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Remove speed from Soup
With speed I (or without speed) it becomes a jump-crit-equal-hit-trade-fiesta like Diamond ladder except without the bow. And like many already said removing refills lowers the skill cap.
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Unwise wrote

I'm better at no-refill but I think the refill raises the skill cap a little more.
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Kikzo wrote

Speed 1: Yes
Remove refill: No, it's the most skillbased element in IronSoup in my eyes, even though I suck at it.



exactly, managing your soups is a huge skill required in soup. Removing refills makes the ladder pretty dumb imo.
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CHEESYHORNBLOWER wrote

In germany SoupPvP is still very popular. I am part of its community and I can tell for sure that the majority doesn't like speed while souping. If you remove the speed, you could get some players to play on badlion. =)

More german cheaters? please no uhc is already filled with them, soup without speed would be bad
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fightingcloud wrote

Kikzo wrote...




exactly, managing your soups is a huge skill required in soup. Removing refills makes the ladder pretty dumb imo.


Badlion's Soup ladder was way more popular back when it had its own soup server, WITHOUT refill. There was even an Iron Refill ladder, but way less people played that than played with just the hotbar, showing people preferred it.
I don't like the refill mainly because it raises the skill cap too high and most people don't bother as they always die to someone who quickdrops soup, causing the playerbase to decrease for soup.
Would you rather have a higher skill-cap or more players?
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chocs wrote

fightingcloud wrote...



Badlion's Soup ladder was way more popular back when it had its own soup server, WITHOUT refill. There was even an Iron Refill ladder, but way less people played that than played with just the hotbar, showing people preferred it.
I don't like the refill mainly because it raises the skill cap too high and most people don't bother as they always die to someone who quickdrops soup, causing the playerbase to decrease for soup.
Would you rather have a higher skill-cap or more players?
my dude, how many people played iron soup (no refill) in s12?
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BlueJewell wrote

FunkyFactions wrote...

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KarliXon wrote

CHEESYHORNBLOWER wrote...


More german cheaters? please no uhc is already filled with them, soup without speed would be bad


I agree that there are german cheaters, but you know that germans are not the only one.
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chocs wrote

fightingcloud wrote...



Badlion's Soup ladder was way more popular back when it had its own soup server, WITHOUT refill. There was even an Iron Refill ladder, but way less people played that than played with just the hotbar, showing people preferred it.
I don't like the refill mainly because it raises the skill cap too high and most people don't bother as they always die to someone who quickdrops soup, causing the playerbase to decrease for soup.
Would you rather have a higher skill-cap or more players?


higher skill cap
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