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Bring back badlion
Posted on 11 July 2016 - 01:19 PM
I know this is just a beta, but theres allot of problems about this beta.1. KB and Hitdetection
I Remember one of the reasons why i started Playing badlion. That reason was almost that almost everyone was equal while pvpeing, and what i mean about that, is that there werent the biggest difference between 20-50 ping, you didnt to have the best internet. Im happy that badlion staff actually have added something with the fps, by making maps more simple. Badlion s13 betas hitdetection and KB is awful, you dont have a chance if youre playing a guy with 10 ping less that you. For people that Remember s10, would know that you could get like a 5 hit combo, in season 13 you get Like 10-15 hit Combos because of the ping difference. S10 and S11 Ending and S12 start, had really nice KB and hitdetection and i think badlion developers so try to bring that back. Ive allready read 10 threads about this since the beta came out.
2. #BadlionIsNotCSGO
These new rankings are bloody dreadful. Silver 5 to Diamond 1 that is what you will try to achieve in s13. I'm gonna give 3 reasons why this shouldn't be like that.
1. We badlion players don't wanna play minecraft and CSGO at the same, I know badlion staff thought this was gonna be really cool, but it turned out not to be. We want to Minecraft PvP, CSGO combat.
2. Elo is one of the most unique systems in minecraft pvp history. If I tell the word Elo to a badlion player he would know exactly what I was talking about.
Elo is the way we rank our players here on badlion, and the smart thing about it is that we can calculate in numbers. Numbers is something we all know in and out, and you achieve your own personal number goal fx 2267 elo. We have all tried to achieve elo, and it's way easier than csgo rankings.
3. No no.1 we will never have a number 1 again, this will lower the competiveness by far. It would lower the amount of players on badlion, cause you won't be able to compete forever you can only compete until you get the highest ranking possible.
3. Maps
The maps have gotten more simple, but one thing i don't get is the glass walls, we all loved that we could be inside this little arena we were we could sit and sweat our precious elo. Idk if this is just me but the arenas are uglier with glass, and there is no fps difference. In fact I'm actually pretty sure that makes you lag more because of render distance.
4. Settings
Make a setting so you can remove the scoreboard cause that thing actually will make you lag more, and please don't the thing with the unranked matches so you have to play 20 before you can play a ranked.
Posted on 11 July 2016 - 01:21 PM
sorry if there's some places where my iPads autocorrect messed it up. Places with big letters out in nowhere.Last edited on 11 July 2016 - 01:29 PM by Vaxd
1. I personally love the kb, hit detection meh.2. I'm fine with elo or the metal rankings. There will still be a number 1
3. I get 30-50 fps more which if I played on 1.7.10 would mean i would get 80-120fps which is amazing compared to the before 30-70. I play on 1.7.2 so average 100-120fps and with the new maps get 120-170 which isn't much of a difference for me.
4. There is a setting for that already.
Posted on 11 July 2016 - 01:27 PM
There is a setting to remove the scoreboard in a matchPosted on 11 July 2016 - 01:34 PM
I wanna actually give the new ranking system a shot and only problem imo is kb for uhc or mcsg style gamemodesPosted on 11 July 2016 - 01:46 PM
Vaxd it's unfair for people with worse internet/ping, and I think the Elo is really smart.Posted on 11 July 2016 - 01:57 PM
Louiiie wrote
Vaxd it's unfair for people with worse internet/ping, and I think the Elo is really smart.
I have 120 ping, it's not that bad.
Posted on 11 July 2016 - 03:23 PM
@MasterGberry try to read this.Posted on 11 July 2016 - 05:47 PM
I'm only going to talk about your point on ratings here.1. Stupid claim, no argument.
2. Elo used to be unique a few years ago, but now it's not anymore. It's very-widely used in Minecraft now. There will be a learning curve of learning what the ranking leagues/divisions are. I'd be surprised if it's still confusing for a 8 year-old to understand the system though.
3. There won't be a number 1 on the leaderboards? Why not?
Posted on 11 July 2016 - 07:41 PM
SmellyPenguin wrote
I'm only going to talk about your point on ratings here.
1. Stupid claim, no argument.
2. Elo used to be unique a few years ago, but now it's not anymore. It's very-widely used in Minecraft now. There will be a learning curve of learning what the ranking leagues/divisions are. I'd be surprised if it's still confusing for a 8 year-old to understand the system though.
