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Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton?
+1 vote for Hillary hahahahahahahahaha
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Hexus wrote

Pleepo wrote...


It's not because they destroyed Hitler that it means they are good. How does that make a murdering tyrant who kills another murdering tyrant a good person?
The difference is that Hitler killed ethnic groups and Stalin etc made political murders happen.
If you don't know that they were tyrants and bad people then you don't know a lot. The Soviet Secret police also killed a lot of innocent people to create terror. Of course they can't be compared to Hitler, but they still are responsible for thousands of innocent deaths. Why do you think they weren't tyrannical in any way?


Stop. Why did you include Trotsky and Lenin? Think about it. You've heard of their names obviously but you really don't know what you're talking about and I can tell from what you're saying. Go look into Trotsky and Lenin and if you wish then you can come back to me and call them tyrants. Just because in America they don't like Communists doesn't mean you don't have to research it before you dismiss the USSR as a totally bad thing. Understand that I'm being patient with you.
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Pleepo wrote

Stop. Why did you include Trotsky and Lenin? Think about it. You've heard of their names obviously but you really don't know what you're talking about and I can tell from what you're saying. Go look into Trotsky and Lenin and if you wish then you can come back to me and call them tyrants. Just because in America they don't like Communists doesn't mean you don't have to research it before you dismiss the USSR as a totally bad thing. Understand that I'm being patient with you.
i have no idea wtf you just said :D
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Metarus wrote

Pleepo wrote...

i have no idea wtf you just said :D

Lol I just want the guy to actually research the USSR especially Trotsky and Lenin before he calls them Tyrannical. Seems a bit weird because anyone who has spent 20mins reading a book on the topic wouldn't make that mistake lol.
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If I could vote I would kill myself
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When was the last time we had a president that the majority of people liked. I'm guessing atleast 30-50 years before I was born.
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BeFour6 wrote

When was the last time we had a president that the majority of people liked. I'm guessing atleast 30-50 years before I was born.

Right now. Obama had a 54% approval rating in the most recent Gallup poll taken from the Oct. 24-30. He has consistently had good approval ratings, reaching over 2/3 approval at times.
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Pleepo wrote


Stop. Why did you include Trotsky and Lenin? Think about it. You've heard of their names obviously but you really don't know what you're talking about and I can tell from what you're saying. Go look into Trotsky and Lenin and if you wish then you can come back to me and call them tyrants. Just because in America they don't like Communists doesn't mean you don't have to research it before you dismiss the USSR as a totally bad thing. Understand that I'm being patient with you.



+1 Most people in America are clueless about the USSR because of American propaganda that is taught in schools when covering the subject
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Metarus wrote

Trump said that Hillary literally founded ISIS. Not figuratively, not that she influenced it, but that she literally founded ISIS. He just makes such idiotic statements.


But she did? Her + Obama's globalist policy created the power vacuum in the Middle East and supported rebels that led to the creation of ISIS
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SmellyPenguin wrote

Metarus wrote...



But she did? Her + Obama's globalist policy created the power vacuum in the Middle East and supported rebels that led to the creation of ISIS
That would be at cause of something, which is understandable. However, when he was asked if that's what he meant, he replied; "No, I mean she founded ISIS." He was given a perfect chance to redeem himself from the hole he dug himself into, yet he didn't.
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Pleepo wrote

Hexus wrote...



Stop. Why did you include Trotsky and Lenin? Think about it. You've heard of their names obviously but you really don't know what you're talking about and I can tell from what you're saying. Go look into Trotsky and Lenin and if you wish then you can come back to me and call them tyrants. Just because in America they don't like Communists doesn't mean you don't have to research it before you dismiss the USSR as a totally bad thing. Understand that I'm being patient with you.

I'm not American and I occasionally watch a documentary about the war and recently watched one about the bolsheviks.
It's funny that you think I've only heard their names because I'm actually very interested in the topic and I read/watch things about it like I said.
I just said Lenin, Trotsky (should've said Stalin aswell) because they jail/kill rivale politicians (like Donald Trump said he would do)
I know Americans don't like communism and that communist parties are forbidden.
Of course there are good sides about communism, but in reality everyone is just as poor (except for all the politicians with their luxury villa at the Krim).
The bolsheviks used terror to come to power. Communism means NO freedom. (Families cut in two because of the Berlin wall for instance)
I think you're the one that doesn't know a lot about the topic because all you say is: 'go do some research, USSR is good! They stopped Hitler'.
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Pleepo wrote

Metarus wrote...


