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Yeah I was one of the biggest supporters of this season. But now that I'm actually playing it I wish I wasn't; the knockback is actually pretty bad. I always wanted to side with Badlion and support it, but if it were to fail me I'd lose all hope. Yes, I know the devs put so much time and effort into making the knockback perfect, but when "perfect" is fighting someone and neither of you are taking any knockback then it seems a little broken. I know some top players did test the knockback but I really hate it, and I'm pretty sure everyone who gave a good opinion of it had ~50ms or below. I hate to say ping affects knockback, but it does… it makes you take it faster. And when faster means taking miniscule amounts faster, then yeah, it's pretty broken. Matchmaking - I keep getting paired with Emeralds, which should be happening, but either I'm just shit or the leaderboards didn't lie to me. I've played a grand total of two ranked matches after getting out of the qualifying matches, and guess what. I've won once and I've lost once. I gained 13, lost 11. I shouldn't have gained nor lost; the way you described it before was about streaks - I haven't had a positive or negative streak yet. For now I'm just going to treat the system like modified ELO, because that's exactly what it is and everyone knows it.


A tweet from none other than the main influence in kb testing, Danteh, said: @BadlionNetwork lol @ all the shitters sayin there's no kb, mayb if they knew how to w tap or blockhit they would b able to make people move


I blockhit a shit ton. As described earlier me and the other person were blockhitting within a block of each other. Again, both of us were taking almost 0 kb, and w-tapping is a thing I'm working on.


I still support Badlion and its decisions, but this knockback and rating system aren't the greatest. In beta the knockback was smoother than a freshly paved road. Now it's like the road in Cars after Lightning McQueen tore up the road with a statue (I think it's a statue from what I remember LOL). I know that the devs are on it, but for right now, I'd say just revert the kb to what it was in the beta, or even just plain vanilla. I don't see what's wrong with vanilla knockback, it helps catch people using modifiers pretty easily.
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-1 to beta kb there was too much. I've been on vacation so I haven't played with the new kb for a while but if it is a little low then a nice middle wouldn't hurt. I remember w tapping working way better than block hits so try w tapping.
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Dear Badlion, I was playing on my alt about 2 weeks ago and I got glitched on a block while playing BuildUHC. I thought if I were to quickly logout I would be able to take away the glitch. When I reloged I was glitched in mid air and I couldnt move. Right about after, GCheat thought I was hacking and perm banned me. I honestly claim I was not hacking. I would never hack on Badlion because of the great community and the awesome pvp. My alt was DarkKnight5476.


If you get a chance to respond I would really advice you to look at that glitch and please support me and unban me.

Keep up the great work badlion!!
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BlueJewell wrote

Yeah I was one of the biggest supporters of this season. But now that I'm actually playing it I wish I wasn't; the knockback is actually pretty bad. I always wanted to side with Badlion and support it, but if it were to fail me I'd lose all hope. Yes, I know the devs put so much time and effort into making the knockback perfect, but when "perfect" is fighting someone and neither of you are taking any knockback then it seems a little broken. I know some top players did test the knockback but I really hate it, and I'm pretty sure everyone who gave a good opinion of it had ~50ms or below. I hate to say ping affects knockback, but it does… it makes you take it faster. And when faster means taking miniscule amounts faster, then yeah, it's pretty broken. Matchmaking - I keep getting paired with Emeralds, which should be happening, but either I'm just shit or the leaderboards didn't lie to me. I've played a grand total of two ranked matches after getting out of the qualifying matches, and guess what. I've won once and I've lost once. I gained 13, lost 11. I shouldn't have gained nor lost; the way you described it before was about streaks - I haven't had a positive or negative streak yet. For now I'm just going to treat the system like modified ELO, because that's exactly what it is and everyone knows it.


A tweet from none other than the main influence in kb testing, Danteh, said: @BadlionNetwork lol @ all the shitters sayin there's no kb, mayb if they knew how to w tap or blockhit they would b able to make people move


I blockhit a shit ton. As described earlier me and the other person were blockhitting within a block of each other. Again, both of us were taking almost 0 kb, and w-tapping is a thing I'm working on.


I still support Badlion and its decisions, but this knockback and rating system aren't the greatest. In beta the knockback was smoother than a freshly paved road. Now it's like the road in Cars after Lightning McQueen tore up the road with a statue (I think it's a statue from what I remember LOL). I know that the devs are on it, but for right now, I'd say just revert the kb to what it was in the beta, or even just plain vanilla. I don't see what's wrong with vanilla knockback, it helps catch people using modifiers pretty easily.


I agree with you and the kb part, but I pm'ed Gberry earlier and he said they would be pushing out some changes to the kb, and that it should be live in a couple of hours across all of the networks.
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Noob_5476 wrote

Dear Badlion, I was playing on my alt about 2 weeks ago and I got glitched on a block while playing BuildUHC. I thought if I were to quickly logout I would be able to take away the glitch. When I reloged I was glitched in mid air and I couldnt move. Right about after, GCheat thought I was hacking and perm banned me. I honestly claim I was not hacking. I would never hack on Badlion because of the great community and the awesome pvp. My alt was DarkKnight5476.



If you get a chance to respond I would really advice you to look at that glitch and please support me and unban me.


Keep up the great work badlion!!



Erm this is not the place for appeals.
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Bain_ wrote

-1 to beta kb there was too much. I've been on vacation so I haven't played with the new kb for a while but if it is a little low then a nice middle wouldn't hurt. I remember w tapping working way better than block hits so try w tapping.


Bain_ why have you then being criticizing my posts about the KB when you have been on vacation?
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Because he has the right to give an opinion. Being a better player, he probably understands more about knockback than you do.
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xXEnderDudezOP wrote

Because he has the right to give an opinion. Being a better player, he probably understands more about knockback than you do.
That's stupid, just because he's better his opinion matters more? If Danteh were to say make it so there's no kb, would you listen to him?
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xXEnderDudezOP wrote

Because he has the right to give an opinion. Being a better player, he probably understands more about knockback than you do.


First off all nice ign, second I'm a way better player than Bain, 3rd I peaked at 2.4 last season, 4th your just trash.
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Mapfal wrote

xXEnderDudezOP wrote...

That's stupid, just because he's better his opinion matters more? If Danteh were to say make it so there's no kb, would you listen to him?


Never said Bain's opinion mattered more, you simply inferred that.
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xXEnderDudezOP wrote

Mapfal wrote...



Never said Bain's opinion mattered more, you simply inferred that.
My bad.
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Mapfal wrote

xXEnderDudezOP wrote...

My bad.


It's fine.
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xXEnderDudezOP wrote

Because he has the right to give an opinion. Being a better player, he probably understands more about knockback than you do.
yeah, but apparently he was on vacation so what does he know right now?
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Louiie wrote

Bain_ wrote...



Bain_ why have you then being criticizing my posts about the KB when you have been on vacation?
I'm just going by what it was before I left so srry I guess
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Bain_ wrote

Louiie wrote...

I'm just going by what it was before I left so srry I guess


Its ok.
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I have 70 ping and I quite like the kb.
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