read that thread maybe 7 times over, I know)
Gloryblade98 got banned, but the staff only noticed because he was well known that he was false banned (This isn't a criticism or anything, it seems that way to a lot of us) So we are worried other players that are randies got false banned too.
I know butterfly clicking isn't allowed and the reasons why, but honestly if you use a doubleclicker there is no difference in PvP anyway, so psh to the advantage.
I also know you make it secretive because of that, I can accept that, but it is disheartening to players when they're replied with "Denied, you were cheating" What if they had a faulty mouse that doubleclicked like TrendE and didn't know about it? Maybe some sort of indications should be shown to check this doesn't happen again (I'm sure it's happened before, even my brother had a faulty mouse before that doubleclicked a lot and he didn't know)
Cheers for the reply though
And the sun thing was because of the shitposters who wouldnt add anything else other than just that statement which annoys me
Gloryblade98 got banned, but the staff only noticed because he was well known that he was false banned (This isn't a criticism or anything, it seems that way to a lot of us) So we are worried other players that are randies got false banned too.
I know butterfly clicking isn't allowed and the reasons why, but honestly if you use a doubleclicker there is no difference in PvP anyway, so psh to the advantage.
I also know you make it secretive because of that, I can accept that, but it is disheartening to players when they're replied with "Denied, you were cheating" What if they had a faulty mouse that doubleclicked like TrendE and didn't know about it? Maybe some sort of indications should be shown to check this doesn't happen again (I'm sure it's happened before, even my brother had a faulty mouse before that doubleclicked a lot and he didn't know)
Cheers for the reply though
And the sun thing was because of the shitposters who wouldnt add anything else other than just that statement which annoys me
-Well yeah, if you are famous, the chance that your ban will be looked into is higher than when you're not. So you're right on that, non-famous people have a greater chance to get banned unfairly, but it still only happens rarely. You can increase your chance to get investigated into by making an appeal with some good effort
-With doubleclicker you TRY to gain an advantage by cheating, even if it gives none. Should be bannable.
-"What if they had a faulty mouse that doubleclicked like TrendE and didn't know about it?" They can (and SHOULD!) always look into it themselves, and then there are the GCheat admins who help people with that. Again, no guarantees we get all of the 'false' bans (due to faulty mice), but we try to get as many as we can.
Posted on 05 May 2016 - 05:30 AM
Are you freaking idiotic? That's basically the same as allow cheating.Posted on 05 May 2016 - 06:42 AM
Lynkkis wrote
Are you freaking idiotic? That's basically the same as allow cheating.
bruh what
gcheat has like a hundred checks apparently
disabling just 1 allows cheating!!!!
not to mention it's a poor way to cheat, i've used doubleclick in the past and even if it's "trying to cheat" it gives you pretty much no advantage.. try it yourself on basic or something.
it was just a suggestion to reduce the amount of false bans.. You'd hardly notice the difference between a doubleclicking player/butterflyclicking player and a normal jittering player in game. (You barely notice autoclickers, it's only when they get susp hits that you'd say they were hacking. People wouldn't complain about it being removed because visually it wouldn't change anybody's way of PvP - its the triggerbotters, the reach clients that people call hacks for, and we definitely need more checks for that part)
Would you rather an anticheat that false banned 1 in say 500, or an anticheat that banned less players but you did not notice any increase in hackers etc? Badlion's community (and kohi's) would feel better and it would be back to where you didn't feel worried your mouse might pick up a fault one day or have a glitch, and you'd be instabanned without knowing what happened.
Posted on 05 May 2016 - 08:30 AM
Why can't we just freeze stimpay mid game and run that ghost client detector on him ?Posted on 06 May 2016 - 12:26 PM
LOOOOLLast edited on 06 May 2016 - 12:43 PM by H2Q
CraftyGoesMooooo wrote
chocs wrote...
He wants to fight. TONIGHT WE FIGHT TILL WE DIE. or maybe just u
Also for the autoclicker up there, I would like to say that gcheat should never ever ever ever ever never evr ever forever disable the double click check. The reason why is because there are a lot of cheaters in minecraft and in badlion as well. Despite badlion being the server with the best anti cheat, a lot of cheaters would return if the double click check is disabled. Not to mention the amount of current cheaters and ghost clienters is high already causing badlion to be a cheater exposed server like mineplex. This can end up ruin badlion and causing players to leave because of the amount of cheaters in this server. As for stimpy, he is not actually false banned. Theres' been rumors and stories regarding him. Some said he was actually paid to autoclick in badlion to ruin badlion's reputation. Some also said he was a normal undetected ghost clienter who hides his client in videos to avoid getting caught. Stimpy was indeed using something when he was banned or he was simply butterfly clicking.
Posted on 06 May 2016 - 12:43 PM
CraftyGoesMooooo wrote
chocs wrote...
Posted on 06 May 2016 - 12:46 PM
xKniqht wrote
CraftyGoesMooooo wrote...
No, I just prefer you to him. It isn't about the ign either.
Posted on 06 May 2016 - 01:00 PM
chocs wrote
xKniqht wrote...
No, I just prefer you to him. It isn't about the ign either.
Posted on 06 May 2016 - 01:03 PM
xKniqht wrote
chocs wrote...
because u dont post useless shit like this post right here
Posted on 06 May 2016 - 01:07 PM
H2Q wrote
xKniqht wrote...
because u dont post useless shit like this post right here
You should know what happend.
Posted on 06 May 2016 - 01:09 PM
xKniqht wrote
H2Q wrote...
You should know what happend.
I stopped playing for a while after the kb lagger higher kb update aka the transformation to a ping based server