Posted on 01 February 2017 - 05:49 PM

1. The owners made choices best for the server, Maybe not all the players agreed with thosr but oh well. Take MMR for example, people dont like it but for badlion to even have a small chance to go more competitive ELO had to be replaced to due to its faults. MMR maybe be slightly more complicated but in the long run its a necessary change for badlion to have a greater chance at expansion. The queue system may not be entirely perfect but it is running well and most accurately assuming the correct amount of players are on the server.

2. Saying premium is an excuse is deplorable, That is not at all what it is. Badlion premium is a revolutionary client that will greatly bring the idea of official tournaments into the scene as well as stop Nearly all cheaters on the server. You say ghost clients are being updated and bypassing gcheat yet you dont know the technical side of premium, you have no room to talk it down yet.

3. "You know what else is not coming back on your server? Those 10k players. You're ignoring good ideas and approve the retarded ones like sg 2.1 and the arena kb being good. I don't know what was so hard to keep s11 / 12. The funny part of this whole story is that you're joking about server being shit without looking at your own server. I think that's why it became shit and you put a limited amount of unranked matches, right? Because it brings no more money to you anymore. That's why you invented Badlion Premium and used is as an excuse. Premium will be clear for max 1 month but after that somebody will find out a new sort of ghost client that your anti cheat won't find and it will become as trash as the public server is now. If you want to say that the public Badlion is without hackers then look at the leader boards. Who the fuck are those kids? SkyAlt played till Diamond and then got banned manuel ( Not GCheated ) while using blatant settings."
You say this off of emotion and feeling rather than reason and logic, The argument here is invalid. SG 2.1 and arena kb are both being heavily improved whether you can see it or not. The arena knockback was actually quite better after season 11 and 12, It may not be the same of what you are used to however technically it is a greater work. To say that the owners are not looking at their own server is completely wrong, They spend hours every day working for their server and although they may do some controversial choices they are good in the long run.
No one said badlion was without hackers, Where did you find that? Badlion has hackers and people know that, GCheat is not perfect. It can make mistakes and have its faults and thats why the staff are here, to get the punishments GCheat misses. Saying that premium will last a month without hackers is very biased and not thoughtful. You do not know how hard the developers have worked and how much time they have put into the client, Its not even released yet so what makes you think you know how it will work? The client will be superior to GCheat and almost no one has any true idea how the technical side if it will work so you cannot talk down upon it yet.

4. "It's no wonder that players like Danteh and Doe left the game. Danteh who was the best player in s12 got only gold 1 this season before resetting his stats and randys like 90exe and other 9 year olds are masters. It makes no sense. When Badlion was great the leaderboards were the same for 2-3 seasons. The server started getting down after s12. If you want back those 10k players, better do something with your server or it will die faster than mcsg. I don't wanna talk about the kb and hit reg being shit because the staff players who play arena know that really well. If you're gonna keep ignoring the good ideas and approve the ones from the 1200 elo / silver IV players, good luck to make your server better than MCSG was."
Danteh and Doe did not leave MC because of cheaters and stats, Thats very untrue. Danteh left due to a lack of interest for the game and he moved to overwatch because he enjoyed it more. He would rather play that game for fun thatn make himself play this game instead. Doe, He never actually liked the game overall, He only really played because his computer would not allow other games. He quit playing because he never truly loved the game, He played because he had no choice and he accounted that on his twitter.
To say Badlion will die faster than MCSG is far off and completely wrong in wording. MCSG died because the owner gave up on the server and so did the staff. The staff team stopped caring and they had plenty of internal issues that broke them apart. MCSG also was losing money at a very heavy rate while badlion is not, Badlion is doing far better. Badlion is still growing as a server and will continue so for a decent amount of time at least. It will not fault the same as MCSG did because the staff are smarter and know how to avoid said mistakes.

You have talked about Badlion as if it is dying however, that is not the case. The server is still growing and gaining players, maybe the rate has slowed down but oh well. Badlion is making great moved to push for competitiveness and will bring minecraft into the competitive world if it ever does happen. When taking to an argument like this, Always remember that logic and facts will prove greather than emotian and bias. Also always do research before presenting for a controversial issues such as this.

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 05:57 PM

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Posted on 01 February 2017 - 06:01 PM

I guess I'm part of that 1%

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 06:14 PM

I just spit out my water

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 06:45 PM

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Posted on 01 February 2017 - 06:59 PM

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Posted on 01 February 2017 - 07:01 PM

all they do is cheat lmao

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 07:10 PM

When I play at peak times during the weekend, it goes to 5-6k players. Badlion is not dead LOL. The only thing dead here is your post and ur account.












JK DONT BAN ME!

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 07:47 PM

i don't see the problem everyone has with mmr

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 07:54 PM

The problem everyone has with it is that it isn't called Elo.

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 08:12 PM

If someone can find me a reasonably decent argument why Elo is better than I will gladly change my opinion, but it won't happen.

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 08:15 PM

I guess people liked the fact that elo rewarded consistency more since losses to lower ranked players were harsh.

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 08:54 PM

How does showing a consistency of beating 1400's define skill

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 08:57 PM

Personally I think that Arena is a little laggy, making everyone think "the kb changed, this server sucks." Keep in mind, this server runs support for all versions 1.7+ (not sure if that makes a server laggy) and is running an anticheat far superior to any server.

MMR? Keep it.

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 09:04 PM

At the same time, winning against lowered ranked players was good and easy to grind off of. It makes it absurdly easy comparatively.

Don't get me wrong, I actually argued for Elo for a while. Elo is a good system. It rewards consistency, and has a lot of theory behind it (if someone wins 31 times and the other person wins 1, then there will be an approximately 600 Elo difference). It values being able to win/lose a certain amount, which is a huge benefit. However, due to Minecraft having a lot to do with hackers, it doesn't make sense for someone to get drained that much. Also, Elo won't work for PUG. Also, grinding off 1300s just isn't fair. There are a lot of benefits to using MMR, but I think the most important one is how malleable it is. There are a lot of game modes on Badlion; it's just dumb to have an Elo system there, an MMR system there, and some other stuff chucked in. Its nicer to have one system which can be used for everything; Elo is not compatible with FFA or PUG.

Last edited on 01 February 2017 - 09:09 PM by Jmqcc

Why should that matter? Are you implying that the opinion of those who are less skill full mater less? Wtf does your aim, and cps have anything to do with your knowledge of math and statistics?

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 10:01 PM

Whatever you're testing I don't think it's working my guy

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 10:32 PM

Alright, Everyone on the leaderboard. I prefer MMR I'm not bad at the game. Maybe it's just you.

Posted on 01 February 2017 - 10:54 PM

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Posted on 01 February 2017 - 11:03 PM

LOL