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Last edited on 16 April 2017 - 03:22 PM by SoulzHD
Ok so I think we all know that Badlion premium hasn't been up to expectations at all so far.We all know the MC community wont use anything if it isn't smooth and good for pvp,exactly like 1.7 or better. We will literally take the smallest problem and make it into a huge one because that's how this community always has been. Its actually noticeable and it annoys us while pvping.
Yes I know this is still a beta but if you guys really gonna respect the 1st may deadline you need to hurry up and make everything perfect.
There's only 15 days left and I doubt it will be ready until then so it may be better to not announce any deadline until its perfect and every feature that was promised since the first announcement is added.
So here are the issues.
1.8 PvP
Im really not sure about this since we may just get fooled by a number but PvP may still feel a bit like 1.8 .Every person I talked to said its a bit different even tho the hits are supposed to be reverted to 1.7(crosshair bug is fixed). https://twitter.com/BadlionNetwork/status/852103999939637248
Please take your time and carefully search for every possible reason 1.8 PvP on this client isn't exactly the same as 1.7. (it feels better than normal 1.8 tho)
Some clips from Nestor's premium uhc stream:
1. https://clips.twitch.tv/TallRefinedSheepTBTacoLeft - this doesn't look normal at all .. like this should never happen on 1.7. His hits didn't even register while the crosshair was on the hitbox.
2. https://clips.twitch.tv/SoftExcitedNuggetsThisIsSparta -these hits just feel so awkward
3. You MUST watch this (from 01:07:25 to 01:11:00). https://www.twitch.tv/videos/134776928 . Look how his sword just randomly stops swinging… this isn't normal at all.
Client toggles issues/bugs.
1.7 and 1.8 options:
None of the 1.7/1.8 toggle options seem to work anymore and some of them are really confusing:
-1.7 Hearts are still 1.8(they 'flash' when you get hit)
-I cant figure out what "armor damage" is supposed to do. I tested it a few times and I don't see any difference between the 2 options.
-Blocking :Isn't this supposed to make the blockhitting look like 1.7/8?Now all it does is to not let you break blocks while blocking and this may sometimes cancel hits(??).Why would you want this in the first place?
-Bow punching: It took me a while to figure out what this actually does but its the exact same thing as the above but with the bow. Why would someone want that?
-Held items option doesn't do anything anymore.
-Sky: There is literally no difference between the 1.7 and 1.8 sky toggle ,or at least I cant see it. And about sky, custom sky MUST be added.Some of the packs are just pointless and boring without the fancy sky.
FOV: Still broken. You Have to turn speed FOVs down to 30 so it looks normal .Wasn't this supposed to be 3 separate FOVs for every speed level that are not affected by each other?
Aesthetics
1.8 items look really bad .
-Some of them don't have edges or they are half transparent.
https://gyazo.com/1e4c18d244375d876df2c3434b8dbcf4 (left 1.8, right 1.7)
https://gyazo.com/a3e85303f11c0c777acdb83c73914d46
-Some items have weird dots between the edge pixels. This is a thing on 1.7 too but its almost unnoticeable.(maybe this could be removed completely?)
https://gyazo.com/d38192f61dbc1c416410fe236cb8aae2
-Enchant glint is really ugly on 1.8 and there should be a toggle for 1.7 glint
https://gyazo.com/b43dbf0e246725c04b34569b1a94fab5
Animations
-splash potions are mirrored when thrown
https://gyazo.com/d13cc1efe879f60b97b10d61b3cd37b3 (also the ugly enchant glint here D:)
-I think blocking animations are slightly different than normal 1.7(+ breaking while blocking)
-The items are positioned a bit too high and a bit to the left in the hand
https://gyazo.com/20bf5e9d2788908d018fef8968942343
https://gyazo.com/44371d2acd36ba1818b50b08a2c883ee
-Bow is 1.8 when pulled : https://gyazo.com/5a1673b3e5f0015fab6be6c3a226af23
-Rod animation is still 1.8
-The regen animation is a few times faster than normal
-Make screenshots save in .minecraft screenshots instead of C://screenshots
-Eating is 1.8
Lava and water.
