Posted on 27 September 2016 - 06:42 PM

As I'm sure many of you are well aware, not many people like the ranking system. The ranking system consists of Bronze, Silver, Gold, Emerald, Diamond, and Masters. All with different tiers of 5-1 as you work your way up. Ever since season 13, its been made very clear that people want elo back. With this new system, you're constantly queueing people who are either higher ranked, or similarly ranked to yourself. Which makes it much more difficult to achieve your goals and high ranks. Notice that even for the best players, their w/l ratios aren't that great because of this. With elo, people set goals and standards for themselves, and tried to improve as much as they could. As badlion grew, there were milestones set in terms of elo, especially as build uhc was added as well as other kits that are popular. Milestones such as 2k elo, 2.1k elo, 2.2k elo, etc. Hitting one of those milestones made you feel really proud of yourself as it took a lot of work and grinding to do so. I've noticed that with the ranking system people get de-ranked constantly, and I've seen a lot more toxicity in chat about losing. With the ranking system, also came a new playstyle. In Season 12 and below, players actually went in for melee, and fights were more evened out. But in season 13 and 14, people constantly bow spam, lava spam, and run away and place water just because they're so desperate to not lose. It's pretty safe to say that about 80% or more of the community wants to bring back elo. With the new system, its very hard to set new records, as danteh did in the past with hitting 2600 elo, 2700 elo, and so on. At that time, mostly everyone was satisfied with badlion and how the server was going. But when the devs introduced the new system, the server has been a lot more toxic, and is not growing nearly as fast. So from my perspective, as well as others I'm sure, I don't really understand why the owners and devs don't just listen to the community that gave the server life, and bring back what people want? The players that are active on the server are what give the server life and keep the server running how it should, with the developers and owners in the background not giving people what they want. In my opinion, needs to be brought back in season 15 and through the rest of the seasons. I firmly believe that elo will make people happy once again and the server growth rate will spike, and the owners should listen to the community that keeps their server alive.

Last edited on 27 September 2016 - 06:55 PM by Player201q

the best and fastest way to get better and "achieve goals and high ranks" is to play better players.
also idk why people care about rank so much. if people didnt play differently just for elo/rank then they'd probably improve quicker because you aren't sweating a -practice- server.
its practice. it's not supposed to be super competitive for rank so you can boast to everyone about ur rank on badlion.

Last edited on 27 September 2016 - 07:07 PM by Archybot

Not true, each passing day more and more people like this system over ELO.


That means the matchmaking system is working as intended. This is good


So you're saying artificial community set milestones of 2k is better then hardcoded milestones of say Diamond V? This argument for ELO is so stupid because it's actually an argument for our current system.


Because people didn't constantly lose ELO, which would make you go down faster.


What chat are you in?!?!?


That's called the META changing, and it's changed several times before we got rid of ELO too.


It's pretty safe to say that about 95% or more of statistics are made up on the spot to prove your point.


Here's a record, how about someone hit D3, D2, D1, or Masters.


Between this comment and the chat toxic comment, I think it is safe to say you are legit blind.



No


No


You didn't give the server life, communities come and go, but the owners/development stay.



I think you should shut the fuck up because you're wrong in so many ways I can't even start. Our position compared to other servers has either stayed the same or gone up.

Posted on 27 September 2016 - 07:32 PM

What Archy said above I completely agree with.

Posted on 27 September 2016 - 07:35 PM

made up statistics? go message someone in chat and see what system they like better now that they've experienced both. To me it appears that youre just hiding behind the fact that you are an owner and whatever you say goes, and you don't care about giving the community what they want. No one asked for a ranking system like this, everyone was happy with elo. If you cared to log on the server recently, theres constant spam in chat about #bringbackelo or #bringbackseason12. maybe the toxicity levels I mentioned are wrong, but either way, people were a lot more satisfied with gaining elo than having to fight sweaty 11 year olds just to go up 1 tier of a rank. I'm active on the server and I noticed consistent chat messages about people saying "wow bow spammer" or "all you do is lava spam and run away." what kind of meta is that? its a meta that no one likes except for the people who do it themselves. the server would be much better off if elo still existed.

Posted on 27 September 2016 - 07:37 PM

also archy, you are the one who developed the system, so its kind of a given that you would disagree. but that doesn't really give you the right to just deny the fact that people prefer elo over ranks.

Posted on 27 September 2016 - 08:12 PM

tbh was gonna do this and debunk his whole argument but thought it'd be considered targeting xd

Posted on 27 September 2016 - 08:20 PM

You aren't worth my effort if you honestly think this is anywhere remotely true.

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