Posted on 17 October 2016 - 04:27 PM
Khazars wrote
Metarus wrote...
Posted on 17 October 2016 - 05:46 PM
+1 Horse is the worst ladder everPosted on 17 October 2016 - 06:29 PM
xIronMatt wrote
They should change it to kohi. The fact that you could punch people gave you so much possibilities of winning and it made it a lot more fun
Posted on 17 October 2016 - 06:39 PM
i like horsePosted on 17 October 2016 - 06:50 PM
Never liked horse, I will never like horse.Posted on 17 October 2016 - 06:54 PM
Saevar2000 wrote
You predict pretty similarly whether you lag or not, it's just harder to strafe when you lag. If this is your main argument though you could remove every bow kit for the same reason, which would be illogical. High ping is a disadvantage in any kit, it doesn't give enough reason to remove it from ranked.
The problem with horse nowadays is that barely anyone is actually good at it, so they all dislike it and don't try and play it to improve. In my opinion, Debuff is just another pot kit that I'm bad at; it'd be easy for me to complain and hope that it gets removed, but instead I just try to improve at it. If you get good at horse you can just cruise through most matches because people just try and melee and don't understand that 95% of the time that gets you killed, in the same way that good players can drop me in pot kits.
Posted on 17 October 2016 - 06:58 PM
BlueJewell wrote
If you're bowspamming the other person in UHC, Iron or even SG it's already one-sided. The bow does a lot of damage and is a ranged weapon. It isn't unbalanced or overpowered, it's how the kit is meant to be played. If it wasn't meant to be a bow kit I'm sure the feature where you can't leave your horse wouldn't have been added.
Posted on 17 October 2016 - 07:56 PM
Ads_ wrote
BlueJewell wrote...
If you're bowspamming the other person in UHC, Iron or even SG it's already one-sided. The bow does a lot of damage and is a ranged weapon. It isn't unbalanced or overpowered, it's how the kit is meant to be played. If it wasn't meant to be a bow kit I'm sure the feature where you can't leave your horse wouldn't have been added.
What I'm saying is you're bowspamming the other player's horse, therefore freezing them and making it an unenjoyable experience.
Posted on 17 October 2016 - 09:38 PM
Unshift wrote
Posted on 17 October 2016 - 10:31 PM
-1, horse is good. Get gud kid.Posted on 17 October 2016 - 10:44 PM
xIronMatt wrote
Posted on 17 October 2016 - 10:48 PM
NaomiBliss wrote
Posted on 17 October 2016 - 11:04 PM
You mention that you liked season thirteen so much better because horse wasn't involved, but you didn't even play for global that season.I'm confused.
Last edited on 18 October 2016 - 02:04 AM by AngryMinotaur
Kikzo wrote
It's unbalanced? How, people get the same equipment thus making it a fair kit.
It's more reliant on ping than skill? Well yeah, that's the case in any ladder.
It's impossible to get onto the leaderboards if you have high ping? Yup, just like every other ladder. Horse is one of the easier ones.
Not true, I made it to top 10 in gapple for almost two weeks and I have 180 ms
Also +1 horse is only based on ping, by that I dont mean ping like reachy hits or such,
I mean ping by delay, horse is laggy af yo. its not even fun.
Posted on 18 October 2016 - 02:43 AM
Unshift wrote
Khazars wrote...
Posted on 18 October 2016 - 06:49 AM
Khazars wrote
Unshift wrote...
That's why horse should stay.
Posted on 18 October 2016 - 06:50 AM
Ads_ wrote
Saevar2000 wrote...
You predict pretty similarly whether you lag or not, it's just harder to strafe when you lag. If this is your main argument though you could remove every bow kit for the same reason, which would be illogical. High ping is a disadvantage in any kit, it doesn't give enough reason to remove it from ranked.
The problem with horse nowadays is that barely anyone is actually good at it, so they all dislike it and don't try and play it to improve. In my opinion, Debuff is just another pot kit that I'm bad at; it'd be easy for me to complain and hope that it gets removed, but instead I just try to improve at it. If you get good at horse you can just cruise through most matches because people just try and melee and don't understand that 95% of the time that gets you killed, in the same way that good players can drop me in pot kits.
Why should there be a ranked ladder that gives you different movement capabilities just because you have different latency. If you have high latency you can't dodge arrows because of how delayed the horse movement is, you can only rely on random strafing while a player with low latency can dodge your shots. Do you see the problem here?
High latency isn't always pure disadvantage in most kits, you can use it to your advantage but in horse there's nothing but a massive disadvantage for high latency players.
Posted on 18 October 2016 - 07:04 AM
Unshift wrote
Khazars wrote...
That's why horse should stay.
And people with high ping don't use horses even in uhcs
Posted on 18 October 2016 - 07:16 AM
Khazars wrote
Unshift wrote...
And people with high ping don't use horses even in uhcs
i forced myself to keep reading when i saw "pig pvp is a real pvp situation" i laughed so hard i fell off my bed
high ping and low ping and the disadvantages/advantages of either one doesn't relate to what you said, "And people with high ping don't use horses even in uhcs." That makes no sense in your argument.
Posted on 18 October 2016 - 11:22 AM
Metarus wrote
Kikzo wrote...
I have higher ping (130-140 ms, sometimes higher), so I kind of know.
And Kikzo, I agree horse should stay. I'm not trying to attack you, but your arguments are flawed.
In my opinion, I hate horse with a vengeance since it is more difficult with high ping, but I think it should stay because it does happen in real UHCs. ArenaPvP wasn't designed to be it's own gamemode, there's a reason it was addressed as practice for quite a while.
Understood the first part wrongly and personally disagree with the second part. But yah, I'm getting decent ping so you should know better I guess