Lava doesn't glitch anymore but it still doesn't place really often. The bucket turns empty in hand but when you throw it or place it again its lava.I think it happens more often when you try to place it through the player(??).
-They are delayed when you place them.This is really annoying especially when you MLG or try to water fast , so I end up getting confused and losing/missing the water.
Other issues
-Arrows are really glitchy now. You'll have to test it yourself .They just randomly switch their position after they land or they tp mid-air. Sometimes on your screen they look like you missed the target when you actually didn't , so you hear the "ding".
-1.8 border looks cool but you cant place blocks on it. I lost so many times just because of this.
https://gyazo.com/819e48244879c17ba4a3609e2dce1234
-Idk if its just me but I find this red and blue eye position thing annoying https://gyazo.com/241c67fc0241f531f262527f42e9ad30 . And btw the blue thing helps you to see people if they are hiding behind blocks.
-The inventory shifts to the left/right when you get or lose potion effects and this is really annoying.
-Armor turns invisible if you hit someone wearing player heads
-Leather armor doesn't turn red when hit.
Premium UHCs
There has been a lot of confusion lately whether Premium UHCs are free or not. Even tho they were announced to be free a long time ago I think its normal for people to think they are not. Since they are called "Premium" UHCs , if I were a new or uninformed player I would think the Premium rank is a requirement to play them. So why not change the name to like "BAC UHCs" or something else?
-Teamers : Since games are automatic and they are not even on the main Badlion server , everybody can easily team without getting away with it. There is probably no way to program something that stops teamers so there should be AT LEAST 1 or 2 mods per UHC.
https://gyazo.com/98fd9537c436848225a5e8d9a146ce27 like come on this is just so annoying and it stops people from playing a cheater free UHC…
-Since there are no mods the chat can say and spam whatever they want. People that are banned/muted for whatever reason on open can just go on a premium UHC and spam stupid shit without any consequences.
This also looks REALLY bad on streams :
https://clips.twitch.tv/PoisedOnerousStarlingOMGScoots
https://clips.twitch.tv/ManlyCulturedQueleaFloof
https://clips.twitch.tv/ObedientUglySowBudStar
-Games barely get 1/2 of the max players. You guys should find a solution to this but again its beta so less people are gonna play
Besides these , caving looks really fun and it should definitely be added as a scenario in normal UHCs.
GUI and Mods
The GUI doesn't look good at all so far. Instead of the ugly mods , why not add the mods that people are the most used to?
Edit : I'm not saying they should copy the code from those mods(I know they can't do that), but just make them look like we want.
- Potion effects : https://gyazo.com/153c7ce7ead2d903f4e0338ab3f4ca3c
- Direction HUD : https://gyazo.com/98cd82ce610273ac44b8e775039afdb0
- I'm not a fan of the current coords and I would rather use this : https://gyazo.com/a228996cd46c6ea7e19349f98db0515d , it looks so much cleaner and it has a small direction hud too
- Font : Some packs have really ugly fonts and it makes all the mods look worse(like this https://gyazo.com/b8c43e660429f364234505c627e09246). Why not use a single font that cannot be changed by packs?It will look so much better : https://gyazo.com/f73db2309b1ffffe9559b551c1f60988
- Mods look worse after you resize them. Maybe make it so they keep their aspect ratio? And also add a "return to default size" option.
- When you change the screen size , the mods shouldn't modify their size and become bigger/smaller .Also this thing https://gyazo.com/39fb78b041f2918df233839e1b7b5789 happens when you do it.
- Maybe replace the green resize squares with something else. They don't look good imo.
- Add like a transparent background to most of the mods , it looks so much better : https://gyazo.com/1889a41374591294f4cbfcc2d24c879f (screenshot from cheatbreaker)
- CPS mod updates really slow (only every second)
- Ping mod updates slow too
- The armor HUD numbers still don't align properly. Also make them change color to like yellow/red when the dura is low + add vertical armor option like the ss below or like this https://gyazo.com/46468c11cfa20748ecaa548cffa75745 .
- Near the armor HUD show the dura of the item you're holding too. https://gyazo.com/c3fcee030f11bb1e9c3f21b6cdef2f3a
- The new search bar on texture pack is pretty much pointless since you still have to scroll to find them.
