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Can you NA guys start a socialist uprising or something
Posted on 13 September 2016 - 12:00 PM
Trump and Hillary affects the whole world and they're both shit. Please not everything has to be done through democracy.Just form a militia and seize the means of production pls and thank you. :)
Posted on 13 September 2016 - 12:20 PM
No.Posted on 13 September 2016 - 06:27 PM
Pleepo wrote
Trump and Hillary affects the whole world and they're both shit. Please not everything has to be done through democracy.
Just form a militia and seize the means of production pls and thank you. :)
Just form a militia and seize the means of production pls and thank you. :)
how can you form a militia when you want to seize U.S citizens' firearms and their 2nd Amendment rights as well?
Posted on 13 September 2016 - 06:39 PM
cringiecake wrote
Pleepo wrote...
how can you form a militia when you want to seize U.S citizens' firearms and their 2nd Amendment rights as well?
I said nothing about firearms, I'm talking about industry….
Posted on 13 September 2016 - 06:45 PM
Pleepo wrote
cringiecake wrote...
I said nothing about firearms, I'm talking about industry….
this is socialism you're talking about, yes?
Posted on 13 September 2016 - 08:16 PM
We had our champion in Bernie, but he bowed down to the capitalist pigs.Posted on 13 September 2016 - 08:18 PM
gary johnson for presidentPosted on 13 September 2016 - 09:32 PM
Mr_Bloxley wrote
gary johnson for president
Posted on 13 September 2016 - 09:41 PM
I hope Hillary doesn't get seriously sick, but…. if she does can we have Bernie back?Posted on 13 September 2016 - 10:00 PM
DJPano wrote
We had our champion in Bernie, but he bowed down to the capitalist pigs.
Bernie Sanders was for the majority…not the rich, fat, and crazy people already in charge. Honestly after Obama's past few months I would rather have him over Trump or Hillary. I don't understand Donald Trump, how can someone have the audacity to LITERALLY KICK A WOMAN OUT OF HIS RALLY FOR HER BABY CRYING. If I was her I would be mortified. In my opinion if he really wanted the baby and woman gone he should have called someone over (security) and asked them to remove her not publicly embarrass her to thousands. People call me crazy when I say I dislike Trump, for example my teacher, we had a hour argument about something similar to this. These are her exact words "Bernie is crazy, he wants to make college more available, and help people who don't have a job. Before I start another rant remember that I believe you should have to work in life to get what you desire, but you should be able to have a place to sleep either way. How are people supposed to get a job if they
1. aren't clean
2. don't have proper clothes to apply for a job
3. a way to get there everyday
4. and most importantly a place to sleep. if you can't sleep properly you can't work properly.
Now back to Donald Trump. He is basically a terrorist because he said this "When you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families."
TERRORISM IS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AND THIS IS WHAT THIS CRAZY MAN WANTS TO DO!
Okay, now time for Hillary. I don't have too much against her except that I don't agree with her policies, think half of what she says sounds retarded, and she beat Bernie.
Posted on 14 September 2016 - 12:03 AM
imbat wrote
DJPano wrote...
Bernie Sanders was for the majority…not the rich, fat, and crazy people already in charge. Honestly after Obama's past few months I would rather have him over Trump or Hillary. I don't understand Donald Trump, how can someone have the audacity to LITERALLY KICK A WOMAN OUT OF HIS RALLY FOR HER BABY CRYING. If I was her I would be mortified. In my opinion if he really wanted the baby and woman gone he should have called someone over (security) and asked them to remove her not publicly embarrass her to thousands. People call me crazy when I say I dislike Trump, for example my teacher, we had a hour argument about something similar to this. These are her exact words "Bernie is crazy, he wants to make college more available, and help people who don't have a job. Before I start another rant remember that I believe you should have to work in life to get what you desire, but you should be able to have a place to sleep either way. How are people supposed to get a job if they
1. aren't clean
2. don't have proper clothes to apply for a job
3. a way to get there everyday
4. and most importantly a place to sleep. if you can't sleep properly you can't work properly.
Now back to Donald Trump. He is basically a terrorist because he said this "When you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families."
TERRORISM IS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AND THIS IS WHAT THIS CRAZY MAN WANTS TO DO!
Okay, now time for Hillary. I don't have too much against her except that I don't agree with her policies, think half of what she says sounds retarded, and she beat Bernie.
Accurate af. Hillary is sketchy because of her own private server, which honestly should've kicked her out of the race. Trump? I'm not even gonna say anything.
I'd honestly like to have Obama back.
Last edited on 14 September 2016 - 02:58 AM by RegalRat
imbat wrote
DJPano wrote...
Bernie Sanders was for the majority…not the rich, fat, and crazy people already in charge. Honestly after Obama's past few months I would rather have him over Trump or Hillary. I don't understand Donald Trump, how can someone have the audacity to LITERALLY KICK A WOMAN OUT OF HIS RALLY FOR HER BABY CRYING. If I was her I would be mortified. In my opinion if he really wanted the baby and woman gone he should have called someone over (security) and asked them to remove her not publicly embarrass her to thousands. People call me crazy when I say I dislike Trump, for example my teacher, we had a hour argument about something similar to this. These are her exact words "Bernie is crazy, he wants to make college more available, and help people who don't have a job. Before I start another rant remember that I believe you should have to work in life to get what you desire, but you should be able to have a place to sleep either way. How are people supposed to get a job if they
1. aren't clean
2. don't have proper clothes to apply for a job
3. a way to get there everyday
4. and most importantly a place to sleep. if you can't sleep properly you can't work properly.
