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MMr vs Elo What does the LOYAL community want.

Posted on 08 January 2017 - 03:30 PM

RetrosStackOfFov wrote

TS720p wrote...



Still, He might have fought some diamonds or emeralds but if you look at his masters video, he rekt everyone simply because they were bronzes/silvers/golds
I wouldn't upload videos of me having long boring and sweaty fights against emeralds and diamonds. Don't think anyone would.
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Posted on 08 January 2017 - 03:30 PM

I'm not asking for elo back . . .
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Posted on 08 January 2017 - 03:32 PM

Good point.

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Posted on 08 January 2017 - 04:19 PM

Also, I've been playing Badlion for 2 years with ELO and I think the change to MMR was much needed.
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Posted on 08 January 2017 - 06:37 PM

RetrosStackOfFov wrote

TS720p wrote...



Still, He might have fought some diamonds or emeralds but if you look at his masters video, he rekt everyone simply because they were bronzes/silvers/golds
He can fight good players

https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/6965441
https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/12957014
https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/12332355
https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/10009096
https://www.badlion.net/match/arenapvp/1v1/5661417
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Posted on 08 January 2017 - 07:01 PM

elo is best mmr is wiener gang
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Posted on 08 January 2017 - 08:32 PM

TS720p wrote

RetrosStackOfFov wrote...

I wouldn't upload videos of me having long boring and sweaty fights against emeralds and diamonds. Don't think anyone would.


So upload people who are 6 times worse than you?
Speedily ( Pretty sure he got up to 2600 build elo in Season 12) is fighting people that are possibly worse than 1400
That system is worse than elo
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Posted on 08 January 2017 - 08:42 PM

RetrosStackOfFov wrote

TS720p wrote...



So upload people who are 6 times worse than you?
Speedily ( Pretty sure he got up to 2600 build elo in Season 12) is fighting people that are possibly worse than 1400
That system is worse than elo
he was playing at 5am or something since he internet was Shit during the day.
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Posted on 08 January 2017 - 08:55 PM

RetrosStackOfFov wrote

TS720p wrote...



So upload people who are 6 times worse than you?
Speedily ( Pretty sure he got up to 2600 build elo in Season 12) is fighting people that are possibly worse than 1400
That system is worse than elo
You just said he had 2600 Elo in S12, yet you are still trying to argue that he got it from grinding silvers and bronzes. You couldn't really do that with elo so i dont know what you are trying to say.
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Posted on 08 January 2017 - 09:08 PM

RetrosStackOfFov wrote

TS720p wrote...



So upload people who are 6 times worse than you?
Speedily ( Pretty sure he got up to 2600 build elo in Season 12) is fighting people that are possibly worse than 1400
That system is worse than elo
speedily was a 2500 never 2600
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Posted on 08 January 2017 - 09:58 PM

RetrosStackOfFov wrote

Elo because at least people at 2700 elo cant fight people at 1500 elo range


That has nothing to do with MMR, that's the design of a matchmaker
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Posted on 08 January 2017 - 10:07 PM

Jarecl wrote

RetrosStackOfFov wrote...

speedily was a 2500 never 2600
this is what you take from what he said
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Posted on 09 January 2017 - 02:31 AM

I think @Hivlik brings up a very good point. I believe, as do many others, that you guys have done extensive research and that MMR likely has a number of advantages over ELO; however it is really difficult to fully convince ourselves of that without knowing how the MMR system works. The numbers (x/1000) helped some but it still seems as though the whole formula is being hidden behind a lot of vague phrases and mystery that ultimately make it harder for members of the community to convince ourselves that this is the optimal system. A more clear explanation of the math and components of the "MMR formula" would help quite a bit.
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Posted on 09 January 2017 - 03:55 AM

Unshift wrote

Jarecl wrote...

this is what you take from what he said
yup
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Posted on 09 January 2017 - 03:59 AM

Ny_ wrote

I think @Hivlik brings up a very good point. I believe, as do many others, that you guys have done extensive research and that MMR likely has a number of advantages over ELO; however it is really difficult to fully convince ourselves of that without knowing how the MMR system works. The numbers (x/1000) helped some but it still seems as though the whole formula is being hidden behind a lot of vague phrases and mystery that ultimately make it harder for members of the community to convince ourselves that this is the optimal system. A more clear explanation of the math and components of the "MMR formula" would help quite a bit.
clearer*

also, idk why archy has gotta be so secretive about the formula he always has been since the start

plus ur in contagion nice
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Posted on 09 January 2017 - 04:05 AM

Jarecl wrote

Ny_ wrote...

clearer*

also, idk why archy has gotta be so secretive about the formula he always has been since the start

plus ur in contagion nice


No company ever discloses how their MMR systems work exactly.
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Posted on 09 January 2017 - 04:26 AM

MasterGberry wrote

Jarecl wrote...



No company ever discloses how their MMR systems work exactly.
gberry why r u up at 4 am?
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Posted on 09 January 2017 - 05:35 AM

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Posted on 09 January 2017 - 05:50 AM

Panda_Chips wrote

Jarecl wrote...

He's in Europe with his girlfriend, probably 10 am when he posted that
y u up at 5:30 am?
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Posted on 09 January 2017 - 05:53 AM

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