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I don't like Badlions KB

SkellyBot wrote

Unshift wrote...


How is that being biased?
I'm not calling you biased although technically everyone on this forum is, since they are a community member of badlion.
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SkellyBot wrote

Unshift wrote...


How is that being biased?
we're all Badlion community members, so we should really be saying Badlion's kb is good, and everyone is saying it isn't. Shows something, if we're supposed to be tilting in favor of the badlion kb and we're not
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Unshift wrote

SkellyBot wrote...

we're all Badlion community members, so we should really be saying Badlion's kb is good, and everyone is saying it isn't. Shows something, if we're supposed to be tilting in favor of the badlion kb and we're not

I read that wrong, my bad

read it as biased not unbiased
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FunkyFactions wrote

Yea we need to switch to Kohi kb where everyone runs in a straight line and moves back 1/16th of a block after every hit, that's where real pvp is at.

Hey better than this kb where you rodspam endlessly
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FunkyFactions wrote

Yea we need to switch to Kohi kb where everyone runs in a straight line and moves back 1/16th of a block after every hit, that's where real pvp is at.


Okay, this is something that has annoyed me for a while. Of course someone who doesn't know about PotPvP would think it's all about running in a straightline and nothing else. That's even what I thought back when I didn't know anything about it. But thinking like that is complete ignorance because there is so much more to Kohi KB than straightlining. Something about the Kohi KB was very smooth, and it felt as if each combo you would get actually took skill. I used to be extremely bad at Kohi but I learned a lot of different techniques and strategies to get better. When I started to use what I learned in 1v1's, I got better over time and I was surprised that little things like wtapping could change the entire game. When you see two good players fighting against eachother, that know how to jitter, aim, wtap, etc, they're obviously going to trade hits or straightline. Why should one good player be combo'ed when that player is doing the exact same thing the other player is doing? The skill gap is extremely high on Kohi and it's because of those techniques that make people good. On Badlion, it's a bit different because the knockback tends to be more random, and a bit laggy/delayed as well. See, on Badlion I got Stimpy down to 4 pots. I can guarantee you that on Kohi (when it was a thing), he could easily 15-16 pot me.
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SirJensen wrote


Okay, this is something that has annoyed me for a while. Of course someone who doesn't know about PotPvP would think it's all about running in a straightline and nothing else. That's even what I thought back when I didn't know anything about it. But thinking like that is complete ignorance because there is so much more to Kohi KB than straightlining. Something about the Kohi KB was very smooth, and it felt as if each combo you would get actually took skill. I used to be extremely bad at Kohi but I learned a lot of different techniques and strategies to get better. When I started to use what I learned in 1v1's, I got better over time and I was surprised that little things like wtapping could change the entire game. When you see two good players fighting against eachother, that know how to jitter, aim, wtap, etc, they're obviously going to trade hits or straightline. Why should one good player be combo'ed when that player is doing the exact same thing the other player is doing? The skill gap is extremely high on Kohi and it's because of those techniques that make people good. On Badlion, it's a bit different because the knockback tends to be more random, and a bit laggy/delayed as well. See, on Badlion I got Stimpy down to 4 pots. I can guarantee you that on Kohi (when it was a thing), he could easily 15-16 pot me.

This guy knows what he is talking about
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I don't rly mind it but laggy people have a nutty advantage in sword
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HIVLIK wrote

I don't rly mind it but laggy people have a nutty advantage in sword

This right here.

"Delayed KB is the biggest f*cking advantage ever."

Am I right?
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SirJensen wrote

FunkyFactions wrote...



Okay, this is something that has annoyed me for a while. Of course someone who doesn't know about PotPvP would think it's all about running in a straightline and nothing else. That's even what I thought back when I didn't know anything about it. But thinking like that is complete ignorance because there is so much more to Kohi KB than straightlining. Something about the Kohi KB was very smooth, and it felt as if each combo you would get actually took skill. I used to be extremely bad at Kohi but I learned a lot of different techniques and strategies to get better. When I started to use what I learned in 1v1's, I got better over time and I was surprised that little things like wtapping could change the entire game. When you see two good players fighting against eachother, that know how to jitter, aim, wtap, etc, they're obviously going to trade hits or straightline. Why should one good player be combo'ed when that player is doing the exact same thing the other player is doing? The skill gap is extremely high on Kohi and it's because of those techniques that make people good. On Badlion, it's a bit different because the knockback tends to be more random, and a bit laggy/delayed as well. See, on Badlion I got Stimpy down to 4 pots. I can guarantee you that on Kohi (when it was a thing), he could easily 15-16 pot me.

This and exactly this. When you get a w-tap combo on Kohi, you know that you have executed everything perfectly. Your timings were perfect, your aim, and your movements. I have never really felt this feeling on Badlion.
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ccrraaffttyy wrote

FunkyFactions wrote...

+1
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nookaxe wrote

HIVLIK wrote...


This right here.

"Delayed KB is the biggest f*cking advantage ever."

Am I right?

It's pretty wonky to be honest
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I get pretty decent ping to badlion ~33 ms but when I fight people everryone has terrible ping and I hit them they don't fly back they hit be ~2 times and then they fly back. It so annoying
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Hurdling wrote

It's not as easy as that
Plus BL kb is good


Said nobody ever.
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SirJensen wrote

See, on Badlion I got Stimpy down to 4 pots. I can guarantee you that on Kohi (when it was a thing), he could easily 15-16 pot me.

Why does every server have to have the same kb though? Doesn't it show more skill that someone can adjust to different kb and play well on different servers, opposed to playing really good with just 1 server's kb?
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FunkyFactions wrote

SirJensen wrote...


Why does every server have to have the same kb though? Doesn't it show more skill that someone can adjust to different kb and play well on different servers, opposed to playing really good with just 1 server's kb?


That's the problem, you can not "adjust" to badlion's kb. Like I said, it's random and very laggy/delayed, thus taking away the skill involved whilst fighting with the kb.

Edit: I'm not particularly saying that you cant be good with the kb, but it's much more random and you can only be so consistent with how laggy the kb is.
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Ok maybe the KB is unpredicatable and out of this world but sometimes it can give me an advantage so that's why I said its ok
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