Posted on 09 August 2016 - 05:06 AM
Both require different skills/techniques, I'd say both come with their easy aspects and their hard aspects. Although, I do feel Pot takes some more skill to be good at.Posted on 09 August 2016 - 06:10 AM
Now that I think about it, skill isn't really measured in how you click, aim, or play the game. Yeah 1v1s are all about that but in UHCs and Factions, it's more. You have to be able to learn how to react to what's around you. It's like fighting in real life. You learn how to punch, kick, use a gun and overall fight by practicing. The skill in fighting IMO is when you actually have to fight someone or go on a mission that involves combat. Same with MC. How do you survive at 0,0 when there's 10 people nearby, or how do you gain an advantage in an equal 30v30 factions fight? It all boils down to how you assess the situation and make the best of it. That's what I see as "skill".
To answer your question, it doesn't really matter if it's Pot or UHCs. To follow with the analogy above, it's about learning Boxing vs Chinese Martial Arts. Yeah the techniques may be different but how you move can be compared closely.
But yeah, it's pot. UHCs involve way, way too many secondaries when compared to Pot.
Posted on 09 August 2016 - 08:23 AM
Both of them are different things.To boil off. Lets check the skills required for UHC.
- CPS
- Aim
- Strafe
- Bucket
- Bow
- Ping (Factor.)
Oh thats alot, How about pot?
- Aim
- Strafe
- CPS
So in total UHC has more skills. BUT Pot focuses on the 3 core pvp mechanics. Aim, Strafe and CPS.
So that means Pot requires more intense and fast paced thinking, aiming and strafing. But UHC has more skills/versatile. So wouldn't UHC require more skill?
Wrong. Pot is really fast paced and a few misclicks can end your game.
So in all UHC is more diverse and loads more playing styles, Therefore its easier.
And Pot is more fast paced, simple pvp.
Posted on 09 August 2016 - 10:53 AM
Imo, pot requires more skill. If you mis throw your pot, your screwed. With UHC its anyone's game. It doesn't require that much skill because anyone can start bad then all of a sudden get a great combo and win the fight.Posted on 09 August 2016 - 11:28 AM
Minion_Does_MC wrote
misthrowing pots is always the pros biggest issues
Posted on 09 August 2016 - 11:44 AM
The top players in Pot are always beating each other and it's filled with cheaters.I'd say UHC.
Posted on 09 August 2016 - 12:02 PM
____Legend___ wrote
I'd say UHC.
Posted on 12 August 2016 - 11:18 AM
Let's make a little comparison.Basic PvP Skills (Required for every gamemode)
-Aim
-Click (You don't need high CPS)
-Basic Movement Skills
Skills that overlap for UHC and Pot:
Posted on 12 August 2016 - 11:18 AM
Overall, I think CS:GO requires more skill.Last edited on 12 August 2016 - 05:06 PM by goblizz
Pot has always been more challenging for me due to the length; it requires (arguably) more endurance to keep a consistent click speed and accuracy for 3-7 minutes.But that's not to say UHC isn't challenging due to the water/lava, rod, and bow…
Last edited on 12 August 2016 - 05:31 PM by FightingCloud
Which one is more difficult differs from person to person. I'm going to list the skills most good players have, then analyse them. Forgive me if I forget some.Essential skills required for UHC:
- Rod,
Lava,
Blocks,
Conservation of Gaps,
Bow 1v1 related skills,
Sword related skills (aim, w tap timing, etc)
Besides Bow and Sword, all of the things listed are extremely easy to learn. Learning how to rod well only takes a week or so, same goes for almost everything else in that list. However, Build UHC is about using them all together at the same time, which can be extremely hard and confusing for some people.
Essential skills required for Potion:
- Sword related skills (aim, timing, etc),
Potion Conservation,
Pearls,
Potion is considerably more simple, but these few techniques have been taken to an incredible level, to the point where the mechanical skill required to be a top level potion player is through the roof. Some people find potion pvp harder because of this demand for extremely high mechanical skill.
Last edited on 12 August 2016 - 05:41 PM by Emendings
ThatOneCombo wrote
What the fuck are you talking about? Potion PVP is amazing, requires aim and clicks, UHC is very fun, but just needs decent aims, decent clicks, Rod and bow
Potion you need to learn to click very fast, and amazing aim which makes you way better at pvp
Last edited on 12 August 2016 - 05:48 PM by ThatOneCombo
Emendings wrote
ThatOneCombo wrote...