- Make the screen darker for GUI editing https://gyazo.com/7155aa401314d9795499648f932e5b4d , kinda like when you open inventory https://gyazo.com/9158f9e3c09ffe070e16da3eaa147bc4 . This will make it clearer that you cannot move or do anything else other than editing(+ it looks better).
- The Badlion option buttons don't look good at all + there should be tabs for every section(mods , 1.7/8 options)
- I play on a small screen so the buttons kinda overwrite the bottom ones https://gyazo.com/e71951292325977aeb68e35cb5ee652b
- Re-add F3+B .Its faster to toggle hitboxes , instead of going through the options.
- Add a clean glass disable/enable option. This would make it so much easier to switch quickly if you're playing arena or other gamemodes where you need to see glass https://gyazo.com/7cb7d0822d4065b50cd0569b92d6e33a (ss from cheatbreaker)
128 TPS
This definitely needs more testing.
- Items looks really laggy when you drop them (like they skip ticks)
- Enchant glint animation is a few times faster than normal
- Swinging animation looks a bit slower than normal
- Rod seems slower than normal and it should be faster + the hook is kinda glitchy sometimes
- Your head still looks retarded when you're sitting(20 tps too)
- Its weird that you can see the player spin when someone does a quick 360 , but again this might be normal since you can see every move on 128 TPS
- Some combos on NoDebuff look like reach with 128 TPS .Everything is instant so I cant complain ; again this might be normal.
- Idk if this could be changed but since everything is so responsive , you can just get out of any combo by rodding ; its like a normal sword hit. I was literally sitting in a corner once and was just rodding someone and he couldn't even get close to me.
I didn't get to play this too much since my client crashes 9/10 of the times I try to join a 128 TPS game but ill just post here again if I find another issues.
Badlion Theme
What makes a client unique is a cool interface and theme.
One of the reason I'm more attracted to CheatBreaker is because their cool main screen theme ,interface and some really useful options.
https://gyazo.com/49252128c39d96ad838392860640e361 look at how good their main screen looks.They even have a nice bar on top for options and this should be definitely be added into BL client too.
Examples of some good themes/ options from other games : https://gyazo.com/f590a6868bba85be8c17d2055b0b1432 (CSGO) , https://gyazo.com/7160a6a1606e605fe5d599d389ae3d1e (PUBG), https://gyazo.com/357762e4b38cf5644233d7aa3fd3cf82 (overwatch)
-Remove all the useless buttons to make everything look cleaner and free some space , like 3D option , minecraft realms, snooper settings, super secret settings, skin custumization, broadcast settings,realms notifications, achievements, statistics , open to LAN ,etc..
I also don't like how you constantly have to use the launcher to switch between gamemodes(128 TPS arena, pugs, UHCs,open and other).
I think it would be much easier to have to start the game only one time and have all those options in game available from the main screen , but of course with a cleaner interface. No matter what option you pick, you wont have to restart the game every time you wanna play 128 TPS or switch from 20 to 128 TPS etc. For the Badlion server there should be an option on the server list to disable or enable BAC on Badlion, and if its enabled it should be shown near the server just like this https://gyazo.com/d204e4709aae1f0501cc9b565601671f (CB screenshots) .
I know this is kind of a big remake but it will feel so much more friendly to use and I think it will be worth it
CheatBreaker
I think this will actually be a big competition to Badlion once its released. At this moment it looks so much more promising and I would honestly use it instead.
1. The client side anti cheat is FREE to use on ANY server that has it enabled and of course this will attract a lot more players.
I know the anticheat is free too on Badlion but the option to queue up with a legit player will only available to premium ranks(as said in the announcement)
2. It has Optifine. I wont talk about how it boosts your fps since I know this is being worked on , but a big concern people have is that they cannot see Optifine capes that they/other players paid for.Maybe this isn't a big deal but lets not forget 80% of people that downloaded Minecraft, downloaded Optifine too and there are A LOT of capes in game.
3. It has a much cleaner interface and nice theme (hopefully being changed on Badlion too)
4. PvP is 1.7 (hopefully PvP here will be completely identical)
5. You can use any pack. I know this will be changed here too but from what I heard , it will take a long time to make. Ass sooner it gets added , the more people will start using the client instead.
