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Wish to learn how to ss for ghost clients >.<
Hello guys, P3ndora here.

I've played minecraft for around 2 years and see quite alot of changes to the way PvP works in minecraft. But in recent months there's been an increase in ppl hacking in some of the servers I've been playing. When the staff members in these servers ask them to ss through join.me / skype to check for any hack clients, most of the time we are unable to find out where it was hidden, yet after every failed screenshare (ss) they came back to the server to PvP and they play "abnormally well". It's like the skills they have is not achievable through normal means (I.e there's a few players in the server i played that is able to hit you so well that you are not able to get close to him within 3 blocks radius except for 1 or 2 lucky hits every 10 seconds).

After learning from my friends that there's a group of hack clients called ghost clients that has been popular among minecraft players since it was easy to locate and download it, I feel that it is better for me to understand more about how these ghost clients work so that I'm able to help out some of the staff members to source out for these clients through ss.

Since the Badlion community has lots of experience in this field, would anyone mind to share some of their experience or maybe a few tips to locate these kinds of hackers? It would be a great help if someone can give a few good comments about it.

I'm all ears on whatever good points that you are able to say.

Thanks

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Ghost clients are just hacked clients but they are designed and used in a way that it doesn't necessarily looks like the player is cheating. They can anything from minuscule unfair gameplay tweaks to blatant kill aura. It can at times be more difficult to catch a ghost clienter because they are using tweaks that can at times be very difficult to catch. Sometimes, there are cases where you can watch some users pvp videos and you can clearly see that they are using a ghost client, though it isn't necessarily visible.

SS's, while they can be viable, in the case of a server the size of badlion they are completely unpractical and would create massive amounts of extra work for staff team. There are successful SS's and there are unsuccessful SS's, it is just completely unpredictable and the next thing you know you spend 20-30 min SSing a player that isn't even using a ghost client.

I cannot speak from a developer stand point but what I do know is there is always going to be cheaters and a "better" ghost client out there. Ultimately is just comes to down keeping the anti cheat up to speed with the updates and new clients that are released. I believe Badlion does a great job at this.

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Don't worry about SS'ing for them. Badlion doesn't do screenshares and even if they did I doubt that the staff team (excluding archy) would have the knowledge for it as well as the reliability and trustworthiness.
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jpalm wrote

Ghost clients are just hacked clients but they are designed and used in a way that it doesn't necessarily looks like the player is cheating. They can anything from minuscule unfair gameplay tweaks to blatant kill aura. It can at times be more difficult to catch a ghost clienter because they are using tweaks that can at times be very difficult to catch. Sometimes, there are cases where you can watch some users pvp videos and you can clearly see that they are using a ghost client, though it isn't necessarily visible.

SS's, while they can be viable, in the case of a server the size of badlion they are completely unpractical and would create massive amounts of extra work for staff team. There are successful SS's and there are unsuccessful SS's, it is just completely unpredictable and the next thing you know you spend 20-30 min SSing a player that isn't even using a ghost client.

I cannot speak from a developer stand point but what I do know is there is always going to be cheaters and a "better" ghost client out there. Ultimately is just comes to down keeping the anti cheat up to speed with the updates and new clients that are released. I believe Badlion does a great job at this.

when people say staff are robots this is what they mean
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Unshift wrote

jpalm wrote...

when people say staff are robots this is what they mean

What is that supposed to mean lol
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jpalm wrote

Unshift wrote...


What is that supposed to mean lol
as soon as you saw "screenshare" you write up this huge essay on why screenshares are ineffective and why badlion is successful without it
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Unshift wrote

jpalm wrote...

as soon as you saw "screenshare" you write up this huge essay on why screenshares are ineffective and why badlion is successful without it

I wrote about how I believe they would be ineffective on Badlion not that they wouldn't be effective at all. I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't twist my words. 3 short paragraphs is hardly an essay and how does sharing my genuine and personal opinion make the staff team sound robotic?
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jpalm wrote

Unshift wrote...


I wrote about how I believe they would be ineffective on Badlion not that they wouldn't be effective at all. I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't twist my words. 3 short paragraphs is hardly an essay and how does sharing my genuine and personal opinion make the staff team sound robotic?
Because if you actually read it he wasn't talking about badlion at all.
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SS can sometimes come up with false positives. I was staff on ParaPvP and a trial mod found an "optifine client"… He went in his versions and his optifine folder. :/
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Just apply for servers that do ss's like parapots or others, easiest way to learn. That's how I learned.
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Bobbles wrote

SS can sometimes come up with false positives. I was staff on ParaPvP and a trial mod found an "optifine client"… He went in his versions and his optifine folder. :/
thats because you were staff on Para. I would go on there and see staff in a screenshare room for 54 minutes constantly, and then I'd be moved in to screenshare them and either say they're clean or cheating within 5-7 minutes. If you're smart false positives shouldn't come up.
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Yea wrote

Bobbles wrote...

thats because you were staff on Para. I would go on there and see staff in a screenshare room for 54 minutes constantly, and then I'd be moved in to screenshare them and either say they're clean or cheating within 5-7 minutes. If you're smart false positives shouldn't come up.
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So para network is a place where they can teach you how to screenshare for ghost clients? Thanks guys.
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P3ndora wrote

So para network is a place where they can teach you how to screenshare for ghost clients? Thanks guys.
yeah but not really lol. Clients like incognito and vape and spook you won't learn shit from there. Basic ghost clients like the forge mod ones sure you'll learn some stuff. Para's staff are pretty shit at screensharing lol, and so is almost every other server except for PvPlounge and MineHQ
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Yea wrote

Bobbles wrote...

thats because you were staff on Para. I would go on there and see staff in a screenshare room for 54 minutes constantly, and then I'd be moved in to screenshare them and either say they're clean or cheating within 5-7 minutes. If you're smart false positives shouldn't come up.
hey, I didn't do em' most staff aren't that bright on there but some are actually pretty good at ssing. I've yet to see it
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It's easy to find some of these clients.
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BlizzardPlayz wrote

It's easy to find some of these clients.


Mind sharing some tips on those clients you are indicating about senpai :D
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P3ndora wrote

BlizzardPlayz wrote...



Mind sharing some tips on those clients you are indicating about senpai :D
If they're using xray and you can't find it in-game something will pop up in cheatsmasher [Ljava.lang.Object and If they're using cracked vape [Ljava.lang.string will show up.
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BlizzardPlayz wrote

P3ndora wrote...

If they're using xray and you can't find it in-game something will pop up in cheatsmasher [Ljava.lang.Object and If they're using cracked vape [Ljava.lang.string will show up.
the fact you even need cheatsmasher makes me laugh. Just check their configs and they'll have a X-ray file in there. You can't delete X-ray when you're running it. Here's the thing about screensharing methods. The more that get leaked, the more chance you have of it getting patched. Whoever even thinks about leaking SS methods and is a staff member is pretty fucking stupid for doing it. Obviously this doesn't matter what Blizzard says because it's patched lawl.
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Yea wrote

P3ndora wrote...

yeah but not really lol. Clients like incognito and vape and spook you won't learn shit from there. Basic ghost clients like the forge mod ones sure you'll learn some stuff. Para's staff are pretty shit at screensharing lol, and so is almost every other server except for PvPlounge and MineHQ

Wasn't PvPLounge exposed for ratting people in ss or something?
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