Now back to Donald Trump. He is basically a terrorist because he said this "When you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families."
TERRORISM IS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AND THIS IS WHAT THIS CRAZY MAN WANTS TO DO!
Okay, now time for Hillary. I don't have too much against her except that I don't agree with her policies, think half of what she says sounds retarded, and she beat Bernie.
Where do I begin?
Let's start with the fact that Trump didn't actually kick that woman out of his rally. The one-sided liberal media made it seem that way, and quite frankly, when you watch the video, it does seem that way. However, in reality, several sources (I think the Trump campaign, too) have said that Trump was joking with the woman, and that by the time he made the remark that the baby should get out, the woman, out of courtesy, left the arena.
Trump may be mean and harsh at times, but kicking out a baby? Give me a break.
Bernie's plans always sounded really great on the surface. I mean, who wouldn't want free college and free this and free that? As an individual myself in higher education, I'd love if it were all free! However, that's just not going to work out in the United States without major tax increases and higher government expenditures. Our country is in enough debt as it is, and if we're going to pile on new social programs left in right, we're not going to ever get out of it unless we're all taxed out of house and home.
And before you say, it works in places like Sweden! The United States has 35 times as many people as Sweden; the United States is much larger; and there is a much greater variety of culture (Deep South versus Northeast, plains versus coasts, etc.). Taxing the hell out of everyone in order to bring the lower class up sounds good, but when you start implementing so many regulations and revenue plans on small businesses, especially, you're not going to help the economy much. A big overbearing government controlling every facet of the economy and strangling small businesses to the point that the state is the only supplier… hm… sounds familiar…
Raising the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour is very risky. Sure, the people who are in those positions have a decent living now, but what about the employer? Do you really think they're going to want to pay a fry cook at McDonald's fifteen dollars an hour to flip burgers? Labor costs money, and you're just going to cause businesses to close down and to cut back on employees. Have you ever wondered why American companies flock to foreign lands to make products? Americans want too much money for their labor. We aren't competitive in labor when we demand so much as a minimum wage. Other places get paid dirt cheap for their labor. There's definitely a trade-off.
Yes, Obama's approval ratings are relatively good lately. However, he's a lame duck at the moment and practically can get nothing done without making an executive order because Congress is controlled by Republicans now. Bipartisanship has gotten rarer since Obama's taken office. Obama's had some blunders, too. Obamacare sparked a lot of contention in government, and in general, it is viewed pretty poorly by most people (except for those who use it–sometimes). Obama's two terms are up, and a lot of people want change. Hillary won't give it–she'd be Obama's third (and God forbid fourth) term.
That's part of Trump's appeal: he's an agent of change. His policies are in stark contrast to the current administration, and many people feel that they've been stagnated in Obama's administration. So many look to Trump for hope. That very "agent of change" and "hope" idea was one of the principal campaigning devices during Obama's 2008 run. It works well. And even though Trump is highly out of the ordinary, this is a driving force of his campaign as well.
Trump's rhetoric is very strongman-like. He's coming out as the tough guy who's going to crack down on ISIS and our enemies and "make America great again." Often times, a candidate's extreme rhetoric like this is just rhetoric. Openly killing innocent people (regardless of their affiliation), I believe, violates international law, so it's most likely just rhetoric. People tend to forget just how little direct power a president really has. Checks and balances are quite effective. Though, a GOP-led Congress would give Trump a pretty good hand in passing policy.
I've said plenty about Hillary on some of my previous posts.
In conclusion, please, no socialist regime change in the United States.
Posted on 14 September 2016 - 03:00 AM
pinkflowergirl39 wrote
Mr_Bloxley wrote...
Cool! Spoiler votes!
Posted on 14 September 2016 - 04:23 AM
It's basically asshole vs a liarPosted on 14 September 2016 - 06:56 AM
LordBowser wrote
imbat wrote...
Where do I begin?
Let's start with the fact that Trump didn't actually kick that woman out of his rally. The one-sided liberal media made it seem that way, and quite frankly, when you watch the video, it does seem that way. However, in reality, several sources (I think the Trump campaign, too) have said that Trump was joking with the woman, and that by the time he made the remark that the baby should get out, the woman, out of courtesy, left the arena.
Trump may be mean and harsh at times, but kicking out a baby? Give me a break.
Bernie's plans always sounded really great on the surface. I mean, who wouldn't want free college and free this and free that? As an individual myself in higher education, I'd love if it were all free! However, that's just not going to work out in the United States without major tax increases and higher government expenditures. Our country is in enough debt as it is, and if we're going to pile on new social programs left in right, we're not going to ever get out of it unless we're all taxed out of house and home.