With this being said , Badlion should try to eliminate all the alternatives and make people have no excuse to use it(like "it drops my fps","its ugly" etc..)and make this client perfect to surprise anyone's expectations.
This community is mainly influenced by streamers/youtubers , so if they say something is good , their followers will say its good too.
Before the full release you guys should get the famous people that actively promote your server and really prove them this whole wait/ failures were worth it.You should also ask them for any feature they like to be added for the client to be perfect because they are the people that will make your client more and more popular.
And please don't even talk about how ESL will promote and bring so much more players to Badlion. This is true ,but you first have to make the current PvP community prefer the client over something else.
I really respect how much dedication the owners/devs have for this community and hopefully their work will pay off. We really want you to prove us this client was worth the wait after all the deadlines and failures.
I spent a LONG time writing this so PLEASE upvote , get this to trending and tell me what you think :D
Sorry if I missed anything or said something wrong :)
Posted on 16 April 2017 - 01:35 PM
Something tells me you're always the one with an A for your essays for school.Posted on 16 April 2017 - 01:43 PM
Zelkam wrote
Something tells me you're always the one with an A for your essays for school.
Not at all LOL
Posted on 16 April 2017 - 01:59 PM
soulz soulz soulz soulz soulz soulzi totally agree with you on everything and well written I've read half of it and going to continue
Posted on 16 April 2017 - 02:07 PM
+1Posted on 16 April 2017 - 02:09 PM
*awaits long response by archy*Posted on 16 April 2017 - 02:20 PM
MYXZPTLK wrote
*awaits long response by archy*
LMAO ikr
Last edited on 18 April 2017 - 12:24 AM by *deleted-96553
Automatically DeletedPosted on 16 April 2017 - 04:13 PM
Big +1 on thisPosted on 16 April 2017 - 04:14 PM
Automatically DeletedPosted on 16 April 2017 - 04:26 PM
EhhThing wrote
Cheatbreaker is not free for all servers. They will partner with other servers but it costs the servers money. Badlion will get sued if they use Optifine because it's someone else's code. When cheatbreaker comes out, there is a chance that they will get sued (depending on if the developer of optifine will sue them and if the developer can find absolute proof that they used Optifine code) looking at their website, it looks like cheatbreaker uses Optifine without even giving credit to them.
Yes it will prob cost the server money but the players will be able to use it for free on that server. And yeah I think its pretty scummy too if they dont have permision from optifine and they didnt even credit them.
Posted on 16 April 2017 - 06:35 PM
The biggest +1 EVER. There is so much stuff on this list I couldn't agree more on. Great job, hope they implement/fix all of it.Last edited on 16 April 2017 - 08:19 PM by Archybot
Now this is the type of post I like to see@MasterGberry
Soulz get on discord if you don't use it and send me a message, I might need to ask for specifics/examples of some of this.
Posted on 16 April 2017 - 08:22 PM
Good read. I agree with a lot of points made here. We are working towards fixing most of these issues, thank you for the post and feedback.Last edited on 17 April 2017 - 04:14 AM by MasterGberry
I just want to start off by saying thanks for this huge feedback thread. Wish there was an @ everyone tag on our forums because this thread is a prime example of what feedback on Badlion should be. A very well thought out, non-rage induced, detailed thread with video clips to support areas that are not easy to describe with words.I am going to add some comments in bold below. As far as deadlines and release dates nothing at this point is changing from May 1. While the product might not be 100% it is 90% of the way there in terms of feature/gameplay. Still like you mentioned there are 2 weeks until the release and a lot of the things in this thread can be addressed before May 1 or if not addressed within the month of May very easily. We cannot change the release date at this point in time since we have begun to accept payments from players their subscriptions were all setup to start on May 1 (we gave everyone the month of April for free for beta testing).
SoulzHD wrote
Ok so I think we all know that Badlion premium hasn't been up to expectations at all so far.
We all know the MC community wont use anything if it isn't smooth and good for pvp,exactly like 1.7 or better. We will literally take the smallest problem and make it into a huge one because that's how this community always has been. Its actually noticeable and it annoys us while pvping.
