you've never even logged on MineHQ LUL

I mean you played like 2 matches and logged off lol

How do you know that I just played two matches? Stop assuming things.

BL SG has huge numbers and rivals Hypixel's SG numbers during NA and beats them during EU.
Our Hosted UHC numbers are still the highest.
We are the largest Arena server, no other server including hypixel comes close.
UHCM is the largest meetup sim
BL CTW is the largest CTW server currently and it's been out for under 3 days
CTF/SW/Rush were literally released for premium, they were never expected to succeed initially on open.
MiniUHC + UHC6 reworks are in the works
Season 15 is also being worked on

No one cares about premium because:
1. It's a very closed beta
2. They've tested it out, done their part, and now are waiting
3. You can't gain money on beta currently
4. Stats will be wiped
5. ESL/sponsors/business partners have put 0 effort into advertising until it's ready

Premium is literally just there currently for our testing/information gathering until 0.9.6, where you'll see an increase in usage.

Ontop of the other posts here, I don't see the issues here. Paid features are always going to be more successful then free services when it comes to promising the features. Client side anticheat programming is a daily feature, and if it's not bringing in money it will get bypassed and they won't be able to keep up. ESL/TEO has an anticheat team larger then most network's whole development team, and on top of that they all have formal education of varying degrees and most of them have been working on cheats, anticheats, and security for over a decade.

The free versus paid (and badlion will have free features inside of BAC, so it's more like half and half) doesn't work when it comes to anything. Let's look at CSGO for example. The more you spend, the better quality you get. Can anyone name a single free anticheat that is top tier, like actually top tier?

To the rumors of Premium being bypassed - there are no confirmed cases at all (we haven't issued a single ban on premium yet for those like hurr durr I bypassed). One case is someone claiming they bypassed security on open when security isn't even enabled, and every other one we've looked into is fake external clients to scam idiots for money. We know this is the case because when a hacking community figures out a gcheat check, you hear more and more about the detection method. We haven't heard shit about any layer of security other then the common sense ones that non-developers know about, and there is some really obnoxious shit that hackers/developers would really be complaining about if they were actually making ANY progress.

To finish it off, I don't really care about it. The fact that they are allowing custom mods shows me enough about it's security. If players in CSGO can hack through steam's official modding API, then you better believe allowing mods is going to be a huge security risk in a game with full source code available. Nothing is free in life, remember that. Side note, even if this gets any traction outside of the already dying potionpvp community, mojang will come in and hammer MineHQ pretty hard for their incredibly anti-EULA store (reduced deathbans, lives, unbans, etc) and then they will be forced to start charging for it anyways. Mojang doesn't really care about small servers, and in reality that is what MineHQ currently is. If they grow to anywhere near BL's size they will show up on Mojang's radar, and they will lose most of their income once Mojang comes after them.

In the end, two things are going to happen:
1. It will not be ring0, and any decent programmer (very few of those in MC) will be able to bypass it with some work. Eventually the clients will be unable to be detected without ring0 and then we move onto #2.
2. It will be ring0, but it won't be able to match ESL/ESEA/TEO's ability as it's professional industry-hardened developers versus a bunch of "minecraft coders" and it'll eventually just be a place where cheaters play when they get banned on BAC, just like most potion servers are where banned BL players play and nothing changes.

Also, as much of a friend of jhalts I am, you have the fact that most people who know MineHQ's past will not feel safe installing a ring0 client on their computer that jhalt has access to. I know I'll be forbidding any BL staff from installing it.

In closing, I do wish them the best as they have the same overall goal and that's to really crack down on the cheating and attempt to legitimize PvP in Minecraft. I definitely will not be releasing bypasses for it to anyone, but I'll probably show me doing it once when I get bored one day (without the method shown) once just to really stick it to some of the developers (a lot of them are cheat developers which have caused this problem, so it'll be good to give them some grief back).

BL SG has huge numbers and rivals Hypixel's SG numbers during NA and beats them during EU.
Our Hosted UHC numbers are still the highest.
We are the largest Arena server, no other server including hypixel comes close.
UHCM is the largest meetup sim
BL CTW is the largest CTW server currently and it's been out for under 3 days
CTF/SW/Rush were literally released for premium, they were never expected to succeed initially on open.
MiniUHC + UHC6 reworks are in the works
Season 15 is also being worked on

No one cares about premium because:
1. It's a very closed beta
2. They've tested it out, done their part, and now are waiting
3. You can't gain money on beta currently
4. Stats will be wiped
5. ESL/sponsors/business partners have put 0 effort into advertising until it's ready

Premium is literally just there currently for our testing/information gathering until 0.9.6, where you'll see an increase in usage.

Ontop of the other posts here, I don't see the issues here. Paid features are always going to be more successful then free services when it comes to promising the features. Client side anticheat programming is a daily feature, and if it's not bringing in money it will get bypassed and they won't be able to keep up. ESL/TEO has an anticheat team larger then most network's whole development team, and on top of that they all have formal education of varying degrees and most of them have been working on cheats, anticheats, and security for over a decade.