And before you say, it works in places like Sweden! The United States has 35 times as many people as Sweden; the United States is much larger; and there is a much greater variety of culture (Deep South versus Northeast, plains versus coasts, etc.). Taxing the hell out of everyone in order to bring the lower class up sounds good, but when you start implementing so many regulations and revenue plans on small businesses, especially, you're not going to help the economy much. A big overbearing government controlling every facet of the economy and strangling small businesses to the point that the state is the only supplier… hm… sounds familiar…
Raising the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour is very risky. Sure, the people who are in those positions have a decent living now, but what about the employer? Do you really think they're going to want to pay a fry cook at McDonald's fifteen dollars an hour to flip burgers? Labor costs money, and you're just going to cause businesses to close down and to cut back on employees. Have you ever wondered why American companies flock to foreign lands to make products? Americans want too much money for their labor. We aren't competitive in labor when we demand so much as a minimum wage. Other places get paid dirt cheap for their labor. There's definitely a trade-off.
Yes, Obama's approval ratings are relatively good lately. However, he's a lame duck at the moment and practically can get nothing done without making an executive order because Congress is controlled by Republicans now. Bipartisanship has gotten rarer since Obama's taken office. Obama's had some blunders, too. Obamacare sparked a lot of contention in government, and in general, it is viewed pretty poorly by most people (except for those who use it–sometimes). Obama's two terms are up, and a lot of people want change. Hillary won't give it–she'd be Obama's third (and God forbid fourth) term.
That's part of Trump's appeal: he's an agent of change. His policies are in stark contrast to the current administration, and many people feel that they've been stagnated in Obama's administration. So many look to Trump for hope. That very "agent of change" and "hope" idea was one of the principal campaigning devices during Obama's 2008 run. It works well. And even though Trump is highly out of the ordinary, this is a driving force of his campaign as well.
Trump's rhetoric is very strongman-like. He's coming out as the tough guy who's going to crack down on ISIS and our enemies and "make America great again." Often times, a candidate's extreme rhetoric like this is just rhetoric. Openly killing innocent people (regardless of their affiliation), I believe, violates international law, so it's most likely just rhetoric. People tend to forget just how little direct power a president really has. Checks and balances are quite effective. Though, a GOP-led Congress would give Trump a pretty good hand in passing policy.
I've said plenty about Hillary on some of my previous posts.
In conclusion, please, no socialist regime change in the United States.
Trump bought his presidential candidate position. If he doesnt have money then he wouldn't even be close to being a candidate, and of course everyone falls for his money
Last edited on 14 September 2016 - 10:15 AM by RegalRat
HarrisAz wrote
LordBowser wrote...
Trump bought his presidential candidate position. If he doesnt have money then he wouldn't even be close to being a candidate, and of course everyone falls for his money
He didn't buy his presidential candidacy. Sometimes you can buy votes, but you can't buy over ten million primary votes.
One of Trump's selling points during his primary campaign was that he was a self-funding candidate. That's very rare to see, since most candidates get their money through donations from special interests, super PACs, and small campaign donations from voters (he received only the latter). This was a selling point because often times people who accept money from very rich people and groups are bound to give "favors" to them once they get elected. By not taking money from them, people saw Trump as completely independent of these often shady political financiers.
Furthermore, he paid far less than any of his rivals during the campaign, and he still won. If anything, bragging about his wealth like he usually does turned away voters more than it did attract them.
Posted on 14 September 2016 - 09:56 AM
imbat wrote
DJPano wrote...
Bernie Sanders was for the majority…not the rich, fat, and crazy people already in charge. Honestly after Obama's past few months I would rather have him over Trump or Hillary. I don't understand Donald Trump, how can someone have the audacity to LITERALLY KICK A WOMAN OUT OF HIS RALLY FOR HER BABY CRYING. If I was her I would be mortified. In my opinion if he really wanted the baby and woman gone he should have called someone over (security) and asked them to remove her not publicly embarrass her to thousands. People call me crazy when I say I dislike Trump, for example my teacher, we had a hour argument about something similar to this. These are her exact words "Bernie is crazy, he wants to make college more available, and help people who don't have a job. Before I start another rant remember that I believe you should have to work in life to get what you desire, but you should be able to have a place to sleep either way. How are people supposed to get a job if they
1. aren't clean
2. don't have proper clothes to apply for a job
3. a way to get there everyday
4. and most importantly a place to sleep. if you can't sleep properly you can't work properly.
Now back to Donald Trump. He is basically a terrorist because he said this "When you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families."
TERRORISM IS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AND THIS IS WHAT THIS CRAZY MAN WANTS TO DO!
Okay, now time for Hillary. I don't have too much against her except that I don't agree with her policies, think half of what she says sounds retarded, and she beat Bernie.
Posted on 14 September 2016 - 10:01 AM
Imo politics is something that should not be discussed in a gaming forum.Posted on 14 September 2016 - 10:15 AM
Jmqcc wrote
Imo politics is something that should not be discussed in a gaming forum.
Posted on 14 September 2016 - 11:46 AM
cringiecake wrote
Pleepo wrote...
this is socialism you're talking about, yes?
Yes.