Last edited on 10 December 2016 - 07:47 PM by iHackLiTE
snipPosted on 10 December 2016 - 02:21 PM
I think the soup kit needs speed 2Posted on 10 December 2016 - 02:31 PM
the kit without speed is way better, the damage in the other kit was too much, only a few people could tank it. That is why nobody played the iron soup ladder.Posted on 10 December 2016 - 02:37 PM
Sitowitz wrote
This would be perfect, since you take half a heart to a heart of damage from shooting yourself, bow boosting would be much better because you won't be able to bow boost as much as you want without taking damage. Right now, if someone rushes short range, you will die in 3 shots that are fully charged, and there is no way to escape short range other than running away, which will probably get you shot a few times. This makes some fights really luck based and dependent on who lands the first shot, so punch 1 would be good
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Automatically DeletedPosted on 10 December 2016 - 03:01 PM
imo archer should remove speed 2Posted on 10 December 2016 - 03:05 PM
DerRevilos wrote
KarliXon wrote...
Wrong. It's another type of PvP.
Example fight:
No, actually, not wrong.
There's a really big difference between sword w/o speed and sword w/ speed.
On Badlion most of the diamond ladder is critting, where most of potion pvp is just strafing, so what Karlixon's saying is right, while you're saying he's wrong because Basti played soup w/o speed but also a different kit and he's been playing it for a while to my understanding.
I'm recording playing these matches and I can upload and link you the fights that are all just critting.
Posted on 10 December 2016 - 03:07 PM
I found soup kit better with speed 2 but I didn't come from the soup community.I also think that there should still be punch on the bows in archer to force longer distance, with speed 2 people can rush closer and get shot once or twice, but they're close enough already that they can earn that back if they're good at low-mid range.
Posted on 10 December 2016 - 03:13 PM
Verillium wrote
DerRevilos wrote...
No, actually, not wrong.
There's a really big difference between sword w/o speed and sword w/ speed.
On Badlion most of the diamond ladder is critting, where most of potion pvp is just strafing, so what Karlixon's saying is right, while you're saying he's wrong because Basti played soup w/o speed but also a different kit and he's been playing it for a while to my understanding.
I'm recording playing these matches and I can upload and link you the fights that are all just critting.
There are kit PvP servers based only on this kit. Check minekits.net.
Go ahead and check the best players. (Firs place has a channel on YouTube)
So we can assume he is a good player on this kit. I don't see a lot jump critting there.
Posted on 10 December 2016 - 03:15 PM
I like the new soup, but I think the archer could use some punch.Posted on 10 December 2016 - 03:20 PM
Soup is so bad right now.If you want to go for no speed, give it stone sword & no armor.
If you want to go for speed, give it full iron unenchanted, diamond sword sharp 1, speed 2 & strength 2 (old strength).
Last edited on 10 December 2016 - 03:34 PM by Weasely
Well the thing is with punch 1 it's too unpredictable, it hardly works as a bow boost lol so it's basically either punch 2 or no punchThis was supposed to be a reply to what someone else said…
Last edited on 10 December 2016 - 05:30 PM by Verillium
No, actually, not wrong.There's a really big difference between sword w/o speed and sword w/ speed.
On Badlion most of the diamond ladder is critting, where most of potion pvp is just strafing, so what Karlixon's saying is right, while you're saying he's wrong because Basti played soup w/o speed but also a different kit and he's been playing it for a while to my understanding.
I'm recording playing these matches and I can upload and link you the fights that are all just critting.
There are kit PvP servers based only on this kit. Check minekits.net.
Go ahead and check the best players. (Firs place has a channel on YouTube)
So we can assume he is a good player on this kit. I don't see a lot jump critting there.
If the other player was jump critting, Basti would've taken more damage and probably been forced to do the same.
It's not a matter of how the kit should be played, or how it's played on other servers, it's how it's played on Badlion.
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When it's done processing, I think I start playing Archer and Soup at around 2 minutes in.
Some people I'm critting and it's an easy fight, others are critting back and it's really just Diamond ladder.
Posted on 10 December 2016 - 03:37 PM
the problem for soup right now is, that the maps are too big, and there is no punishment for getting much knockback, if the maps are smaller people who crit alot will get more knockback and will be forced into a corner or a wall. there they can't tank or get good hits. on minekits the maps are allot smaller too.Posted on 10 December 2016 - 03:42 PM
#FuckRefillPosted on 10 December 2016 - 03:45 PM
I really don't like Speed 2 if its not proximity based damage and no punch. Its will cause way too much close range imoI don't mind Iron Soup but if its not going to have speed I think it should only be 1 hotbar
And if its going to be re-fill it should atleast be Speed 1
Next week can we have a Horse Test with old healing to see if people like it?
Posted on 10 December 2016 - 04:04 PM
Add speed to soupLast edited on 10 December 2016 - 04:38 PM by iHackLiTE
soup needs speed 2 otherwise its just an extended diamond match with everyone playing kangaroo simulator. in mcpvp, the home of soup pvp, everyone brough speed pots every single fight. the few soup servers that remain use speed. soup needs speed.also, refill should be kept because it widens the skillgap
Posted on 10 December 2016 - 04:56 PM
Can't we just have two archer ladder, the one that you are testing and the s14 one? It's gonna be way more easier to make everyone happyPosted on 10 December 2016 - 05:06 PM
iHackLiTE wrote
also, refill should be kept because it widens the skillgap
+1
McPvP for speed
mcpvp hg for non-speed