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iBarbarian wrote

This is a good thread. Civil yet good discussion 😏

Don't jinx it ;)

I don't really think that the network would benefit from buying MCSG or any other network/server in fact, Badlion has great developers and they can always make things way better than they are now if they ever feel that something is lacking. I think SG 2.0 is fine, apart from the fact that there are no AU servers for it, so I have to play on EU with bad ping all the time. It's a pretty good gamemode though, and with GCheat it makes it even better so you know for sure that there's no blatant hackers in your game to ruin it. All in all in my opinion, I don't think they need to buy it.
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HIVLIK wrote

Curious, what makes the plugin on MCSG better than Badlion's? I don't know the difference in features


MCSG has an amazing tiering system, really balanced chests, a simplistic vanilla like SG plugin without all the additional twists to it.

Also, the smallest things make the largest difference. I preferred the ability to prefire bows during death match whereas on Badlion the bow doesn't fire if you draw it back when the timer is still counting down. There's also 4 charges of fns and their scoreboard looks good. These small things are what I loved about MCSG which is why even though there's a ton of hackers I still continued playing there over Badlion's SG. My connection there is also better since their servers are west coast but that's besides the point.
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ripprixy wrote

Unwise wrote...


i mean everyone copied mcsg, if there was no mcsg there would be no hive or badlion sg
Badlion sg depends heavily on mcsg maps

I agree! MCSG paved the way for everyone else, and their gamemode was impressive. But then they started to make terrible decisions, and their collapse was almost entirely their own fault.
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Although I love playing MCSG, I don't think it would really be worth it because a ton of people on MCSG are banned from Badlion, and because it was already dying before it closed down there would barely be any new people coming over, so not much of a profit considering the work to combine the servers and the lack of new people.
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BenBdaMan wrote

Although I love playing MCSG, I don't think it would really be worth it because a ton of people on MCSG are banned from Badlion, and because it was already dying before it closed down there would barely be any new people coming over, so not much of a profit considering the work to combine the servers and the lack of new people.

Not in the least the mcsg game mode is still very popular just what killed it was the staff and decision the administration made. With badlion administration being they actually listen to the community I'm pretty sure the game mode would be back to life within very little time. Mcsg was in its prime when there weren't hackers and 1.7, Badlion has very few cheaters and any game mode compatibility. With that being said mcsg would probably best out its prime within 2014 days and the game mode would come back alive
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stevenHACKS wrote

Unwise wrote...


Their main issues were the lack of staff members to ban the hackers (They also had biased, immature, and downright retarded staff members). Lack of developers to fix issues with the server, mainly their "anti cheat" which was garbage. Also the owner being inactive for about a year now, so practically no supervision at all.

ouch :/

Emendings wrote

Have you not heard there shutting down the old MCSG and starting a new MCSG with the same staff. It's fine
where and who have you heard that from? Do you know how expensive that would be? The only way MCSG would really come back is if we found a new owner. Please if you would, post informed stuff, not rumors.
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Let a MCGamer Mod tell his point of view ;)

First off, the only way Badlion ends up purchasing the MCGamer Network would be if Chad approaches them. He had stated to all staff and very briefly to the community before locking the forums "To make updates" that he would be approaching people that he is willing to sell the server. So unless Chad goes to Archy and asks him if he would like to purchase MCGamer, then it won't sell. And trust me, seeing MCSG come right back to life would be amazing… I and so many staff members are feeling lost with out it.

Secondly, from what I am told, MCGamer works on a few huge plugins, meaning everything is compiled into everything, so even if it were to be purchased, if what I was being told a few days ago is correct, the whole MCGamer plugin would have to be moved over unless parts get extracted. But like stated multiple times, I can agree that the MCGamer Survival Games is so much better than the Badlion SG. The gameplay like stated, gives off that more vanilla feel that many people like.
For it dying due to staff being "immature, biased, and downright retarded", I can tell you that is 100% not the case at all, and can inform you that the person who said that (Won't give out names, but it's somewhere on this thread" had over 10 valid infractions going with immature chat, inappropriate chat, racism, abuse, spam, disrespect, etc. So I can assure you that that info is pretty invalid. MCGamer strived on professionality and maturity.

The reason why it was losing players was just the lack of Chad. Everyone may say that the Administrators, Sr Staff, Moderators did terrible jobs, but that is really not true. The Moderators (around 30 of them) would be looking for hackers on a server that would hit 1.2 thousand at peak over hundreds of different servers, so 30 staff vs 1170 players online, looking for that 10% hackers over hundreds of server, is kind of hard, but would still emerge with many bans, with evidence uploaded right after. The Sr Mods were there more to get the Moderators to their peak shape, but at the same time making sure the community was doing well, and aiding them when needed. The Administration would be doing everything to the best of their abilities looking after Senior Mods, assisting them at the Sr Moderator jobs and looking over the whole server itself. But when it came to tough decisions, they would be doing it themselves without an owner, and when an Owner was needed, it would take some time as a lot of the time he was inactive. So blaming the majority of issues on the Administration team is indeed false.
I'm not saying it was all of Chad's fault, but quite a few problems came from him being inactive.

