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Everything wrong with Badlion right now
Posted on 25 December 2016 - 07:22 PM
+1 i helped with this i feel proudPosted on 25 December 2016 - 07:25 PM
Finally some1 who said everything in 1 thread instead of 100 immature fucks making rage threads about single things wrong with the server.+1
Posted on 25 December 2016 - 07:27 PM
+1Posted on 25 December 2016 - 07:43 PM
Why can't they implement the soup KB to the rest of the speed 2 laddersPosted on 25 December 2016 - 11:37 PM
Automatically DeletedPosted on 26 December 2016 - 05:48 AM
+1 even tho they won't listen to you or anyone from the communityPosted on 26 December 2016 - 05:54 AM
Arrian wrote
+1 even tho they won't listen to you or anyone from the community
Yea, exactly the whole point of https://www.badlion.net/forum/category/87 right?
Posted on 26 December 2016 - 05:59 AM
Arrian wrote
+1 even tho they won't listen to you or anyone from the community
ur a dumbass
Posted on 26 December 2016 - 07:46 AM
Saimo wrote
That's pretty much one of the most useless sections ever on the forums imo.
Everyone knows the problems but they're not being worked on and here are all the problems listed.
Yet it still gets removed by some asshole who thinks Badlion is ''perfect'' rn.
Posted on 26 December 2016 - 08:06 AM
Quit making these hasty conclusions on literally everything"it still gets removed by some asshole who thinks Badlion is perfect rn." - Probably noone of us think BL is 'perfect' atm
"they won't listen to you or anyone from the community" - We do, but sometimes it's better to keep things secret or make admins vote for decisions
"Probs some power hungry mod looking for senior so they become more relevant" - It wasn't a power hungry mod looking for senior
"cough cough xIronMatt" - And it for sure wasn't xIronMatt
Regarding the thread, I agree with most points. Problem is though that devs are super busy on BL premium. In Januari, when things should be done we can focus more on S15
Posted on 26 December 2016 - 08:07 AM
Oba wrote
Saimo wrote...
That's pretty much one of the most useless sections ever on the forums imo.
Everyone knows the problems but they're not being worked on and here are all the problems listed.
Yet it still gets removed by some asshole who thinks Badlion is ''perfect'' rn.
I'm sorry but what does Badlion gain from it exactly? What would be the point of just sitting and doing nothing? They are always extremely busy with important stuff and the "to-do list" is sooooooo long.
Here's my opinion about the points you brought up however:
1. Last time they asked the community for kb you know how everything went. In my opinion the only problem is that it's so little.
2. I mean, kohi itself when it shut down was already losing players and the fact that pretty much cheated didn't really help when the merge happened. However one of the things in the famous "to-do list" is to revamp Vault Battles and I guess that will make you happy
3. Despite me having a shit Italian connection I get no lag, I'd assume that your friend has some issues with your connection. Regarding the cheating part… it's not that gcheat gets worse, it's just that clients get better and as you can see gcheat is not really the top priority at the moment
4. Nothing to say really, having way more players would help
5. read 3
6. Archy said on stream that it's made for people who have shit pcs but then said that they don't really need 5 seconds to load a game so he might lower it to 2-3 seconds, I also hope it gets removed because it's really annoying
7. Ironmatt has been staff for a long time, he has experience. He's just a human and us humans make mistakes sometimes, remember that. I clearly remember you pming me about how bad the staff was even way before your ban so I really can't take you seriously when you say that it somehow got worse when you were banned, it's always been bad for you. Also I have never understood the "relying too much on gcheat" concept. People complain about certain staff doing certain things purely to get promoted so… why would we not bother checking reports? Especially considering that getting more bans helps with that and also because the chat is not really active due to the whole "chat lobbies" thing? Also please remember that the amount of reports is pretty insane so it's hard to check every report
Last edited on 26 December 2016 - 08:32 AM by Saimo
Ok ill list a few things the staff team did right while I was banned
1: Get rid of ELO
2: It feels like my reports get accepted/denied quicker
3: Added the click test thing on website
4: Added BL Premium (hopefully out soon)
5: Queueing against people your skill level (not really perfect but its better than it was before)
Probably alot more. Most of the things I complained about in this thread I also complained about all the way back in season 12.