3. There won't be a number 1 on the leaderboards? Why not?
1. Stupid claim, no argument.
2. Elo used to be unique a few years ago, but now it's not anymore. It's very-widely used in Minecraft now. There will be a learning curve of learning what the ranking leagues/divisions are. I'd be surprised if it's still confusing for a 8 year-old to understand the system though.
3. There won't be a number 1 on the leaderboards? Why not?
1. My argument is that there were no reason to change kb when it was already good. Plus I don't think that you should take 2 blocks know every time you get rodded or crited, this makes it way harder floor people too pvp. And you didn't answer what I said about ping.
2. I know no other network on badlion which has the Elo system, come with some examples please. I'm 14 turning 15 1 and a half month, and I still don't understand the system, and there is a quite clear reason which is that you haven't told us shit about it. Ik badlion staff has to look down on normal players of the server, cause we aren't important.
3. Explain please.
Posted on 11 July 2016 - 07:48 PM
Louiiie wrote
SmellyPenguin wrote...
1. My argument is that there were no reason to change kb when it was already good. Plus I don't think that you should take 2 blocks know every time you get rodded or crited, this makes it way harder floor people too pvp. And you didn't answer what I said about ping.
2. I know no other network on badlion which has the Elo system, come with some examples please. I'm 14 turning 15 1 and a half month, and I still don't understand the system, and there is a quite clear reason which is that you haven't told us shit about it. Ik badlion staff has to look down on normal players of the server, cause we aren't important.
3. Explain please.
You misunderstood my post. Read the first sentence. :P
Posted on 11 July 2016 - 07:50 PM
Louiiie wrote
SmellyPenguin wrote...
1. My argument is that there were no reason to change kb when it was already good. Plus I don't think that you should take 2 blocks know every time you get rodded or crited, this makes it way harder floor people too pvp. And you didn't answer what I said about ping.
2. I know no other network on badlion which has the Elo system, come with some examples please. I'm 14 turning 15 1 and a half month, and I still don't understand the system, and there is a quite clear reason which is that you haven't told us shit about it. Ik badlion staff has to look down on normal players of the server, cause we aren't important.
3. Explain please.
Posted on 11 July 2016 - 07:57 PM
Automatically DeletedPosted on 11 July 2016 - 08:20 PM
Louiiie wrote
I know this is just a beta, but theres allot of problems about this beta.
1. KB and Hitdetection
I Remember one of the reasons why i started Playing badlion. That reason was almost that almost everyone was equal while pvpeing, and what i mean about that, is that there werent the biggest difference between 20-50 ping, you didnt to have the best internet. Im happy that badlion staff actually have added something with the fps, by making maps more simple. Badlion s13 betas hitdetection and KB is awful, you dont have a chance if youre playing a guy with 10 ping less that you. For people that Remember s10, would know that you could get like a 5 hit combo, in season 13 you get Like 10-15 hit Combos because of the ping difference. S10 and S11 Ending and S12 start, had really nice KB and hitdetection and i think badlion developers so try to bring that back. Ive allready read 10 threads about this since the beta came out.
2. #BadlionIsNotCSGO
These new rankings are bloody dreadful. Silver 5 to Diamond 1 that is what you will try to achieve in s13. I'm gonna give 3 reasons why this shouldn't be like that.
1. We badlion players don't wanna play minecraft and CSGO at the same, I know badlion staff thought this was gonna be really cool, but it turned out not to be. We want to Minecraft PvP, CSGO combat.
2. Elo is one of the most unique systems in minecraft pvp history. If I tell the word Elo to a badlion player he would know exactly what I was talking about.
Elo is the way we rank our players here on badlion, and the smart thing about it is that we can calculate in numbers. Numbers is something we all know in and out, and you achieve your own personal number goal fx 2267 elo. We have all tried to achieve elo, and it's way easier than csgo rankings.
3. No no.1 we will never have a number 1 again, this will lower the competiveness by far. It would lower the amount of players on badlion, cause you won't be able to compete forever you can only compete until you get the highest ranking possible.
3. Maps
The maps have gotten more simple, but one thing i don't get is the glass walls, we all loved that we could be inside this little arena we were we could sit and sweat our precious elo. Idk if this is just me but the arenas are uglier with glass, and there is no fps difference. In fact I'm actually pretty sure that makes you lag more because of render distance.
4. Settings
Make a setting so you can remove the scoreboard cause that thing actually will make you lag more, and please don't the thing with the unranked matches so you have to play 20 before you can play a ranked.