Yes I know this is still a beta but if you guys really gonna respect the 1st may deadline you need to hurry up and make everything perfect.
There's only 15 days left and I doubt it will be ready until then so it may be better to not announce any deadline until its perfect and every feature that was promised since the first announcement is added. No community or group of people will ever be completely satisfied. This is human nature. Everyone always wants more. That being the case this does not mean we can't try to get the # of people or the # of wants down.
So here are the issues.
1.8 PvP
Im really not sure about this since we may just get fooled by a number but PvP may still feel a bit like 1.8 .Every person I talked to said its a bit different even tho the hits are supposed to be reverted to 1.7(crosshair bug is fixed). https://twitter.com/BadlionNetwork/status/852103999939637248
Please take your time and carefully search for every possible reason 1.8 PvP on this client isn't exactly the same as 1.7. (it feels better than normal 1.8 tho)
Some clips from Nestor's premium uhc stream:
1. https://clips.twitch.tv/TallRefinedSheepTBTacoLeft - this doesn't look normal at all .. like this should never happen on 1.7. His hits didn't even register while the crosshair was on the hitbox. To clarify I believe you mean at the end of the stream clip right? We can definitely further investigate this.
2. https://clips.twitch.tv/SoftExcitedNuggetsThisIsSparta -these hits just feel so awkward I myself do not see what is wrong in this clip but more experienced people like Archy/Ginie can help explain it the developers.
3. You MUST watch this (from 01:07:25 to 01:11:00). https://www.twitch.tv/videos/134776928 . Look how his sword just randomly stops swinging… this isn't normal at all. Yeah i see how his sword stopped swinging. Not sure if this is an animation but or not. I think he still hit him during that time when the animation of the sword was not showing but i could be wrong. Once again Archy/Ginie need to be more involved with this stuff. I don't know PvP mechanics well enough.
Client toggles issues/bugs.
1.7 and 1.8 options:
None of the 1.7/1.8 toggle options seem to work anymore and some of them are really confusing:
-1.7 Hearts are still 1.8 (they 'flash' when you get hit)Noted
-I cant figure out what "armor damage" is supposed to do. I tested it a few times and I don't see any difference between the 2 options.I don't know myself what this is as it's a new feature. I would have to ask
-Blocking :Isn't this supposed to make the blockhitting look like 1.7/8?Now all it does is to not let you break blocks while blocking and this may sometimes cancel hits(??).Why would you want this in the first place? I believe this is fixed in the next version, but i have to check/verify it.
-Bow punching: It took me a while to figure out what this actually does but its the exact same thing as the above but with the bow. Why would someone want that?I believe it is supposed to change the animation, but once again need to investigate.
-Held items option doesn't do anything anymore.Once again I don't know what this was supposed to do in the first place.
-Sky: There is literally no difference between the 1.7 and 1.8 sky toggle ,or at least I cant see it. And about sky, custom sky MUST be added.Some of the packs are just pointless and boring without the fancy sky.Sky is also the largest FPS lag in the game. That being the case we are working on trying to get both figured out.
FOV: Still broken. You Have to turn speed FOVs down to 30 so it looks normal .Wasn't this supposed to be 3 separate FOVs for every speed level that are not affected by each other?There are 3 FOV values, but now i think we added dynamic FOV also? To be honest a lot of these client changes with Archybot and his decisions and I really don't know what was or was not decided.
Aesthetics
1.8 items look really bad .
-Some of them don't have edges or they are half transparent.
https://gyazo.com/1e4c18d244375d876df2c3434b8dbcf4 (left 1.8, right 1.7)
https://gyazo.com/a3e85303f11c0c777acdb83c73914d46 This could be a few things. 1. the texture packs are actually different 2. the image compressor i used screwed some of the images up. Is this for a particular pack?
