Last edited on 19 July 2016 - 05:54 PM by Zex
Kaffeu wrote
whatever they did with the code in the spigot, they made it so you slide down after the initial hit instead of bouncing back up like kohi, thats why it feels sped up.
kohi felt so much better because, after the initial hit, people bounced up instead of sliding down. this makes it so people fly up into the air and you get get nice air combos on them.
on badlion, after the first hit, they slide down and it feels like you're playing nascar or something lmao. speedy slidy pvp. so instead of getting air combos you just make people slide across the ground. people with low ping will slide across even faster and therefore take less kb.
might be hard to tell this by playing, but if you record a video and slow it down you will see it by comparing it to kohi.
this was fixed by gberry or whoever last season when he added the 1.9 knockback patch, but apparently people complained and it was reverted to the sliding knockback.
this thread right here explained it - https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/113863 | too bad it was reverted
everyone vote for BOUNCY KNOCKBACK not SLIDY KNOCKBACK
Vote here: http://www.strawpoll.me/10787417
you're just talking about vertical kb(which is good to have) lol
Posted on 19 July 2016 - 05:59 PM
One thing I noticed is that if you rod and turn they still manager to get 1-2 hits more despite you breaking their sprint and turning.Posted on 19 July 2016 - 06:05 PM
I don't really play speed ladders on badlion , but the for the non speed ladders , at least on the eu , it look like you legit have anti kb , you cant get a combo because the kb is too low , and the proof of what I say is that , there is a lot more trading hits , every match is 90% trading hits you have like a 5% to get a strafe combo and a 2% to get a rod combo and 3% to get a bow combo , its nearly immposible to play and its really not fun , it doesn't feel like badlion anymore , pls fix the kb for non speed on the eu , cause for now it looks like everyone has anti kbPosted on 19 July 2016 - 06:09 PM
iFoocus wrote
I know how are you feeling bro
Posted on 19 July 2016 - 06:09 PM
As a west player and playing on the east servers, The KB is terrible….. whenever I hit someone with a rod and nothing happens.Posted on 19 July 2016 - 06:11 PM
the kb is goodPosted on 19 July 2016 - 06:13 PM
Perfectly fine. Don't mess with it let people adapt.Posted on 19 July 2016 - 06:14 PM
The kb is shit in my opinion. It doesnt give that much kb which gives players crazy hits. Not only, is the kb bad, but the maps are stupidly big, its not necessary to have a massive map, because all players do it run and bow spam. The final thing I wanna talk about is the new elo system, I liked the old one better you could see what ranking you are and how much you gained, while as when you are on trying to get Gold 1 or something, you cant see if you are close or not. Adding all these bad perks has just made the server worse in my opinion, I feel like season 12 was way better, you should have just followed that and just taken the glitches and bugs away, which would have made it better. Its become less of a PvP server and more of a Buggy server that revolves around luck most of the time.Posted on 19 July 2016 - 06:22 PM
I haven't played too much of the Speed 2 KB so I don't have a opinion on it yet, but I dislike the KB for non speed. Reason being most of the time they hardly take any knock back for e.g there is sometimes no point in trying to rod them back as it just doesn't do enough. I had to change my whole play style for SG just because of them taking hardly any KB. As to add to this a similar thing in build it just feels like it's a wtap war. I liked season 12 KB a lot more, it just felt a lot smoother and fights would last a lot longer because of this. (FYI: EU player)Posted on 19 July 2016 - 06:23 PM
i hate it i like the old one betterPosted on 19 July 2016 - 06:24 PM
Please make it so you actually take kb, the rod does nothing as of right now and gives u a disadvantage when you use it. This kb requires no skill for any rod ladders. Just make it so there is more Kb given by sword and rod and then it should be fine again. Or just change back to season 12 its kb. But dont keep it like this, this is absolutely horrible xDPosted on 19 July 2016 - 06:25 PM
when somone uses noknockback i wouldnt notice it i hate the kbPosted on 19 July 2016 - 06:26 PM
speed 2 kb should have it where when u get someone in a combo they go up from the ground just a little bitPosted on 19 July 2016 - 06:32 PM
personally i dont like this kbPosted on 19 July 2016 - 06:32 PM
Basicly the speed 2 is way too small, whit this kb for all the players whit 60 ms its basically impossible to kill someone whit low ping like 15 or a bit above since they legit dont move at all, do more vertical knockback for better combos and let the players take knockback that is less like kohis old one, thats the reason the community was dying the kb was basically shit (well ontop of all of the other problems) the only time someone took kb is when they tured around to potLast edited on 19 July 2016 - 06:34 PM by genji1
My feedback:disclaimer I've only play Build UHC and SG on NA EAST. So I don't really know the speed II KBs.