''Last time they asked the community for kb you know how everything went. In my opinion the only problem is that it's so little.'' It was obvious people wanted Kohi's KB for the pot ladders but I don't feel the Kohi KB at all. Might be the lag or something I don't know.
And as soon as S15 gets out I would focus on GCheat improvements because the people I fight sometimes are impossible to beat.
Last edited on 26 December 2016 - 08:36 AM by Saimo
Oba wrote
Ok ill list a few things the staff team did right while I was banned
1: Get rid of ELO
2: It feels like my reports get accepted/denied quicker
3: Added the click test thing on website
4: Added BL Premium (hopefully out soon)
5: Queueing against people your skill level (not really perfect but its better than it was before)
Probably alot more. Most of the things I complained about in this thread I also complained about all the way back in season 12.
''Last time they asked the community for kb you know how everything went. In my opinion the only problem is that it's so little.'' It was obvious people wanted Kohi's KB for the pot ladders but I don't feel the Kohi KB at all. Might be the lag or something I don't know.
And as soon as S15 gets out I would focus on GCheat improvements because the people I fight sometimes are impossible to beat.
1. Would've happened anyways
2. It depends on who's online really
3. That's a dev thing
4. Been planned for a long time but us mods didn't know about it
5. Yea I agree
I'm sorry but I don't get this whole "kohi kb" thing, one of the reasons why its player base was going down was the kb also,
from what I can see here people were complaining about it a lot, then the merge happened and people wanted it back? Doesn't make sense to me
Posted on 26 December 2016 - 08:42 AM
Saimo wrote
Oba wrote...
1. Would've happened anyways
2. It depends on who's online really
3. That's a dev thing
4. Been planned for a long time but us mods didn't know about it
5. Yea I agree
I'm sorry but I don't get this whole "kohi kb" thing, one of the reasons why its player base was going down was the kb also,
from what I can see here people were complaining about it a lot, then the merge happened and people wanted it back? Doesn't make sense to me
Kohi KB was bad compared to how it was before. It wasn't perfect at the end of Kohi but pretty damn good before that imo.
Posted on 26 December 2016 - 08:54 AM
SporkHandles wrote
Arrian wrote...
ur a dumbass
how am I a dumbass? I can probably find at least 2 more threads like this one which got ignored and locked lmao
Last edited on 26 December 2016 - 09:26 AM by MasterGberry
Have you once considered that we remove posts like this because:1. They are being worked on already if they need to be worked on
2. They don't contribute any positive criticism. Just negative whining and complaining. Like after reading your post i have little to no respect for what you are trying to do here even though you are trying to positively influence Badlion. You are completely trashing our systems in this thread and going about trying to bring changes/updates completely wrong.
FYI an admin deleted your thread, not a mod. Incase #1 wasn't clear, the things that are actually valid from your thread are being worked on, sadly everything can't happen in a night.
Posted on 26 December 2016 - 09:42 AM
@Saimo kohi wasn't dying at all, at least 2500 players played at once at its end stages it was growing for a fact, prplz just couldn't cope with everything, kohi also had the reputation for being the most toxic server.Posted on 26 December 2016 - 09:45 AM
MasterGberry wrote
Have you once considered that we remove posts like this because:
1. They are being worked on already if they need to be worked on
2. They don't contribute any positive criticism. Just negative whining and complaining. Like after reading your post i have little to no respect for what you are trying to do here even though you are trying to positively influence Badlion. You are completely trashing our systems in this thread and going about trying to bring changes/updates completely wrong.
