Posted on 21 July 2016 - 10:42 AM
Build UHC ladder is nothing like actual UHC fights anymore. Depending on lava in a UHC is impractical outside of timebomb/final fight. Players who use lava well on the ladder rarely use it in UHCs for this reason, and I've never seen someone whip out a second lava bucket from their inventory (not saying nobody has or does, it's just uncommon enough for me not to have seen it). Once you surface from caving it's hard to refill your buckets and use them in fights after the first- you either have to find a lava pool by chance or go down again, which has a large opportunity cost.I dislike how bucket-oriented the ladder is right now for this reason and a couple others:
- i'm bad with lava
- bucket behaviour in minecraft is inconsistent (placing on a different block, "ghost" lava, getting glitched in obsidian )
I'm not about to say that lava should be removed entirely, cos in reality it helps to be good with lava in uhcs and quickly watering yourself is a huge skill, but I do think the ladder shouldn't be as lava-centred as it is. In addition, by 100x100 I always have 3 or 4 water buckets cos of all the fire swords players have.
My proposed solution is for the kit to instead have 3 water buckets and 1 lava, as this would be a better reflection of UHC fights than the current kit. maybe then everyone would stop crying about lava spammers
who agrees/disagrees?
Posted on 21 July 2016 - 10:50 AM
1. The BuildUHC kit has to be balanced before you attempt to make it resemble something it isn't.2. So lets pretend that the Badlion Devs / Admins change the kit to resemble a final fight UHC. So lets think about how long you having full prot 2 / prot 3 sharp 4 diamonds and fire aspect iron swords and tons of healing. FOREVER!
3. Because you are bad at using lava means that nobody else should use it and it should just be removed? No. I am good with lava and rarely use it and at the end of season 12 I got 1700 elo easily WITHOUT USING LAVA.
4. ArenaPVP isn't what it used to be. It isn't practice as much as it is basicly its own gamemode. In Uhc you almost never have clean 1v1s without someone having an advantage, someone cleaning, on flat terrain ect.
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Posted on 21 July 2016 - 10:57 AM
imbat wrote
2. So lets pretend that the Badlion Devs / Admins change the kit to resemble a final fight UHC. So lets think about how long you having full prot 2 / prot 3 sharp 4 diamonds and fire aspect iron swords and tons of healing. FOREVER!
3. Because you are bad at using lava means that nobody else should use it and it should just be removed? No. I am good with lava and rarely use it and at the end of season 12 I got 1700 elo easily WITHOUT USING LAVA.
4. ArenaPVP isn't what it used to be. It isn't practice as much as it is basicly its own gamemode. In Uhc you almost never have clean 1v1s without someone having an advantage, someone cleaning, on flat terrain ect.
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2. tf how is that relevant
3. that was a joke, also why are you tryna flex over getting 1700 without lava lol
4. personally i don't think we should let arena ladders stray too far away from the gamemodes they're based on
Posted on 21 July 2016 - 11:10 AM
jonnysurvives wrote
imbat wrote...
2. tf how is that relevant
3. that was a joke, also why are you tryna flex over getting 1700 without lava lol
4. personally i don't think we should let arena ladders stray too far away from the gamemodes they're based on
1. I was stating that the BuildUHC ladder has to be balanced as a kit before try to make it resemble UHC.
2. You said that you should make it resemble end uhc fights - fights without lava. I said if you are going to change it to match a end of a UHC fight why not change everything else to match a end of a UHC. How isn't that relevant?
3. lolk
4. Once again LADDERS HAVE TO BE BALANCED BEFORE YOU MAKE THEM RESEMBLE A GAMEMODE.
Posted on 21 July 2016 - 11:15 AM
Also, I wasn't trying to "flex" about getting 1700 elo without lava. I was simply saying that you don't have to use lava to get good elo.Posted on 21 July 2016 - 11:41 AM
Lava stayPosted on 21 July 2016 - 12:06 PM
Unshift wrote
Magical words
Last edited on 21 July 2016 - 12:30 PM by ItsRegened
Disagree, the kit is fine as it is.Posted on 21 July 2016 - 03:31 PM
imbat wrote
jonnysurvives wrote...
1. I was stating that the BuildUHC ladder has to be balanced as a kit before try to make it resemble UHC.
2. You said that you should make it resemble end uhc fights - fights without lava. I said if you are going to change it to match a end of a UHC fight why not change everything else to match a end of a UHC. How isn't that relevant?
3. lolk
4. Once again LADDERS HAVE TO BE BALANCED BEFORE YOU MAKE THEM RESEMBLE A GAMEMODE.
i think it should be like a uhc fight cos that's the style of pvp it tries to emulate?? lol thotties these days
and how is 1700 good lol tf
Posted on 21 July 2016 - 03:45 PM
just saying 1700 build is pretty shitPosted on 22 July 2016 - 02:25 AM
Synraey wrote
i didnt say it wasnt.
Posted on 22 July 2016 - 08:02 AM
imbat wrote
Synraey wrote...
i didnt say it wasnt.
imbat wrote
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Posted on 22 July 2016 - 10:30 AM
3 water buckets 1 lava? That's so stupidLast edited on 22 July 2016 - 10:59 AM by WarmColedavid1
Once I saw "I'm bad with lava" I understood that you are probably one of the people who complain about others lava spamming. I think the kit is fine how it is and doesn't really need any improvements.P.S. I mean, if the kit was really realistic you would probably have around 2-3 stacks of arrows, and A LOT more healing. I think that would make many people upset.
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Posted on 22 July 2016 - 11:18 AM
BenBdaMan wrote
P.S. I mean, if the kit was really realistic you would probably have around 2-3 stacks of arrows, and A LOT more healing. I think that would make many people upset.
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Posted on 22 July 2016 - 11:25 AM
The kit is fine as it is.-1
Posted on 22 July 2016 - 11:56 AM
BenBdaMan wrote
P.S. I mean, if the kit was really realistic you would probably have around 2-3 stacks of arrows, and A LOT more healing. I think that would make many people upset.
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Posted on 22 July 2016 - 02:00 PM
BenBdaMan wrote
P.S. I mean, if the kit was really realistic you would probably have around 2-3 stacks of arrows, and A LOT more healing. I think that would make many people upset.
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MeMyselfAndCube wrote
BenBdaMan wrote...
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Posted on 22 July 2016 - 02:02 PM
@Gamer_Bepis_666you have 0 logic, you said "lil bitch that was a joke" when someone pointed out that other items would be different in a real UHC, yet you use that as an argument…
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Last edited on 22 July 2016 - 02:06 PM by Gamer_Bepis_666
im done people on this forum are honestly retarded never posting anything vaguely discussional againfair enough @ the people just saying 'i like the kit how it is' cos that's a valid reason but some of the arguments people are trying to make are literally some of the most aggravatingly ill-thought-out shit i've ever read