Posted on 05 January 2017 - 10:11 PM

is that team for builduhc? because i only see 2 players that are decent on that roster, and not exactly for the right reasons.

Posted on 05 January 2017 - 10:16 PM

no, its not

Posted on 05 January 2017 - 10:18 PM

What lmao. I thought Bean is in Stride??

Posted on 05 January 2017 - 10:24 PM

Freek already said that he does not know whether or not certain players have cheated, including Bean. I already knew this, which is why I'm not so scared of sharing my opinion. Being a GCheat admin does not give him know-all power, otherwise I wouldn't have made this thread; freek would have already banned every single cheater and no innocent players. Not to mention, he said at least half of my post is true.Bean doesn't have a side. He just hates me. Freek is the only person replying that knows what he's talking about. You seem fail to understand that the title of this thread is NOT "Does Bean cheat?"

https://gyazo.com/38798ede20583be8488bde335f3a7f57

Last edited on 05 January 2017 - 10:25 PM by beangg

I was at most 2200 in build Emerald II 600 this season, littlelevi is Masters or 2450 last season, CutCleanffa was 2400 when he played, sabz101 is one of the best Australian pvpers along with Shaya, the 5 man teams are for kits which include Soup, Debuff, Build, UHC and SG, we are all around players that will most likely win every single AU/Asian competition.

Shaya's channel:



Sabz101 channel:



My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRRx0D7Y0S7uXIP8jdiJAiw

We are all around good players

Posted on 05 January 2017 - 10:31 PM

yes, littlelevi and littlecoop are the two players I was talking about, however littlecoop currently goes down in my book as "biggest lava spammer ever", and littlelevi is really good most of the time, but is inconsistent at times. i haven't played minecraft in about 4 months, however I beat littlelevi at my friend's house after being very rusty. the players in your clan who are good at potpvp will be terrible at builduhc.

Posted on 05 January 2017 - 10:33 PM

Im not bad at build as I said I was 2200 at one point, + Shaya and Sabz101 are good at build UHC too, its mostly about knowing how to play in a Team, and we seem to have good communication which is the most important in winning big events

Posted on 05 January 2017 - 10:33 PM

Freekkiller only half agreed with you. He replied to your points saying "True", but he still had to explain to you how shit actually works.

I know the title of this thread isn't "Does bean cheat". But think about it, Bean is a perfect example to use for a thread like this :v

Posted on 05 January 2017 - 10:37 PM

ye but people don't usually have the need to go on fucking alts and spam the shit out of someone hackusating them/telling them to kill them self. lol

Last edited on 05 January 2017 - 10:44 PM by iHackLiTE

I imagine you've been heavily traumatized by this yourself before, haven't you?

also, you need to look at the urban definition of "tool", i don't think you're familiar

Posted on 05 January 2017 - 10:46 PM

You people have tendencies to avert the discussion to off topic material.

Last edited on 05 January 2017 - 11:27 PM by Mattato

Please correct me if my summary of your post is incorrect:

- Cheater got unbanned too soon by freek
- 1st person evidence is useful, 3rd person evidence isn't
- Your report got denied, and you don't like that because you believe you are right
- You don't care what GCheat says because you were right regardless in one case

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I’m sorry, but just about everything you’ve said here is flawed. All you’ve told us is ‘I am right because GCheat was right; therefore you change your rules to accommodate me.’ Also, there's hardly any factual information in here either, its just you talking about yourself and a player that you think should be banned. I’m not going to bother disputing your evidence, but your logic and argument for it are flawed. Before I say that, though, I would like to say that I agree the appeal and punishment system is imperfect, however, thats where the similarities end:

(Oh also, I’m going to assume that the system is correct (aka, Freek knows what he is doing).)

I’d like to ask you a question: What is the point of Badlion? Why do players play on Badlion?
The primary reason is to have fun, correct?
So now lets look at this:



Okay, first of all, he got banned for a month, and then he got unbanned after freek looked at his evidence again, and now he is playing, and by what you’re saying he isn’t cheating anymore since he is getting drained all the time. …So why are you witch hunting him? If he is not cheating, is he breaking our rules in any way? Is he causing harm to the server? Is he doing anything that would warrant another ban? Pretty simple answer, no.



We don’t reference other players’ punishments when dealing with reports, and we do know that he wasn’t cheating because freek unbanned him or couldn’t prove any longer that he was cheating.



We can’t go off of popular players or “experienced players” telling us a player is cheating - That undermines the integrity of the Badlion appeal system.



This doesn’t even make any sense - Are you saying our senior staff and admins are inexperienced or ignorant? We recognize what bad evidence is - We also recognize that it is harder to ban off of first person evidence because there is no set standard. We have to be more cautious to be more consistent. The way the system right now allows for players to slip through the cracks in return for less false-banned players. Again, the system is imperfect, but you haven’t proposed a solution to it, you’re just saying what we already know, which is that it is imperfect.



