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What happened to potion?
I've been trying to queue debuff today and I was literally tilting over how long it took to get into a match - at one point I was just sitting there in spawn for 5 minutes in the queue typing 'ranked debuff' in the chat every half a minute. When I finally did get some matches, they were just unranked randoms that potted while running backwards and I was wasting my ranked matches queuing for ages and finishing fights in <30 seconds. After a few matches, I just couldn't get into another one, nobody was even in game. Then I looked over at the ranked BuildUHC queue, which of course was filled with people, over 250 people were in game.

Here's my question: Why does nobody on this server like potion anymore, back in 2015 it was thriving but now it's completely dead and everyone obsesses over BuildUHC, why?
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Everyone left the queue because they were too scared to fight you :/
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badlions pot isnt as good as compared to other servers so most people just moved on to dif servers to play pot.
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Bladian wrote

Because even though Badlion's good at many things, they're absolute shit at pot.

Potion players play on other servers which are deemed to be better, and I kind of agree with.

Just my opinion though.
Absolutely shit at pot? The server's probably the best out there right now. You are gonna get raped by a cheater every other fight on any other server. Badlion doesn't even have pot lag, it's every other server increating pot velocity so that it registers at an unrealistic rate. How is it badlion's fault for wanting to keep competitive pvp as vanilla as possible?
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TS720p wrote

Bladian wrote...

Absolutely shit at pot? The server's probably the best out there right now. You are gonna get raped by a cheater every other fight on any other server. Badlion doesn't even have pot lag, it's every other server increating pot velocity so that it registers at an unrealistic rate. How is it badlion's fault for wanting to keep competitive pvp as vanilla as possible?
this server has the most vertical pot KB I have ever seen. It's not pot reg that people are complaining about, it's the KB. It's pretty shit. Archybot said that he would use Badlion's KB for non-speed, and Kohi's KB for speed II, but he didn't keep his word.
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Jarecl wrote

TS720p wrote...

this server has the most vertical pot KB I have ever seen. It's not pot reg that people are complaining about, it's the KB. It's pretty shit. Archybot said that he would use Badlion's KB for non-speed, and Kohi's KB for speed II, but he didn't keep his word.
The kb is honestly fine. Any other server's kb makes you float around like a balloon and it doesn't feel right. It's the people playing with ~200ms's kb that is what is making you guys think the kb is shit, when in reality you are just fighting a ton of laggy people.
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TS720p wrote

Jarecl wrote...

The kb is honestly fine. Any other server's kb makes you float around like a balloon and it doesn't feel right. It's the people playing with ~200ms's kb that is what is making you guys think the kb is shit, when in reality you are just fighting a ton of laggy people.

The pot KB on this server isn't bad at all, but what I have noticed recently is that I get frequent bursts of connection lag on Badlion that I never get anywhere else and if I get these when i'm at low health in potion I usually unfreeze having been crit out and killed, it gets insanely annoying.
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the only reason i play badlion's pot over another server's pot is because of gcheat. any other pot server is FLOODED with cheaters
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Qdqm wrote

TS720p wrote...


The pot KB on this server isn't bad at all, but what I have noticed recently is that I get frequent bursts of connection lag on Badlion that I never get anywhere else and if I get these when i'm at low health in potion I usually unfreeze having been crit out and killed, it gets insanely annoying.
Yea those have been happening a lot to random parts of the world at certain times, seems to have fixed for me at least.
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TS720p wrote

Jarecl wrote...

The kb is honestly fine. Any other server's kb makes you float around like a balloon and it doesn't feel right. It's the people playing with ~200ms's kb that is what is making you guys think the kb is shit, when in reality you are just fighting a ton of laggy people.


IMO the speed 2 kb isn't very good. theres been countless amounts of threads coming from old kohi players complaining about the kb. archy has said that there isnt too much more he can do for the speed2 kb on badlion open.
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TS720p wrote

Jarecl wrote...

The kb is honestly fine. Any other server's kb makes you float around like a balloon and it doesn't feel right. It's the people playing with ~200ms's kb that is what is making you guys think the kb is shit, when in reality you are just fighting a ton of laggy people.

The kb is literal shit for pot. There's literally no way you can argue for it being good unless you've started playing pot only this month.
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heres a good example, i remember dagoldbrick from old kohi. he also thinks this kb is awful for potion pvp. i agree with him. im sure you could ask any other experienced kohi players and they will all say the same thing.
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Qdqm wrote

I've been trying to queue debuff today and I was literally tilting over how long it took to get into a match - at one point I was just sitting there in spawn for 5 minutes in the queue typing 'ranked debuff' in the chat every half a minute. When I finally did get some matches, they were just unranked randoms that potted while running backwards and I was wasting my ranked matches queuing for ages and finishing fights in <30 seconds. After a few matches, I just couldn't get into another one, nobody was even in game. Then I looked over at the ranked BuildUHC queue, which of course was filled with people, over 250 people were in game.

Here's my question: Why does nobody on this server like potion anymore, back in 2015 it was thriving but now it's completely dead and everyone obsesses over BuildUHC, why?

Because pot PvP requires raw skill whereas build you can just spam rod and hop around on blocks
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DaGoldBrick wrote

TS720p wrote...


The kb is literal shit for pot. There's literally no way you can argue for it being good unless you've started playing pot only this month.

It's nothing close to prime for pot, you're right, but compared to servers such as lounge where nobody moves, it's not terrible here.
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DaGoldBrick wrote

TS720p wrote...


The kb is literal shit for pot. There's literally no way you can argue for it being good unless you've started playing pot only this month.
Been playing since s8
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Qdqm wrote

DaGoldBrick wrote...


It's nothing close to prime for pot, you're right, but compared to servers such as lounge where nobody moves, it's not terrible here.

Both lounge and badlion have shit kb, one of the most important parts of pot is movement, which is ripped away on both servers because of terrible knockback. Lounge still has the slightest bit of kb so you can get occasional combos that you should always be getting, but on badlion you have no chance. Most people can't aim on here with speed 2 yet they still take no kb even if they're staring 180 degrees in the other direction.
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TS720p wrote

DaGoldBrick wrote...

Been playing since s8

And when did you actually become decent? No decent pot pvper would agree with the kb badlion has now.
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