The free versus paid (and badlion will have free features inside of BAC, so it's more like half and half) doesn't work when it comes to anything. Let's look at CSGO for example. The more you spend, the better quality you get. Can anyone name a single free anticheat that is top tier, like actually top tier?

To the rumors of Premium being bypassed - there are no confirmed cases at all (we haven't issued a single ban on premium yet for those like hurr durr I bypassed). One case is someone claiming they bypassed security on open when security isn't even enabled, and every other one we've looked into is fake external clients to scam idiots for money. We know this is the case because when a hacking community figures out a gcheat check, you hear more and more about the detection method. We haven't heard shit about any layer of security other then the common sense ones that non-developers know about, and there is some really obnoxious shit that hackers/developers would really be complaining about if they were actually making ANY progress.

To finish it off, I don't really care about it. The fact that they are allowing custom mods shows me enough about it's security. If players in CSGO can hack through steam's official modding API, then you better believe allowing mods is going to be a huge security risk in a game with full source code available. Nothing is free in life, remember that. Side note, even if this gets any traction outside of the already dying potionpvp community, mojang will come in and hammer MineHQ pretty hard for their incredibly anti-EULA store (reduced deathbans, lives, unbans, etc) and then they will be forced to start charging for it anyways. Mojang doesn't really care about small servers, and in reality that is what MineHQ currently is. If they grow to anywhere near BL's size they will show up on Mojang's radar, and they will lose most of their income once Mojang comes after them.

In the end, two things are going to happen:
1. It will not be ring0, and any decent programmer (very few of those in MC) will be able to bypass it with some work. Eventually the clients will be unable to be detected without ring0 and then we move onto #2.
2. It will be ring0, but it won't be able to match ESL/ESEA/TEO's ability as it's professional industry-hardened developers versus a bunch of "minecraft coders" and it'll eventually just be a place where cheaters play when they get banned on BAC, just like most potion servers are where banned BL players play and nothing changes.

Also, as much of a friend of jhalts I am, you have the fact that most people who know MineHQ's past will not feel safe installing a ring0 client on their computer that jhalt has access to. I know I'll be forbidding any BL staff from installing it.

In closing, I do wish them the best as they have the same overall goal and that's to really crack down on the cheating and attempt to legitimize PvP in Minecraft. I definitely will not be releasing bypasses for it to anyone, but I'll probably show me doing it once when I get bored one day (without the method shown) once just to really stick it to some of the developers (a lot of them are cheat developers which have caused this problem, so it'll be good to give them some grief back).

You just proved my point that only uhc things are alive. Sg gets like 150 players and I'm not blaming you guys for it its really because sg is dead. CTW will die like CTF it will be popular for a week and die and skywars. I've seen tons of videos where people said they disliked it and it was overhyped and saying it's a little too much. Which it is. But we still don't know if it is still a forge mod. It could be a launcher. Badlion Premium limits what you can do. CheatBreaker won't. It's been 2 years since they've talked about it. Pretty sure by now they've improved it even more. They've had Manthe even work on it. Also it'd be kinda scummy for you to do that to your "friend". If anyone were to bypass ur shit and put it on video and make it public you'd tweet about it all day long. I thought you were about bringing servers together and helping other servers ???

SG gets like 150 players? Say what? Right now it has 400 and it's not even EU peak. Anyways all networks have something they lean on to make themselves big. Hypixel leans on void heavy minigames for example. Saying Badlion leans on UHC when talking about a network that without potion would literally not exist makes your argument look incredibly weak.

The next part of your post just sounds like ramblings of an idiot so I'll ignore it.

Saying Manthe worked on it just lowers my expectations of it a lot and reaffirms security issues I would have with it and my lack of trust in it doing its job (it also makes me want to break it more to prove my point). In my eyes he's not a good programmer and he also has no formal education or certifications that I know of to be doing this kind of job. Hell, he can't even make a external client leave no trace and be immune to screenshares but yet you expect him to do something 100x harder?

And pulling the friend shit, there is a difference between business and friends. Friends wouldn't take gamemodes that you technically own, fight over developers/resources/players, and release services to compete with you - but competing businesses would.

He isn't a good programmer but he made a program that bypasses badlion premium already lol. But nice to know that you would put your own buisness in front of your friends lol

You just proved my point that only uhc things are alive. Sg gets like 150 players and I'm not blaming you guys for it its really because sg is dead. CTW will die like CTF it will be popular for a week and die like skywars.

never seen you play and you haven't played a single map LUL

You have 0 reason to believe ctw will die. You litterly just oulled that out of your ass.

I would bet my life that CTW will die in a week. You can quote me on this

I would bet my life that CTW will die in a week. You can quote me on this