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Starlights_ wrote

What I am going to write is just my honest opinion from my POV. I do not mean to disrespect anyone or anything by this but I don't think I have ever written about this.


1. As of now, blocks disappearing would be an unpleasant change. In some scenarios I run out of blocks if I involve into a long bow fight, but in average matches I need to stay by some walls to not take stupid damage and that wall suddenly disappearing would just partially ruin the game.

2. PvP was never just about melee, not to mention the bow was first followed by the sword. I would honestly be cooler with 48 arrows or 32 arrows that you could pick up and imo that would satisfy all of the normal bow needs in a Build UHC match. The arrows weren't so big of a problem when Build was first introduced but it seems that as time passes by, the community keeps getting more and more competitive which is a GOOD thing.

3. As much as I hate getting more times into the lava than in engaging a melee fight I would prefer to stick to the lava. Build UHC has become more of its own gamemode than a practice for UHC. Yes, you might see people (like steamers) using FnS in UHCs but with current Build armor the FnS would be used more of forcing the opponent to water.

4. This is something I agree with. I absolutely love the S14 knockback for non-speed ladders such as Diamond or even SG(without thinking it's not the type of knockback I like when mainly rodding) but I will always like the S12 or S11 Build knockback more(only for the Build ladder). Yes, I am very open to changes and stick to them but I feel that the S12 knockback required more skill which might be totally inaccurate as the only changes would very minimal or optimizations (such as higher TPS).

I do not know what others will say but I am looking forward to see a little bit of a revamped Build kit after 6 seasons. We(if I can speak so) are always happy to see feedback and if you've got something to say, feel free to post it as long as it's constructive feedback and not constant complaining.
1. "Long bow fight", sounds unpleasant! good thing in #2 "long bow fights" are prevented! no one likes being hit by 64 arrows :(
2. well if there were 32 arrows, the bow would still be present, just not as prevalent as it once was; it is currently extremely overpowered. i wouldn't even mind being able to pick up arrows if that warranted a nerf to the current arrow quantity.
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why is this server so shit?
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Lowske wrote

why is this server so shit?
Just because you lose 8/10 games doesn't make the server shit
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@Kikzo do you really think s13 was better than it is right now? I also think that this kb is good cause it's way more stable than the past seasons.
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Louiie wrote

@Kikzo do you really think s13 was better than it is right now? I also think that this kb is good cause it's way more stable than the past seasons.

no
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Kikzo wrote

Louiie wrote...


no
then I think you should change the starting idea
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Louiie wrote

Kikzo wrote...

then I think you should change the starting idea

???
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Kikzo wrote

Louiie wrote...


???
You say that every kb before s14 was good
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-1 to everything
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UVpickles wrote

-1 to everything

great thanks for your in depth reasoning
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-1 Dont wanna see kids just Run-Rod-Bow-Fns-Run-Run-Rod-Fns-Fns-rod-bow-bow-run-bow-fns-fns-run
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Nicosby wrote

Kikzo wrote...



But hey let's keep the rod, that's totally not "cancerous" and shows skill!1!

Anyway, bowspam =/= using the bow. The bow is a proper PvP tool and everyone should be allowed to use it without getting raged on. Most of the "pvp community" uses the fishing rod to do the same thing a "bowspammer" would do, for example:
  • Knock your opponent back to heal up;
  • Start a very cheap combo by hitting your opponent;
  • Push your opponent into lava if there's some behind him;
  • … And so on. Also, the bow deals damage, so why the hell should we have reduced amount of arrows? Why do people want this kit to be sitrctly melee based? What's wrong with shooting all of my 64 arrows? And why is it okay for people to literally almost break their fishing rods just to get an easy and cheap combo? People who use the bow get a huge advantage in UHCs too, and although I know people mostly melee in Badlion UHCs, it is still used and everyone always has a stack or so. In UHCs in general, the bow is used a lot and people usually have multiple stacks of arrows on them. Limiting arrows, and therefore limiting bow fights (or bow usage in general) is just stupid and wouldn't really represent an actual UHC scenario.
    You're one of the best with the bow, and you should know how it can be beneficial in a fight. It doesn't make your match "cancerous", it gives whoever is better at it a HUGE and FAIR advantage.
    I like the blocks idea, the fns is fine I guess, and I think it'd be a good idea to have the same kb as our UHCs.