FYI an admin deleted your thread, not a mod. Incase #1 wasn't clear, the things that are actually valid from your thread are being worked on, sadly everything can't happen in a night.
1. They are being worked on already if they need to be worked on
2. They don't contribute any positive criticism. Just negative whining and complaining. Like after reading your post i have little to no respect for what you are trying to do here even though you are trying to positively influence Badlion. You are completely trashing our systems in this thread and going about trying to bring changes/updates completely wrong.
FYI an admin deleted your thread, not a mod. Incase #1 wasn't clear, the things that are actually valid from your thread are being worked on, sadly everything can't happen in a night.
Just letting you know; I'm not whining and not completely trashing your system. How else can I tell you guys the KB isn't as good as it was supposed to be or how the 5-second timer is annoying? I actually think I was being quite a nice guy compared to how many people just call Badlion shit and leave it there not letting staff know what's even wrong in the first place. The 5-second timer is made for people with PC's coming from the 90's. Not a single PC should take more than 5 seconds to load a map. Mine doesn't even take half a second and it's just a mid range PC. The Rating system was very good in season 13 and made alot more sense. I'll leave GCheat now hoping that Badlion Premium will hopefully clean up the cheaters, and possibly the lag as well. And about the fact that almost every Kohi player left Badlion isn't because everyone cheats, it's because there are real issues like the KB that really affect PVP.
+ when u merged with Kohi didn't archybot or someone claim that they would copy Kohi's KB?
looks alot different than how it looks like now lol
Last edited on 26 December 2016 - 10:30 AM by MasterGberry
Oba wrote
MasterGberry wrote...
Just letting you know; I'm not whining and not completely trashing your system. How else can I tell you guys the KB isn't as good as it was supposed to be or how the 5-second timer is annoying? I actually think I was being quite a nice guy compared to how many people just call Badlion shit and leave it there not letting staff know what's even wrong in the first place. The 5-second timer is made for people with PC's coming from the 90's. Not a single PC should take more than 5 seconds to load a map. Mine doesn't even take half a second and it's just a mid range PC. The Rating system was very good in season 13 and made alot more sense. I'll leave GCheat now hoping that Badlion Premium will hopefully clean up the cheaters, and possibly the lag as well. And about the fact that almost every Kohi player left Badlion isn't because everyone cheats, it's because there are real issues like the KB that really affect PVP.
+ when u merged with Kohi didn't archybot or someone claim that they would copy Kohi's KB?
looks alot different than how it looks like now lol
Despite what everyone loves to believe, half of this KB stuff is placebo and ping differences. There are some values that can be tweaked but unless you change them by a stupid amount it doesn't have a gigantic amount. If one user has a high ping and you have a low one it does not play out the nicest. Same vice versa. Not to mention difference in people using 1.7 vs 1.8 vs 1.9 etc. People use W tapping way more now than 2 years ago as well. There are a lot of changes since 2 years ago from the video you posted and you simply cannot compare them. I think we are planning on tweaking the speed KB a bit next season but we are not touching the non-speed at all.
The 5 second timer thing is actually a bug that we are going to fix. As far as cheaters/GCheat etc: https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/144254 The months of June/July/August of this past year were all stupidly high, because we unbanned all of the kohi players who were banned for cheating (around 40-50k of them). Over half of them got re-banned for cheating again.
Overall from what i've been told the gameplay on Badlion Premium feels a lot smoother due to low latency, faster tps on server/client, and not having things like GCheat and what not running on the server adding any extra calculations.
Posted on 26 December 2016 - 10:29 AM
Bean wrote
@Saimo kohi wasn't dying at all, at least 2500 players played at once at its end stages it was growing for a fact, prplz just couldn't cope with everything, kohi also had the reputation for being the most toxic server.
The amount of toxins and complaining from the Kohi community had it almost shut down completely. No matter what the size was the people in charge of it did not want to continue with it.