Lol I just want the guy to actually research the USSR especially Trotsky and Lenin before he calls them Tyrannical. Seems a bit weird because anyone who has spent 20mins reading a book on the topic wouldn't make that mistake lol.

I spent more than 20 minutes on the subject and @SmellyPenguin I'm basing my opinion on unbiased sources
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Metarus wrote

SmellyPenguin wrote...

That would be at cause of something, which is understandable. However, when he was asked if that's what he meant, he replied; "No, I mean she founded ISIS." He was given a perfect chance to redeem himself from the hole he dug himself into, yet he didn't.


Should have used another comma to start that quote rather than a semicolon.
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Hexus wrote


I'm not American and I occasionally watch a documentary about the war and recently watched one about the bolsheviks.
It's funny that you think I've only heard their names because I'm actually very interested in the topic and I read/watch things about it like I said. Okay
I just said Lenin, Trotsky (should've said Stalin aswell) because they jail/kill rivale politicians (like Donald Trump said he would do)
I know Americans don't like communism and that communist parties are forbidden.
Of course there are good sides about communism, but in reality everyone is just as poor (except for all the politicians with their luxury villa at the Krim). False if you actually speak to people from countries in the former USSR you will be told about how there poverty was eradicated and it only made the upper classes sad as they could no longer exploit people
The bolsheviks used terror to come to power.False. The October Revolution was largely free of bloodshed. (It even says this on Wikipedia)
Communism means NO freedom. Communism means no freedom to exploit lol
(Families cut in two because of the Berlin wall for instance) You cannot be implying that the Berlin wall was the main obstroction to freedom under the whole of communism. Honestly. The Berlin wall was down to the USA and USSR not agreeing on policy.

I think you're the one that doesn't know a lot about the topic because all you say is: 'go do some research, USSR is good! They stopped Hitler'. I wont respond to this.
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They're both really flawed candidates. However, I think Trump should win this election. He's incredibly biased, offensive and slightly racist, but compared to Hillary, who is a criminal (if she wasn't running for president she would be in jail right now), a sneak and someone who will not fulfil their promises to America, Trump should be the one winning.
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Trump's supporters mirror him exactly.
Trump has nothing to brag of except for his broken business and a few billion dollars in the bank
Hillary has done everything for people in her past, she's been fighting for people and women her entire life.
So, Trump, with nothing to praise himself of, has to trash talk people instead to gain support and votes. The only way he's even relevant is because of the excellent and uncensored way he points out people's flaws. So do his supporters.
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Unshift wrote

Trump's supporters mirror him exactly.
Trump has nothing to brag of except for his broken business and a few billion dollars in the bank
Hillary has done everything for people in her past, she's been fighting for people and women her entire life.
So, Trump, with nothing to praise himself of, has to trash talk people instead to gain support and votes. The only way he's even relevant is because of the excellent and uncensored way he points out people's flaws. So do his supporters.


LOL.

Walking media outlet right here.

Hillary's a perfect candidate–no flaws in her past. She's been fighting for people for thirty years! Not for herself! We need a woman in the White House–not an outsider to fight the corruption in the government (which Hillary will obviously do, because she's not corrupt herself).
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Pleepo wrote

Hexus wrote...


The Berlin wall was after an agreement between USA and USSR, not a disagreement. It was to split communistic and capitalistic Europe. It's so ignorant to say that all upperclass people exploit people. It's almost like having worked hard in the past is a sin and then get it all taken away from you. The october revolution isn't the only thing the USSR has done, pffft.
Of course communism is a beautiful idea but it doesn't work and it will never work, what you said about 'no freedom to exploit' is absolute nonsense. There's a lot of freedom you didn't have in the Soviet system which are viewed as normal and which almost nobody exploits. If you really want a system where there was no freedom to exploit then everybody would have NO freedom because almost anything van technically be exploited.
Not to mention communism disencourages hard work.
In your USSR system none of the politician lived in an ugly appartment like all the other 'equal' people. Communism means everyone is as poor as everyone else because that's how the world works.
You said almost all people in an old Soviet system said that hunger and poverty was solved but food is not everything in life. , , …

Oops: edit
They obviously didn't like communism, the Prague Spring, the fall of the Berlin wall…
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LordBowser wrote

Unshift wrote...



LOL.

Walking media outlet right here.

Hillary's a perfect candidate–no flaws in her past. She's been fighting for people for thirty years! Not for herself! We need a woman in the White House–not an outsider to fight the corruption in the government (which Hillary will obviously do, because she's not corrupt herself).
this is precisely what I meant, whenever it comes to defending Trump his supporters trash talk the opposition
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https://twitter.com/LateNightSeth/status/793982502008397825
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