If a player is a closet cheater and they manage to get through our appeal system, then they will probably cheat again, and get caught again. I’m confused. You just said: “I don’t care about the system that has banned hundreds of thousands of cheaters, and I don’t care about a Badlion administrator, who has been doing this for three years’, knowledge of how cheating works.” You’re saying that because the system was proven wrong and that you were in an instance correct, we should believe you and what you say wholeheartedly even though historically and statistically speaking, the way our system works is a whole lot more effective than your rant, which again, isn't proposing anything just telling us what we already know.

And lastly, I’d just like to talk about your attitude on forums. I understand that you’re acclaimed as the ‘best player on Badlion,' and a community hack catcher or something. But when you attempt to leverage any popularity you have with the community to create a post whining about a report of yours that got denied, you just look like an idiot. This whole post was a pointless rant that could have been summarized into your last five sentences. I understand having denied reports might stain your ego or something, but dude, grow up and recognize that there are reasons we have systems set in place and that we have administrators who can bypass these systems as they wish. Are you harmed? Is the integrity of the server harmed? Is the community harmed? Is anything except my time and everyone else's harmed in this entire situation?

It would be great if you could propose a solution instead of insulting the staff team and its processes - We’re all ears for solutions and ideas.

Last edited on 05 January 2017 - 11:52 PM by iHackLiTE

Alright, you've got the wrong idea on a lot of things.

First and most important, I am not insulting freek. I think he's a great staff, he's actually my favorite. And I'm not even really trying to single him out, either. I think all staff should be aware of the things I said, and it's not like I'm talking a bunch of shit because I'm mad.

I did not say I don't care about what GCheat says in general. I said that I do not care about what it says in this one particular case, as we are dealing with Armoda who survived many judgement days even though he's been cheating hard for a long time.

No, I did not say the staff are inexperienced and ignorant, I said that some players providing evidence are inexperienced at the game, and ignorant of how to record proper evidence.

Those three things being said, you've severely mistaken my "attitude". Just because I swear here and there doesn't mean I think Badlion is a load of shit. And I also did not claim to be the best, definitely not. In fact, I very clearly stated that most experienced players, not in anyway attempting to hint that I am the only experienced player, are able to very easily tell the difference between what is and isn't cheats. Badlion has a great system for most things, especially the anti-cheat and appeals system. I'm not even talking about the majority of cheaters, here. I'm talking about the very select few ghost clienters that GCheat has a hard time picking up on. I apologize if you find my attitude to be bashful, but it's not. The only way something can get better is if it fixes its flaws. I believe I've discussed a very valid flaw, and I'm sorry if you disagree. I'm not bashing Badlion. I'm pointing out what I believe to be a flaw so that it can become better, which is what I want to happen.

I apologize that you misinterpreted the point of my post, as most others did as well, but that was not my intention.

Edit:

Also, I'm not trying to convince Badlion to believe all the experienced players every single time. I'm trying to provide you with reasons and logic as to why I think you should better interpret evidence, rather than pass it off as "lag" and let a cheater go free.

And yeah, I don't like it when a cheater gets let loose. Excuse me!

Posted on 05 January 2017 - 11:48 PM

Man, O MAN! If this is what happens to you after playing ranked Arena PVP, then COUNT ME OUT!

Posted on 05 January 2017 - 11:50 PM

We can't all be winners, Bowser. Unfortunate, I know.

Posted on 05 January 2017 - 11:55 PM

TY. It's lonely being at the top like us dogs in TOP DOGS.

Last edited on 06 January 2017 - 12:56 AM by ISS

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Posted on 06 January 2017 - 02:32 AM

Okay, so you completely missed my point about how this entire this post is unnecessary and the nature of the punishment system, which invalidates everything you said.



You didn't discuss a flaw though, all you did was complain that freek didn't accept your report and how 1st person evidence is better than 3rd person evidence, which doesn't say anything because on Badlion we look at both 3rd person and 1st person POVs. Can you explain what flaw you've discussed?

Last edited on 06 January 2017 - 09:40 AM by Ryankoo1

Before reading, note that I've only read the thread and a few replies, so I may state things that's already been mentioned in other replies. I'm not taking sides, I just don't quite agree with some of the things @iHackLiTE thinks.



In a perfect world, where latency Doesn't exist, maybe these points would be factual. But unfortunately, latency does exist and it's importance in pvp can't be disregarded. My point is, these points you've made couldn't be further from the truth. As an AU player myself, I've quite literally without exaggeration been hit from 30+ blocks before on american servers where we get terrible latency. Now admittedly that is an extreme example which happens very rarely, the point I'm trying to get across is that legit combos will not always 'both look and feel legit'. I've played well over 10,000 matches with over 250ms, and quite often I'll get comboed which by your definition "look and feel impossible", as you can see in this video
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My moral of the story,

Is this community infested with cheaters? Yes.

Does that mean a player with abnormal reach is cheating? maybe.

Does that mean you should hackusate? Unless you are 100% objectively sure, no.

Posted on 06 January 2017 - 09:46 AM

You can only be hit from 6 blocks.
Unless they use tp aura but on Badlion tp aura get's fucked up really quicky.