Now I'm not here to talk trash, I saw this and I decided to hop on, give out a Staff Member's opinion and point of view as I saw no other MCGamer staff did. Please don't give out huge hate as everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Props if you read everything,

Best Regards,
~Vlad
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badlion is monopoly
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I guess that will bring the community together.

Get the mainframe and Xime and integrate it into your SG 2.0.
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KenqzALT wrote

I guess that will bring the community together.

Get the mainframe and Xime and integrate it into your SG 2.0.
We already have most of these features https://imgur.com/vmobQsr
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vladthegreat100 wrote

Let a MCGamer Mod tell his point of view ;)

First off, the only way Badlion ends up purchasing the MCGamer Network would be if Chad approaches them. He had stated to all staff and very briefly to the community before locking the forums "To make updates" that he would be approaching people that he is willing to sell the server. So unless Chad goes to Archy and asks him if he would like to purchase MCGamer, then it won't sell. And trust me, seeing MCSG come right back to life would be amazing… I and so many staff members are feeling lost with out it.

Secondly, from what I am told, MCGamer works on a few huge plugins, meaning everything is compiled into everything, so even if it were to be purchased, if what I was being told a few days ago is correct, the whole MCGamer plugin would have to be moved over unless parts get extracted. But like stated multiple times, I can agree that the MCGamer Survival Games is so much better than the Badlion SG. The gameplay like stated, gives off that more vanilla feel that many people like.
For it dying due to staff being "immature, biased, and downright retarded", I can tell you that is 100% not the case at all, and can inform you that the person who said that (Won't give out names, but it's somewhere on this thread" had over 10 valid infractions going with immature chat, inappropriate chat, racism, abuse, spam, disrespect, etc. So I can assure you that that info is pretty invalid. MCGamer strived on professionality and maturity.

The reason why it was losing players was just the lack of Chad. Everyone may say that the Administrators, Sr Staff, Moderators did terrible jobs, but that is really not true. The Moderators (around 30 of them) would be looking for hackers on a server that would hit 1.2 thousand at peak over hundreds of different servers, so 30 staff vs 1170 players online, looking for that 10% hackers over hundreds of server, is kind of hard, but would still emerge with many bans, with evidence uploaded right after. The Sr Mods were there more to get the Moderators to their peak shape, but at the same time making sure the community was doing well, and aiding them when needed. The Administration would be doing everything to the best of their abilities looking after Senior Mods, assisting them at the Sr Moderator jobs and looking over the whole server itself. But when it came to tough decisions, they would be doing it themselves without an owner, and when an Owner was needed, it would take some time as a lot of the time he was inactive. So blaming the majority of issues on the Administration team is indeed false.
I'm not saying it was all of Chad's fault, but quite a few problems came from him being inactive.

Now I'm not here to talk trash, I saw this and I decided to hop on, give out a Staff Member's opinion and point of view as I saw no other MCGamer staff did. Please don't give out huge hate as everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Props if you read everything,

Best Regards,
~Vlad
I do not agree with some things, but all in all well explained.
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It would make sense but if badlion already has a working server, why buy a dead one?
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monopoly
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This would benefit nothing. Mcsg shutting down will cause players to either try new gamemodes or search for new servers which will be either astro or badlion. Buying them wouldn't provide anything , just cause you buy their server doesnt mean the players are going to come with it. The day kohi and badlion merged most of the kohi players started looking for other servers liek lounge voltix or sarefine. The sg community is alot more "dead" then the pot community so not alot of servers will benefit from the homeless player base.
I have to admit mcsg does have the nostalgic vanilla feeling alot of players love including myself but I dont think that could be moved to badlion same thing that happend with kohi.

I think the owners are more focused with arena right now so dont think they are gonna try to make more changes that includes sg. I myself am a really old mcsg player but I can say chads lack , him and the most of the staff team not caring about the community and not putting enough effort led to people leaving. This would have been alot sooner if the communtiy still didnt have faith in mcsg or if there were other servers. The end was near when they removed the AU servers and soon the rest of the network. The ranks for far too expensive for what they would provide thus making less people donate. I grew up on that server and I dont think it deserves the reputation and the positive feedback it had that was gained by the lack of competetion. Chad caused the birth and the death of mcsg.
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HIVLIK wrote

Curious, what makes the plugin on MCSG better than Badlion's? I don't know the difference in features


Better hits, knockback, tiering system and a looks better than Badlion. And btw it's the server where I and most of the old pvp community members grew up
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