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StarlightGlow wrote...


So you would rather not have an anti-cheat rather than have an anti-cheat that detects obvious hackers?

In my opinion, maybe Archy/GBerry could implement silent ban waves, kind of like judgement days but they're silent and happen like every 2 weeks or so after enough data is collected.

"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer"
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StarlightGlow wrote

Suggesting wrote...


"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer"

I'm stating that if GCheat was removed, you'd have fly hackers, bhoppers etc. If you had GCheat, you wouldn't have all of those obvious hackers but would still have some ghost clienters, which could get caught by Judgement Day. It's better that we have GCheat, no point in removing it. Plus, the development team has worked on GCheat a lot so they wouldn't remove it anyway, unless it started like glitching out or something, which wouldn't happen.
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More checks for cheaters.
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Suggesting wrote

StarlightGlow wrote...


I'm stating that if GCheat was removed, you'd have fly hackers, bhoppers etc. If you had GCheat, you wouldn't have all of those obvious hackers but would still have some ghost clienters, which could get caught by Judgement Day. It's better that we have GCheat, no point in removing it. Plus, the development team has worked on GCheat a lot so they wouldn't remove it anyway, unless it started like glitching out or something, which wouldn't happen.
Idk, I heard lately it's been banning a couple people who weren't hacking. Maybe it just needs to be fixed then, or the mods dealing with appeals need to be more considerate that the system might make a mistake every now and then instead of automatically assuming that everyone banned by it was hacking for sure.
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StarlightGlow wrote

Suggesting wrote...

Idk, I heard lately it's been banning a couple people who weren't hacking. Maybe it just needs to be fixed then, or the mods dealing with appeals need to be more considerate that the system might make a mistake every now and then instead of automatically assuming that everyone banned by it was hacking for sure.

Those people who say that were false banned were probably ghost clienters or something.
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Suggesting wrote

StarlightGlow wrote...


Those people who say that were false banned were probably ghost clienters or something.
Nope, I personally know at least one person who was doing absolutely nothing wrong and was banned anyway.
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StarlightGlow wrote

Suggesting wrote...

Nope, I personally know at least one person who was doing absolutely nothing wrong and was banned anyway.
Naomi?
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pinkflowergirl39 wrote

StarlightGlow wrote...

Naomi?
Yeah, I PvP'ed her many times, and I can confirm she is way too bad to be using hacks.
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HarrisAz wrote



#1 asia builduhc Leavatein was banned manually. He was so blatant and he was japanese too but it took forever for him to be banned. Like you get good ping but you still wanna cheat…
Ping has nothing to do with a person cheating.
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HoboInABox wrote

Theres so many clients you can download for free that bypasses GCheat lol. Kinda sad
please name a single one. clients don't "bypass gcheat". they just squeeze past the threshold needed for an unfair advantage ban and get banned on judgement day.
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Survive wrote

HoboInABox wrote...

please name a single one. clients don't "bypass gcheat". they just squeeze past the threshold needed for an unfair advantage ban and get banned on judgement day.

I know nothing really bypasses gcheat, but theres so many clients you can download and use to cheat blatantly, and you wont be banned until the next jday…
Sometimes jday's are really far from eachother in time.
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You are always allowed to send me clients in a PM that are advertised as bypassing GCheat. I don't have time to keep up with them, but I do have time to test them and if they do, to patch it.
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Archybot wrote

You are always allowed to send me clients in a PM that are advertised as bypassing GCheat. I don't have time to keep up with them, but I do have time to test them and if they do, to patch it.
what's your method of avoiding rats?
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Survive wrote

Archybot wrote...

what's your method of avoiding rats?


I have VMs that support GPU passthrough so I can play minecraft at 120+ FPS but it's sandboxed, and then I just revert the snapshot after testing each client. I basically have 2 computers built into one when it comes to hardware, which means the VMs actually think they are a real computer since I give them dedicated passthrough hardware so I can run software/hacks that even detect VMs and disable.
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Archybot wrote

Survive wrote...



I have VMs that support GPU passthrough so I can play minecraft at 120+ FPS but it's sandboxed, and then I just revert the snapshot after testing each client. I basically have 2 computers built into one when it comes to hardware, which means the VMs actually think they are a real computer since I give them dedicated passthrough hardware so I can run software/hacks that even detect VMs and disable.
ohh yeah, I just use sandboxie to test rats but that's a smart way to also play minecraft inside the VM.
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HoboInABox wrote

Survive wrote...


I know nothing really bypasses gcheat, but theres so many clients you can download and use to cheat blatantly, and you wont be banned until the next jday…
Sometimes jday's are really far from eachother in time.

"I know nothing really bypasses gcheat"
Not to be negative but I'm pretty certain that quite a few do.. Hence why people get banned for KA and the video is given as evidence, not logs.
there's now so many autoclickers and ghost clients out there. A few of them must bypass entirely, or at the very least don't trigger more logs than a normal player.
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Here are some of my suggestions and complaints about how cheaters are handled right now

/report: I don't even bother to report anymore because it's literally impossible to get a mod to ban a cheater in game (I know this isn't the fault of the moderators). How can we fix this? Punish the stupid 9 year olds that /report every single person that beats them in a match, doing that would actually let the mods teleport to people who are playing for high ELO and keep coming across cheaters. I would suggest this for the false in game reports: If people are constantly making false in game reports on everyone that beats them, then remove their right to report for a week. If they carry on after a week, then make it a month and so on.

Reporting on the forums: I've made quite a few reports on the forums now on blatant, blatant cheaters, and it ticked me off a little when they were all denied. I won't bring them up again because they've been denied after a repost, but I think that the staff team should really look into certain reports more before denying them.

I'd also like to add that Badlion should be screensharing people, 100%. If a staff member thinks someone is cheating, or a lot of reports are being made on them but aren't completely sure if they're cheating yet, then that's where screensharing comes in handy. The really advanced clients probably won't be detected, but it would get rid of a lot of the randoms with huzuni on lowish settings.

Sorry i'm coming across as rude or angry but it just gets insanely annoying constantly losing rating to cheaters, like legit today I queued against some idiot with probably the highest vape settings possible in ranked gapple and after he beat me he actually messaged me "gg, that fight was legit, I didn't use vape or macros or anything" and he logged off, then I checked his punishments page and he'd just been unbanned for cheating.
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Archybot wrote

Survive wrote...



I have VMs that support GPU passthrough so I can play minecraft at 120+ FPS but it's sandboxed, and then I just revert the snapshot after testing each client. I basically have 2 computers built into one when it comes to hardware, which means the VMs actually think they are a real computer since I give them dedicated passthrough hardware so I can run software/hacks that even detect VMs and disable.

Comprehension level = negative
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chocs wrote


Not to be negative but I'm pretty certain that quite a few do.. Hence why people get banned for KA and the video is given as evidence, not logs.
there's now so many autoclickers and ghost clients out there. A few of them must bypass entirely, or at the very least don't trigger more logs than a normal player.
Well GCheat logs everything so eventually when the GCheat Devs implement the checks you are going to get banned so technically speaking nothing bypasses GCheat it's just a matter of time untill GCheat detects it and bans you.
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Gee let's try to make a competent anticheat that's better than gcheat
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