What the fuck are you talking about? Potion PVP is amazing, requires aim and clicks, UHC is very fun, but just needs decent aims, decent clicks, Rod and bow
Potion you need to learn to click very fast, and amazing aim which makes you way better at pvp
notice the "imo"? and i stand by the 1 dimensional part because it is true
Posted on 12 August 2016 - 05:49 PM
15ober wrote
To boil off. Lets check the skills required for UHC.
- CPS
- Aim
- Strafe
- Bucket
- Bow
- Ping (Factor.)
Oh thats alot, How about pot?
- Aim
- Strafe
- CPS
So in total UHC has more skills. BUT Pot focuses on the 3 core pvp mechanics. Aim, Strafe and CPS.
So that means Pot requires more intense and fast paced thinking, aiming and strafing. But UHC has more skills/versatile. So wouldn't UHC require more skill?
Wrong. Pot is really fast paced and a few misclicks can end your game.
So in all UHC is more diverse and loads more playing styles, Therefore its easier.
And Pot is more fast paced, simple pvp.
Basically this ^
Not to mention that when a UHCer goes from UHC to PotPvP, he gets destroyed instantly and stands no chance. When a PotPvPer goes from PotPvP to UHC, he can quickly adapt to the new style while still being good at Pot. Take a look at Stimpy, TewChaynz, and even Drummer for example (I'm only using these 3 because they're the most known, there are a lot of Pot PvPers including myself who have adapted to UHC easily while coming from Pot PvP) - they only played UHC for a good day or 2 and have already won games and beaten others. Pot PvP involves fast-paced thinking and coming up with strategies on the spot. Like strafing for example, with the Speed II buff everything is much more fast-paced and you have to think about what you're going to do even faster before the opponent catches up to you. In UHC you can just rod spam the shit out of your opponent while you think, literally taking no skill. And the person I quoted explained perfectly why Pot requires more skill.
Posted on 12 August 2016 - 05:52 PM
Yea wrote
15ober wrote...
Basically this ^
Not to mention that when a UHCer goes from UHC to PotPvP, he gets destroyed instantly and stands no chance. When a PotPvPer goes from PotPvP to UHC, he can quickly adapt to the new style while still being good at Pot. Take a look at Stimpy, TewChaynz, and even Drummer for example (I'm only using these 3 because they're the most known, there are a lot of Pot PvPers including myself who have adapted to UHC easily while coming from Pot PvP) - they only played UHC for a good day or 2 and have already won games and beaten others. Pot PvP involves fast-paced thinking and coming up with strategies on the spot. Like strafing for example, with the Speed II buff everything is much more fast-paced and you have to think about what you're going to do even faster before the opponent catches up to you. In UHC you can just rod spam the shit out of your opponent while you think, literally taking no skill. And the person I quoted explained perfectly why Pot requires more skill.
You're saying pot requires more strategy than uhc?? @yea
Posted on 12 August 2016 - 06:17 PM
ThatOneCombo wrote
In terms of tactical movements yes.
Posted on 12 August 2016 - 06:22 PM
Yea wrote
15ober wrote...
Basically this ^
Not to mention that when a UHCer goes from UHC to PotPvP, he gets destroyed instantly and stands no chance. When a PotPvPer goes from PotPvP to UHC, he can quickly adapt to the new style while still being good at Pot. Take a look at Stimpy, TewChaynz, and even Drummer for example (I'm only using these 3 because they're the most known, there are a lot of Pot PvPers including myself who have adapted to UHC easily while coming from Pot PvP) - they only played UHC for a good day or 2 and have already won games and beaten others. Pot PvP involves fast-paced thinking and coming up with strategies on the spot. Like strafing for example, with the Speed II buff everything is much more fast-paced and you have to think about what you're going to do even faster before the opponent catches up to you. In UHC you can just rod spam the shit out of your opponent while you think, literally taking no skill. And the person I quoted explained perfectly why Pot requires more skill.
Posted on 12 August 2016 - 06:48 PM
Well it depends your view on the kits pot is obviously more complex if you know all the different points that go into it like maintaining constant aim throughout the fight while w tapping managing pots agro pearling strafing is question harder in pot but if a player doesn't look at that as he isn't much into it uhc is mainly spamming the rod then placing a lava and I guess watering along with healing imo pot takes the most skill followed by bow as all it is, is aiming and dodging and I guess arrow dropping but I can't tak as I couldn't get over 1950 archer last season but that's just my opinion.