1. KB and Hitdetection
I Remember one of the reasons why i started Playing badlion. That reason was almost that almost everyone was equal while pvpeing, and what i mean about that, is that there werent the biggest difference between 20-50 ping, you didnt to have the best internet. Im happy that badlion staff actually have added something with the fps, by making maps more simple. Badlion s13 betas hitdetection and KB is awful, you dont have a chance if youre playing a guy with 10 ping less that you. For people that Remember s10, would know that you could get like a 5 hit combo, in season 13 you get Like 10-15 hit Combos because of the ping difference. S10 and S11 Ending and S12 start, had really nice KB and hitdetection and i think badlion developers so try to bring that back. Ive allready read 10 threads about this since the beta came out.
2. #BadlionIsNotCSGO
These new rankings are bloody dreadful. Silver 5 to Diamond 1 that is what you will try to achieve in s13. I'm gonna give 3 reasons why this shouldn't be like that.
1. We badlion players don't wanna play minecraft and CSGO at the same, I know badlion staff thought this was gonna be really cool, but it turned out not to be. We want to Minecraft PvP, CSGO combat.
2. Elo is one of the most unique systems in minecraft pvp history. If I tell the word Elo to a badlion player he would know exactly what I was talking about.
Elo is the way we rank our players here on badlion, and the smart thing about it is that we can calculate in numbers. Numbers is something we all know in and out, and you achieve your own personal number goal fx 2267 elo. We have all tried to achieve elo, and it's way easier than csgo rankings.
3. No no.1 we will never have a number 1 again, this will lower the competiveness by far. It would lower the amount of players on badlion, cause you won't be able to compete forever you can only compete until you get the highest ranking possible.
3. Maps
The maps have gotten more simple, but one thing i don't get is the glass walls, we all loved that we could be inside this little arena we were we could sit and sweat our precious elo. Idk if this is just me but the arenas are uglier with glass, and there is no fps difference. In fact I'm actually pretty sure that makes you lag more because of render distance.
4. Settings
Make a setting so you can remove the scoreboard cause that thing actually will make you lag more, and please don't the thing with the unranked matches so you have to play 20 before you can play a ranked.
1. KB is still being worked on. I think people don't understand what good KB is and what isn't good KB to be honest a lot of the time. People just expect one thing and can't understand when they are given something else which is actually better.
2. Badlion is whatever we make it. We are aiming to create a more competitive and less toxic community. 75% of the toxicity in this community is over a silly number and people cry when they lose more than 25 elo. Rather than do this we would rather hide the ratings behind a system that causes less toxicity. Every major eSport game uses this system because it creates a better community.
3. Glass walls are for texture packs primarily.
4. There already is a setting for the scoreboard. Check the options.
Posted on 11 July 2016 - 08:24 PM
Automatically DeletedPosted on 11 July 2016 - 08:42 PM
MasterGberry wrote
Louiiie wrote...
1. KB is still being worked on. I think people don't understand what good KB is and what isn't good KB to be honest a lot of the time. People just expect one thing and can't understand when they are given something else which is actually better.
2. Badlion is whatever we make it. We are aiming to create a more competitive and less toxic community. 75% of the toxicity in this community is over a silly number and people cry when they lose more than 25 elo. Rather than do this we would rather hide the ratings behind a system that causes less toxicity. Every major eSport game uses this system because it creates a better community.
3. Glass walls are for texture packs primarily.
4. There already is a setting for the scoreboard. Check the options.
Thanks for giving me and answer, but will there come a deeper explaination of the ranking system, cause I think it is highly needed.
Thank you again Gberry, you actually answered my question instead of calling me and 8 year old.
Posted on 11 July 2016 - 08:46 PM
Zaptelus wrote
WHAT? THERES A SKILL GROUP RANKING SYSTEM IN SEASON 13??? HOLY SHIT THIS HAS BEEN MY DREAM FOR MINECRAFT EVER SINCE I STARTED PLAYING CSGO!!! OMG IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS!! @SmellyPenguin dont listen to this kid keep the ranking group thing! if you guys want you can show actual elo along with the skill group ranking thing so people are still able to compare each other better.
Calm down, it's a post on a minecraft forum, I'm certainly not acting like a kid, like someone else has been doing all day across the forums.
It's an opinion and I think it is important for opinions to be heard! Which I am really happy that it did.
Posted on 11 July 2016 - 08:51 PM
Automatically DeletedPosted on 11 July 2016 - 09:10 PM
Louiiie wrote
Thanks for giving me and answer, but will there come a deeper explaination of the ranking system, cause I think it is highly needed.
Thank you again Gberry, you actually answered my question instead of calling me and 8 year old.
Archy said on stream that he's gonna make a thread about it where it will be explained