-Some items have weird dots between the edge pixels. This is a thing on 1.7 too but its almost unnoticeable.(maybe this could be removed completely?)
https://gyazo.com/d38192f61dbc1c416410fe236cb8aae2 Once again not sure if this is minecraft issue or image issue. If you could go check the raw pack files this would help. (They are called blpack in C:\Program Files\Badlion Client but i think you can just open them with 7zip)
-Enchant glint is really ugly on 1.8 and there should be a toggle for 1.7 glint
https://gyazo.com/b43dbf0e246725c04b34569b1a94fab5 Can add an option to disable this
Animations
-splash potions are mirrored when thrown
https://gyazo.com/d13cc1efe879f60b97b10d61b3cd37b3 (also the ugly enchant glint here D:) Two different issues here. Will get both resolved
-I think blocking animations are slightly different than normal 1.7(+ breaking while blocking) Believe we fixed the blocking animation in this next patch
-The items are positioned a bit too high and a bit to the left in the hand
https://gyazo.com/20bf5e9d2788908d018fef8968942343
https://gyazo.com/44371d2acd36ba1818b50b08a2c883ee I assume the left is 1.7 and the right is 1.8?
-Bow is 1.8 when pulled : https://gyazo.com/5a1673b3e5f0015fab6be6c3a226af23 Noted
-Rod animation is still 1.8 Noted
-The regen animation is a few times faster than normal Noted
-Make screenshots save in .minecraft screenshots instead of C://screenshots Oh is this where they are ending up at the moment? This is something we will have to adjust/fix.
-Eating is 1.8 Think this is fixed in next patch, might be wrong though
Lava and water.
Lava doesn't glitch anymore but it still doesn't place really often. The bucket turns empty in hand but when you throw it or place it again its lava.I think it happens more often when you try to place it through the player(??).I think this is being resolved in this upcoming patch, but i could be wrong.
-They are delayed when you place them.This is really annoying especially when you MLG or try to water fast , so I end up getting confused and losing/missing the water.I think this is being resolved in this upcoming patch, but i could be wrong x2.
Other issues
-Arrows are really glitchy now. You'll have to test it yourself .They just randomly switch their position after they land or they tp mid-air. Sometimes on your screen they look like you missed the target when you actually didn't , so you hear the "ding".Is this on 20 tps or 128 tps gameplay?
-1.8 border looks cool but you cant place blocks on it. I lost so many times just because of this.
https://gyazo.com/819e48244879c17ba4a3609e2dce1234 Noted
-Idk if its just me but I find this red and blue eye position thing annoying https://gyazo.com/241c67fc0241f531f262527f42e9ad30 . And btw the blue thing helps you to see people if they are hiding behind blocks. Yeah we should just have the white box and not the other ones
-The inventory shifts to the left/right when you get or lose potion effects and this is really annoying. Noted
-Armor turns invisible if you hit someone wearing player heads Awkward lol
-Leather armor doesn't turn red when hit. Noted
Premium UHCs
There has been a lot of confusion lately whether Premium UHCs are free or not. Even tho they were announced to be free a long time ago I think its normal for people to think they are not. Since they are called "Premium" UHCs , if I were a new or uninformed player I would think the Premium rank is a requirement to play them. So why not change the name to like "BAC UHCs" or something else?We are considering changing the GUI or the name of the UHC's around. Not sure which we want to do yet.
-Teamers : Since games are automatic and they are not even on the main Badlion server , everybody can easily team without getting away with it. There is probably no way to program something that stops teamers so there should be AT LEAST 1 or 2 mods per UHC.
https://gyazo.com/98fd9537c436848225a5e8d9a146ce27 like come on this is just so annoying and it stops people from playing a cheater free UHC…We are working on a few different things to prevent teaming. First is a warning. Second is some programming. Third is some people to watch over games here and there. That being the case game rules might always have a chance of being broken and if caught doing so people will be punished extremely harshly in these UHC's for doing so. We have a spreadsheet keeping track of these punishments atm while we are working on some of the back-end things.
-Since there are no mods the chat can say and spam whatever they want. People that are banned/muted for whatever reason on open can just go on a premium UHC and spam stupid shit without any consequences.
This also looks REALLY bad on streams :
https://clips.twitch.tv/PoisedOnerousStarlingOMGScoots
https://clips.twitch.tv/ManlyCulturedQueleaFloof
https://clips.twitch.tv/ObedientUglySowBudStar
Once again the new mute system is being worked on. I believe Archy has a partial automated solution in the works and I have more of a manual system in the works. That being the case we will make punishments for Badlion Premium way more harsh than on Badlion Open.
