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What happened to potion?
You don't play badlion for pot pvp nowadays lmao, why care about such a small percentage of the community anyways when there is a much larger casual community to cater to?
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DaGoldBrick wrote

TS720p wrote...


And when did you actually become decent? No decent pot pvper would agree with the kb badlion has now.
Tell that to everyone on the nodebuff, debuff, vanilla, gapple, and soup leaderboards. I'm top 15 on at least all of them and friends with 90% of the people above me. They all think it's perfectly fine. And don't just say it's bad cause your god stimpy or some other famous pvper says it's bad. Stop trying to fit in with the group that hates it for no reason and try to realize exactly what's so "bad about it".
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Basically what TS720p said. People try to fit in with the group that hate it because they get caught cheating on Badlion. They prefer other servers because the servers mess up the pot velocity and call it "better pot registration".
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TS720p wrote

Bladian wrote...

Absolutely shit at pot? The server's probably the best out there right now. You are gonna get raped by a cheater every other fight on any other server. Badlion doesn't even have pot lag, it's every other server increating pot velocity so that it registers at an unrealistic rate. How is it badlion's fault for wanting to keep competitive pvp as vanilla as possible?


It is bad for pot, sorry. When premium comes out this will probably change but at the moment its shit. The server has such unstable kb, fighting laggers is near impossible as their kb doesn't stack up like it should. Overall its just brick-wall pvp with the current kb
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_Happykitten_ wrote

TS720p wrote...



It is bad for pot, sorry. When premium comes out this will probably change but at the moment its shit. The server has such unstable kb, fighting laggers is near impossible as their kb doesn't stack up like it should. Overall its just brick-wall pvp with the current kb


100% agree. In its current state it feels incredibly inconsistent to me.
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ElvenKing09 wrote

Basically what TS720p said. People try to fit in with the group that hate it because they get caught cheating on Badlion. They prefer other servers because the servers mess up the pot velocity and call it "better pot registration".


I'm sure a lot of the people on speed2 leaderboards didn't play Kohi actively when it was in its prime and everyone was happy with the kb (~2 years ago). If they had played then they would realize how the current speed2 kb lowers the skill ceiling by quite a bit, imo it ruins movement like dagoldbrick said which plays a huge part in being good in pot pvp.
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In my opinion the kb isn't good. No server at the moment has good kb and there hasn't been a server with good pot kb since kohi. The kb on badlion isn't terrible aside from everyone being bricks and taking like no kb but it's the best kb badlion has had in the last year and a half or so. My overall view is that it's playable and to play on lounge or something is going to be basically queing a cheater every other fight which is worse for the playing experience. My main issue about the kb is the lack of kb and how every pot and gapple fight ends up being a chicken fight to see who can get the most double hits. When you can basically crit a whole fight and have a good chance at winning with good aim is probably one of the most notable problems. The pot registration is pretty bad tbh. There is some delay and it makes it extremely hard to pot fast and consistently hit your pot unlike on lounge or other servers. The pot experience on badlion isn't perfect and the last time pot felt right for me on a server was with kohi because they had very little pot lag and really good kb. Badlion pot is playable but not the best or most enjoyable experience.
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ElvenKing09 wrote

People try to fit in with the group that hate it because they get caught cheating on Badlion.


What do you mean?

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ItzUrBoi wrote

In my opinion the kb isn't good. No server at the moment has good kb and there hasn't been a server with good pot kb since kohi. The kb on badlion isn't terrible aside from everyone being bricks and taking like no kb but it's the best kb badlion has had in the last year and a half or so. My overall view is that it's playable and to play on lounge or something is going to be basically queing a cheater every other fight which is worse for the playing experience. My main issue about the kb is the lack of kb and how every pot and gapple fight ends up being a chicken fight to see who can get the most double hits. When you can basically crit a whole fight and have a good chance at winning with good aim is probably one of the most notable problems. The pot registration is pretty bad tbh. There is some delay and it makes it extremely hard to pot fast and consistently hit your pot unlike on lounge or other servers. The pot experience on badlion isn't perfect and the last time pot felt right for me on a server was with kohi because they had very little pot lag and really good kb. Badlion pot is playable but not the best or most enjoyable experience.


I agree.
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KATAMIRO wrote

You don't play badlion for pot pvp nowadays lmao, why care about such a small percentage of the community anyways when there is a much larger casual community to cater to?


This is how you kill a community which still, as you said exists and is small, pot pvp players don't have a small community at all and the community was here from years ago, would be a shame to just get rid of potion pvp so you sweats can have your build uhc where you shoot all 64 arrows because its fun to bowspam and play like your life is on the line
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KATAMIRO wrote

You don't play badlion for pot pvp nowadays lmao, why care about such a small percentage of the community anyways when there is a much larger casual community to cater to?