    LOL BuildUHC has always been a melee kit.
    If you think that rod is cancer, just try to play with 80-140 ms. Think of that people that hasn't got 20ms like 70% of bad players who can only go straight on without strafing or tapping with their 20ms and taking an easy combo of 5 or 6 hits. Rod is something that is clearly necessary to fight a dude with almost 50ms less than you. Rod let's you w-tap better and learning to use a rod is a very important skill in mc pvp. I don't think it's a bad thing in Build. In sg it's so stupid. Kids without life running like 1 or 2 minutes, or more, just to regen and rodding as fuck.
    Instead of, bowing is nice but not in a melee kit. It's not fair cause if you think in iron, a bow kit, if you go melee ur dumbo or just really bad. If there was a lower power in the bow, like diamond kit, that bowspamming there isn't a very important thing(Yes if you know when and how) build UHC kit would be funnier and more fair. So it's not funny to join a kit match to have some fun and kids like suchspeed just wall and bow. I want to have fun, and if I want to bowspam or get bowspammed, I go to archer, UHC, Iron or any bow kit. If I want to melee it's just going on BuildUHC. That was on s12. Now, With this kb, that is so strange and low, everyone just takes the bow and start annoying you behind a wall.Imo I would low the bow to power 2 and have like 48 arrows to make this kit more fair, funny and MeleeSkilled .
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    UVpickles wrote

    -1 to everything
    I always see you making stupid remarks on the forums even though you're staff
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    QD_iBlqzy wrote

    Nicosby wrote...



    LOL BuildUHC has always been a melee kit.
    If you think that rod is cancer, just try to play with 80-140 ms. Think of that people that hasn't got 20ms like 70% of bad players who can only go straight on without strafing or tapping with their 20ms and taking an easy combo of 5 or 6 hits. Rod is something that is clearly necessary to fight a dude with almost 50ms less than you. Rod let's you w-tap better and learning to use a rod is a very important skill in mc pvp. I don't think it's a bad thing in Build. In sg it's so stupid. Kids without life running like 1 or 2 minutes, or more, just to regen and rodding as fuck.
    Instead of, bowing is nice but not in a melee kit. It's not fair cause if you think in iron, a bow kit, if you go melee ur dumbo or just really bad. If there was a lower power in the bow, like diamond kit, that bowspamming there isn't a very important thing(Yes if you know when and how) build UHC kit would be funnier and more fair. So it's not funny to join a kit match to have some fun and kids like suchspeed just wall and bow. I want to have fun, and if I want to bowspam or get bowspammed, I go to archer, UHC, Iron or any bow kit. If I want to melee it's just going on BuildUHC. That was on s12. Now, With this kb, that is so strange and low, everyone just takes the bow and start annoying you behind a wall.Imo I would low the bow to power 2 and have like 48 arrows to make this kit more fair, funny and MeleeSkilled .

    How come I actually manage to kill Em 1s or very good rodders in general? You don't "need" the rod, but I understand how it can be useful. What you just said doesn't necessarily mean that the arrow count should be lowered.
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    Also, meleeing for you is fun, but for me it isn't as much as bowing
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    Nicosby wrote

    QD_iBlqzy wrote...


    How come I actually manage to kill Em 1s or very good rodders in general? You don't "need" the rod, but I understand how it can be useful. What you just said doesn't necessarily mean that the arrow count should be lowered.
    obviously because you bow spam, we established that the second you actually supported the current arrow quantity.
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    Nicosby wrote

    Also, meleeing for you is fun, but for me it isn't as much as bowing
    after like 10 seconds of going through your matches i already found these:
    https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/10375462
    https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/10375689

    why do you feel the need to bow spam when your opponent cant even be fucked bowing back ahahahahahaha
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    dicd wrote

    Nicosby wrote...

    after like 10 seconds of going through your matches i already found these:
    https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/10375462
    https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/10375689

    why do you feel the need to bow spam when your opponent cant even be fucked bowing back ahahahahahaha

    Uhm.. because I gain an advantage out of it which isn't as cheap as rodding?????????????
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    Nicosby wrote

    dicd wrote...


    Uhm.. because I gain an advantage out of it which isn't as cheap as rodding?????????????
    "isn't as cheap as rodding". I can't fathom how someone can become this delusional and cringy.

    rodding = takes skill
    bowing someone that isnt bowing back = takes no skill

    nice dude! sadly you'll soon only be able to bow someone who isnt bowing back with 32 arrows instead of 64. it's a hard knock life for puny bow spammers, isn't it?
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    dicd wrote

    rodding = takes skill
    bowing someone that isnt bowing back = takes no skill


    kek
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