Posted on 11 December 2016 - 07:08 AM
Pils wrote
Are you stupid lol, it is not up to the speed that you took so much damage.. In the S14 soup ladder you had a sharp3 but now a sharp 1. I still prefer soup with speed on B A D L I O N
Last edited on 11 December 2016 - 09:36 AM by Kururugi_Suzaku
I don't like the new archer kit for a few reasons :- Random damages (sometimes, a not charged arrow can deal as much damage as a fully charged one)
- There is no damages difference between "longshots" and "shortshots" which leads to fights in which you shoot someone down to one heart,
you get closer to get the final shot and he just shoots you 3 times at 5 blocks and you have the same health as him
–> Longrange doesn't have any interest now because you can deal as much damages in 5 sec in shortrange
- Damages are too high
- There is no more knockback after you get shot –> Too much easy to get shots in a row, especially in shortrange –> (30 secs matches)
With all those changes, archer has just become some kind of iron where your arrows deal 3,5 hearts
Even though, there are a few changes that I also liked :
- No more pearls
- No more "autoboost"
- Speed II can also be a good thing if you get used to it
So I would be glad if you could take those remarks into account to improve this kit !
Posted on 11 December 2016 - 09:39 AM
it is absolutely perfect in this S15 test, it makes me want to dance.also, for those who want projectile protection, that would make the damage even more random, 2-4 hearts is the perfect range anyway
Posted on 11 December 2016 - 10:27 AM
DerRevilos wrote
KarliXon wrote...
Wrong. It's another type of PvP.
Example fight:
are you so stupid lmfao I guess you didnt even touch the ladder on badlion,if you get someone who will play like that against you you instantly won if you just crit, so it makes no sense to play like that
Posted on 11 December 2016 - 10:29 AM
nonante wrote
- Random damages (sometimes, a not charged arrow can deal as much damage as a fully charged one)
- There is no damages difference between "longshots" and "shortshots" which leads to fights in which you shoot someone down to one heart,
you get closer to get the final shot and he just shoots you 3 times at 5 blocks and you have the same health as him
–> Longrange doesn't have any interest now because you can deal as much damages in 5 sec in shortrange
- Damages are too high
- There is no more knockback after you get shot –> Too much easy to get shots in a row, especially in shortrange –> (30 secs matches)
With all those changes, archer has just become some kind of iron where your arrows deal 3,5 hearts
Even though, there are a few changes that I also liked :
- No more pearls
- No more "autoboost"
- Speed II can also be a good thing if you get used to it
So I would be glad if you could take those remarks into account to improve this kit !
not everything needs to be long range
Posted on 11 December 2016 - 10:32 AM
KarliXon wrote
DerRevilos wrote...
are you so stupid lmfao I guess you didnt even touch the ladder on badlion,if you get someone who will play like that against you you instantly won if you just crit, so it makes no sense to play like that
I know. This was a stupid response. I must admit that.
We know that this Kit can work as it is. But at the moment it obviusly isn't.
Do you have some ideas how we can make the kit not crit to win, without adding speed back?
Posted on 11 December 2016 - 10:42 AM
DerRevilos wrote
KarliXon wrote...
I know. This was a stupid response. I must admit that.
We know that this Kit can work as it is. But at the moment it obviusly isn't.
Do you have some ideas how we can make the kit not crit to win, without adding speed back?
disable jumping in it
Posted on 11 December 2016 - 10:59 AM
KarliXon wrote
nonante wrote...
not everything needs to be long range
Then maybe letting the pearls I guess would be a way to promote shortrange
Posted on 11 December 2016 - 11:46 AM
1au wrote
Craft soup is retarded.
Posted on 11 December 2016 - 01:58 PM
Automatically DeletedPosted on 11 December 2016 - 03:34 PM
i mean im 1st rn and i dont have alot of complaintsPosted on 11 December 2016 - 03:44 PM
KarliXon wrote
Last edited on 12 December 2016 - 05:49 AM by Luministe
Soup is not designed to be speed based. This is finally a real "soup" kit and I'd like to keep the combination refill/no speed. We don't need a 4th speeed II ladderIt would be more interesting to give stone sword & no armor as previously said, and more based on soup skills instead of a weird diamond-like fight.
Edit : This KB is honestly way too high for a soup ladder. It encourages too much jumpcritting and is less skill-based.
Posted on 11 December 2016 - 06:17 PM
Soup needs speed 2 otherwise as many are stating it becomes a crit fest for people that are evenly matched. In my opinion S12 soup was the most fun just because it was quicker but S14 soup kit takes more skill with refills. The reason people don't play soup is also because it isn't popular and has a wide range of things to be good at in order to be good at the kit.Posted on 11 December 2016 - 06:32 PM
I love the Season 15 Kit!Posted on 11 December 2016 - 06:32 PM
Luministe wrote
It would be more interesting to give stone sword & no armor as previously said, and more based on soup skills instead of a weird diamond-like fight.
Posted on 11 December 2016 - 08:38 PM
Luministe wrote
It would be more interesting to give stone sword & no armor as previously said, and more based on soup skills instead of a weird diamond-like fight.
Posted on 11 December 2016 - 11:36 PM
Luministe wrote
It would be more interesting to give stone sword & no armor as previously said, and more based on soup skills instead of a weird diamond-like fight.
Funny how you say it shouldn't be like a weird diamond-like fight when all it is right now is an extended diamond fight. Players just exchange crits, soup, and move on. Its tiring and boring, there is little skill involved. Its not that hard to soup, especially with how slow paced the ladder is with no speed, and the fact that crits are being thrown around there is so much kb being taken refilling doesn't require much effort.
Posted on 12 December 2016 - 03:52 AM
nonante wrote
- Random damages (sometimes, a not charged arrow can deal as much damage as a fully charged one)
- There is no damages difference between "longshots" and "shortshots" which leads to fights in which you shoot someone down to one heart,
you get closer to get the final shot and he just shoots you 3 times at 5 blocks and you have the same health as him
–> Longrange doesn't have any interest now because you can deal as much damages in 5 sec in shortrange
- Damages are too high
- There is no more knockback after you get shot –> Too much easy to get shots in a row, especially in shortrange –> (30 secs matches)
With all those changes, archer has just become some kind of iron where your arrows deal 3,5 hearts
Even though, there are a few changes that I also liked :
- No more pearls
- No more "autoboost"
- Speed II can also be a good thing if you get used to it
So I would be glad if you could take those remarks into account to improve this kit !
long range is gay range
Posted on 12 December 2016 - 02:39 PM
+1 if u want Kohi soup and Archer