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Last edited on 30 November 2016 - 02:35 PM by Xay_

Remove lava in builduhc and change it by a 3 usable f&s PLEASE its so cancer af with glitches, lava works once in ten, its impossible to play
ty for an answer
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Posted on 30 November 2016 - 03:39 PM

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Posted on 01 December 2016 - 06:28 AM

Considering in BuildUHC, you have full diamond half proj/prot II. A flint and steel would essentially do no damage to the opponent. Lava buckets actually do quite a lot of damage to armour and are a very effective item in BuildUHC. BuildUHC continues to be the most popular gamemode on ArenaPvP and as a result doesn't need a change. I don't really see the point of removing lava.

-1 from me.
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Last edited on 01 December 2016 - 03:45 PM by Xay_

Okay so just one bucket ? just a proposal
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Posted on 01 December 2016 - 04:01 PM

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Posted on 01 December 2016 - 04:05 PM

Changing BuildUHC kit without widespread approval would cause riots. I don't think it's changing at all for a long time.
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Last edited on 01 December 2016 - 04:12 PM by dilbertt

Unwise wrote

Changing BuildUHC kit without widespread approval would cause riots. I don't think it's changing at all for a long time.
Like when you removed elo. Large change without majority approval has happened before, why wouldn't it again? And overall removing elo was beneficial.
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Posted on 01 December 2016 - 05:06 PM

TurtleeSr wrote

Unwise wrote...

Like when you removed elo. Large change without majority approval has happened before, why wouldn't it again? And overall removing elo was beneficial.

There's nothing that objectively makes one lava bucket better than having two, while MMR is objectively superior to elo.

And do keep in mind: elo has been a huge headache for Badlion and the pushback continues to this day. I don't think anyone is eager to repeat that.
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Posted on 01 December 2016 - 05:25 PM

Unwise wrote

TurtleeSr wrote...


There's nothing that objectively makes one lava bucket better than having two, while MMR is objectively superior to elo.

And do keep in mind: elo has been a huge headache for Badlion and the pushback continues to this day. I don't think anyone is eager to repeat that.
lol that is actually allot better of an argument than I was exPecting xd
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Posted on 01 December 2016 - 05:34 PM

Unwise wrote

TurtleeSr wrote...


There's nothing that objectively makes one lava bucket better than having two.
Personally I disagree. When people have more of something, they tend to be more careless with how they use it. This relates not only to other kits inside arena, but to the real world as well. Let's use the diamond kit for example. This kit has 32 arrows. Most people that know how to play the ladder don't "spam" their arrows in it as opposed to in other ladders where there are significantly more like BuildUHC. You are always going to play more conservative and careful with something if you have less of it. People are using lava now to the point to where they almost seem to be terrible without it. It's become something that they depend on for success in the ladder because they can play carelessly with it. If one gets blocked up, you have another. If they both get blocked up, you can always steal your opponents. I feel like I got slightly off topic but the overall point I'm trying to make is that if players only had 1 lava bucket, they would play more conservative with it and not be as "spammy" with it as before, hopefully making the kit enjoyable for a lot of people again.
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Posted on 01 December 2016 - 05:49 PM

In the upcoming Badlion PvP Client the lava glitches
will be fixed.
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Posted on 01 December 2016 - 09:32 PM

TurtleeSr wrote

Unwise wrote...

Personally I disagree. When people have more of something, they tend to be more careless with how they use it. This relates not only to other kits inside arena, but to the real world as well. Let's use the diamond kit for example. This kit has 32 arrows. Most people that know how to play the ladder don't "spam" their arrows in it as opposed to in other ladders where there are significantly more like BuildUHC. You are always going to play more conservative and careful with something if you have less of it. People are using lava now to the point to where they almost seem to be terrible without it. It's become something that they depend on for success in the ladder because they can play carelessly with it. If one gets blocked up, you have another. If they both get blocked up, you can always steal your opponents. I feel like I got slightly off topic but the overall point I'm trying to make is that if players only had 1 lava bucket, they would play more conservative with it and not be as "spammy" with it as before, hopefully making the kit enjoyable for a lot of people again.

I personally agree, but I also think that it's an opinion based argument about what the "superior" meta is and that the other side could be argued just as easily.

Changing a kit like Build risks breaking something that isn't broken.
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Posted on 01 December 2016 - 09:48 PM

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Posted on 01 December 2016 - 09:49 PM

Unwise wrote

TurtleeSr wrote...


I personally agree, but I also think that it's an opinion based argument about what the "superior" meta is and that the other side could be argued just as easily.

Changing a kit like Build risks breaking something that isn't broken.
Agreed
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