I'm really loving/enjoying how badlion is going with s13. But let me be more clear, because i definitely think something needs to be change as they are not as good as they can be.
1. The new spawn is great, I like the big lion and the leaderboards in a different locations with the corresponding themes, they are just simply amazing! I havn't tried to attempt the parkour but I will definitely give it a go.
2. The maps (for build UHC) are excellent, most of them are good for gameplay purposes. I also like the map now has name for each of them, it just make it more clear and organize. I really like the arena walls not being colored wools and is now transparent, it feels more open and not constrained in a tiny box.
4. I also like the new ranking system. I know this is a thing people disagree on. But in the s13 patch note, mastergberry mentioned that this ranking system calculates the previous fights you've done and it decides your ranking. Elo system its just a simple algorithm that doesn't calculates your previous fights, the new ranking system in my opinion is more sophisticated and will be better.
5. The queuing system is really bad. It takes longer to put you into a fight. And It takes right too long (5 seconds) to start up. If you want to move around during that 5 seconds it tps you back. Then your hear like a noise telling you the match has started. I think its too much. I know they are trying to implement it like Kohi queuing but Kohi's its faster and it doesn't tp you back if you've trying to move around. It's not as "smooth" like Kohi's and I like to see that improves.
6. The PVP. Its quite disappointing for me. I was expecting something better than s12. But I don't know if the servers lacking performances or like the new system. But it's really laggy. And I don't find it enjoyable to fight cause i'm hesitated to get ghosted (pretty much every fights, on both sides, its basically a "who can ghost the other guy more" batter). The rod and sword just doesn't connect and its harder to rod combo. I feel like the knockback is decreased. (I don't know much about knockback so Im not gonna talk about it). Overall, it feels delayed, glitchy, not as smooth as s12 where you just hop into a fight and go, the water now joins ghosting bucket family with lava.
Overal, Badlion have done a great job at everything else (the exterior) but the pvp (the core) is not up to the expectation. I do like the new ranking system instead of the elo system (which its a basic math algorithm). Keep doing good work. I hope s13 will be a great season.
If you read this far you're a legend, sorry for any typos/grammatical error.
-BootyLooter
Last edited on 19 July 2016 - 06:36 PM by queeniesweetie
http://prntscr.com/bv01j7] This man had a great opinion on the knockback. Personally I think its fineLast edited on 19 July 2016 - 06:41 PM by xephiz
Non - speed knockback -It's terrible, rods are completely useless and it feels as if im actually playing a speed ladder. If you turn around you'll get combod, but in a head on exchange its almost always hit for hit, even if one uses a rod and one doesnt.
I genuinely love EVERYTHING on season 13 but the kb, the kb in beta is the best kb badlion has ever had, dont know why you guys messed with it :(
Just make it how beta was, it felt SO nice.
Add more vertical and horizontal kb :3333
Speed kb -
Feels gud!! Could do with more vertical kb imo
Posted on 19 July 2016 - 06:40 PM
People don't like changePosted on 19 July 2016 - 06:43 PM
what happened to "s13 pot ladders will have kohi's kb" ?