Every other server is shit in general, Badlion potion may be unenjoyable but it's cheater free and that's not something I take for granted
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cba to get involved in stupid arguments anymore
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iHackLiTE wrote

badlion is the best there is right now for pot tbh

valux used to be amazing but then they fucked up their kb and their anticheat rubberbands you when you blockhit, and its got a few cheaters that never get banned because they rely on out of date screensharing tools that are easily bypassed. the staff are also all two faced and trash at their jobs

lounge had OK kb and the elo reset was fun, i even got #1, then they changed the host and i get 100ms and theres also server lagspikes a lot where the entire server starts spamming lag so now its just awful and its always been filled with cheaters too.

vexir is straight up the worst server ive ever joined. they changed the kb to make it look like youre holding space when trading because the verticle kb is so bad. they changed pot velocity to make idiots think their connection is good. they made it so you always get 100% potency even if you barely land a pot, to make idiots think there no bad pot reg. i splashed a poison at someone's feet from four blocks away and then i got 33'd. ive also yet to see a staff online

opticcraft is a joke and so are all the hcf/practice mix servers

there is nothing wrong with badlion pot. people just dont like the kb because you "cant get wtap combos" which isnt true because they just havent gotten used to the kb. its very easy to get the same wtap effect that you would on other pot servers. people just dont want to take the time to try badlion pot because they either get gcheated or they hop on and lose to someone like me who they think is trash and just gets pissed off because they lost to someone on badlion and they think they can glide to high rating with ease. all the pot players that played badlion back in the day are all still willing to play badlion and are excited for premium. somet of the people arguing in this thread need to be quiet because some of you have 1000 build matches or no matches at all, so your opinion is invalid

I'm just praying that premium will fix the pot registration and consistency of the hits
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TS720p wrote

DaGoldBrick wrote...

Tell that to everyone on the nodebuff, debuff, vanilla, gapple, and soup leaderboards. I'm top 15 on at least all of them and friends with 90% of the people above me. They all think it's perfectly fine. And don't just say it's bad cause your god stimpy or some other famous pvper says it's bad. Stop trying to fit in with the group that hates it for no reason and try to realize exactly what's so "bad about it".


LOL -> acting like it's an achievement to even be top 5 in pot ladders nowadays



Look at the kb in that video, it's 100x better than the piece of shit it is now. I've also known stimpy since before he had 500 subs so fuck off random :^)

You're so retarded, I literally explained why the kb is shit. I could still fuck you up and everyone on pot leaderboards despite the kb if none if you seem to understand that movement is actually a part of pot.


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DaGoldBrick wrote

TS720p wrote...



LOL -> acting like it's an achievement to even be top 5 in pot ladders nowadays



Look at the kb in that video, it's 100x than the piece of shit it is now. I've also known stimpy since before he had 500 subs so fuck off random :^)

You're so retarded, I literally explained why the kb is shit. I could still fuck you up and everyone on pot leaderboards despite the kb if none if you seem to understand that movement is actually a part of pot.



oh god
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Everytime i see a leaderboard from another server i just see @Archybot marking 80%+ of the top leaderboards with bans on Badlion. The potion community is the original ghost client community, even back during 1.6 pvp on Badlion there were private ghost clients floating around before they hit mainstream.
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MasterGberry wrote

Everytime i see a leaderboard from another server i just see @Archybot marking 80%+ of the top leaderboards with bans on Badlion. The potion community is the original ghost client community, even back during 1.6 pvp on Badlion there were private ghost clients floating around before they hit mainstream.

The potion community has always had its flaws but it's horrible now and I can understand that, but the potion gamemode itself has always been my favourite and it's the only thing I played when I started on this server 2 and a half years ago, I am just wondering why nobody on Badlion likes it anymore when it used to be thriving
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MasterGberry wrote

Everytime i see a leaderboard from another server i just see @Archybot marking 80%+ of the top leaderboards with bans on Badlion. The potion community is the original ghost client community, even back during 1.6 pvp on Badlion there were private ghost clients floating around before they hit mainstream.

Kind of curious about the ghost clients in 1.6. The only person I've known to use something remote to a ghost client in 1.6 and before was StanMPL, I wouldn't be surprised if people like Cayden were using them but how did you catch the people using private ghost clients in 1.6?
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DaGoldBrick wrote

MasterGberry wrote...


Kind of curious about the ghost clients in 1.6. The only person I've known to use something remote to a ghost client in 1.6 and before was StanMPL, I wouldn't be surprised if people like Cayden were using them but how did you catch the people using private ghost clients in 1.6?

Ghostclients back then were really shitty, sad fucks such as itstene would spend hundreds of pounds for a blatant Minecraft aimbot and autoclicker without a GUI that could easily be detected GCheat wise or by moderators, but then again this was in 1.7, idk if much changed from 1.6 to then
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Qdqm wrote

DaGoldBrick wrote...


Ghostclients back then were really shitty, sad fucks such as itstene would spend hundreds of pounds for a blatant Minecraft aimbot and autoclicker without a GUI that could easily be detected GCheat wise or by moderators, but then again this was in 1.7, idk if much changed from 1.6 to then

GCheat didn't exist in 1.6 and itstene etc didn't come around until 1.7
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