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Reasons To Keep Horse and Vanilla
I would not remove vanilla because it's classic and actually a lot of fun. On the other hand for horse I would replace it with a different kit. I'm just throwing ideas out, but, I think it would be good practice if horse kit was a race where you hit targets, and the first one to hit all the targets and pass the finish line wins. It's pretty random but I think it would be fun.
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drop horse lets get skywars back ya
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HIVLIK wrote

drop horse lets get skywars back ya

-1 on removing Horse
+1 on skywars
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vanilla can be annoying at sometimes, especially with the punch on bows and other enchants that can be added
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Keep vanilla, just remove rods and bows
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Ikr they both should stay. But you should be able to get out of your horse
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SirDeadly wrote

Ikr they both should stay. But you should be able to get out of your horse

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Horse needs to go. Vanilla does not. @freekkiller what are your thoughts?
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ProgressiveHouse wrote

Horse needs to go. Vanilla does not. @freekkiller what are your thoughts?

Horse doesn't but yeah
@freekkiller
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I myself love vanilla, but should it really stay? In my opinion it can go. It is the least played queue.

Regarding horse, I recall that everyone wanted that, but to be honest, horse 1v1 fighting is just unbalanced and is more so dictated by lag than actual skill. You just sprint past each other, hitting your opponent once, then doing it over and over again. I'm sure people will disagree with me, but there is a reason this queue is unpopular
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freekkiller wrote

I myself love vanilla, but should it really stay? In my opinion it can go. It is the least played queue.

Regarding horse, I recall that everyone wanted that, but to be honest, horse 1v1 fighting is just unbalanced and is more so dictated by lag than actual skill. You just sprint past each other, hitting your opponent once, then doing it over and over again. I'm sure people will disagree with me, but there is a reason this queue is unpopular

I agree with the Horse part. I mean Vanilla can be a fun gamemode if Bow was removed and Rod because if bow is removed rodspamming will still be a thing. Remove both and let's see how many play the game, I can list 3 Gamemodes that aren't being played and yet the owners are still keeping in S15

Mind asking GBerry or Archy about this. I'd love to see these games in S15
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I actually can't play horse cause of my lag, so I don't know how lag gives a person an advantage. I have nothing to say about Vanilla cause I've only played it 2 times and I just don't like it. I'm all for adding kits, but maybe removing these kits from ranked is the right thing to do. I pity the people going for global supremacy that have to play both horse and vanilla.
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Do not like both those ladder but I'd like to see new ladders instead of them if they dissapear
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notEmendings wrote

freekkiller wrote...


I agree with the Horse part. I mean Vanilla can be a fun gamemode if Bow was removed and Rod because if bow is removed rodspamming will still be a thing. Remove both and let's see how many play the game, I can list 3 Gamemodes that aren't being played and yet the owners are still keeping in S15

Mind asking GBerry or Archy about this. I'd love to see these games in S15


Since you're not admin and don't have access to the log, u don't rly know what kit is played or not, but anyway u were just gonna say that debuff,ironsoup and gapple which is pretty useless to say
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