-Games barely get 1/2 of the max players. You guys should find a solution to this but again its beta so less people are gonna play
Besides these , caving looks really fun and it should definitely be added as a scenario in normal UHCs.No comment here really. Beta be beta \o/
GUI and Mods
The GUI doesn't look good at all so far. Instead of the ugly mods , why not add the mods that people are the most used to?
Edit : I'm not saying they should copy the code from those mods(I know they can't do that), but just make them look like we want.
- Potion effects : https://gyazo.com/153c7ce7ead2d903f4e0338ab3f4ca3c
- Direction HUD : https://gyazo.com/98cd82ce610273ac44b8e775039afdb0
- I'm not a fan of the current coords and I would rather use this : https://gyazo.com/a228996cd46c6ea7e19349f98db0515d , it looks so much cleaner and it has a small direction hud too
- Font : Some packs have really ugly fonts and it makes all the mods look worse(like this https://gyazo.com/b8c43e660429f364234505c627e09246). Why not use a single font that cannot be changed by packs?It will look so much better : https://gyazo.com/f73db2309b1ffffe9559b551c1f60988
- Mods look worse after you resize them. Maybe make it so they keep their aspect ratio? And also add a "return to default size" option.
- When you change the screen size , the mods shouldn't modify their size and become bigger/smaller .Also this thing https://gyazo.com/39fb78b041f2918df233839e1b7b5789 happens when you do it.
- Maybe replace the green resize squares with something else. They don't look good imo.
- Add like a transparent background to most of the mods , it looks so much better : https://gyazo.com/1889a41374591294f4cbfcc2d24c879f (screenshot from cheatbreaker)
- CPS mod updates really slow (only every second)
- Ping mod updates slow too
- The armor HUD numbers still don't align properly. Also make them change color to like yellow/red when the dura is low + add vertical armor option like the ss below or like this https://gyazo.com/46468c11cfa20748ecaa548cffa75745 .
- Near the armor HUD show the dura of the item you're holding too. https://gyazo.com/c3fcee030f11bb1e9c3f21b6cdef2f3a
- The new search bar on texture pack is pretty much pointless since you still have to scroll to find them.
- Make the screen darker for GUI editing https://gyazo.com/7155aa401314d9795499648f932e5b4d , kinda like when you open inventory https://gyazo.com/9158f9e3c09ffe070e16da3eaa147bc4 . This will make it clearer that you cannot move or do anything else other than editing(+ it looks better).
- The Badlion option buttons don't look good at all + there should be tabs for every section(mods , 1.7/8 options)
- I play on a small screen so the buttons kinda overwrite the bottom ones https://gyazo.com/e71951292325977aeb68e35cb5ee652b
- Re-add F3+B .Its faster to toggle hitboxes , instead of going through the options.
- Add a clean glass disable/enable option. This would make it so much easier to switch quickly if you're playing arena or other gamemodes where you need to see glass https://gyazo.com/7cb7d0822d4065b50cd0569b92d6e33a (ss from cheatbreaker)
Personally i believe that a lot of this feedback is just placebo/being used to something. This being the case it doesn't mean we aren't working on multiple formats for players to be able to toggle between. As far as the actual bugs/slow updating reported in here will have them adjusted.
128 TPS
This definitely needs more testing.
- Items looks really laggy when you drop them (like they skip ticks) Probably something we did not fix. Noted
- Enchant glint animation is a few times faster than normal Noted
- Swinging animation looks a bit slower than normal Noted
- Rod seems slower than normal and it should be faster + the hook is kinda glitchy sometimes Noted. I noticed this one myself when playing. Couldn't put my finger on it though
- Your head still looks retarded when you're sitting(20 tps too) Hey man, don't be mean to Steve :( Noted
- Its weird that you can see the player spin when someone does a quick 360 , but again this might be normal since you can see every move on 128 TPS Noted
- Some combos on NoDebuff look like reach with 128 TPS .Everything is instant so I cant complain ; again this might be normal. Not sure. We know there is a bug with BuildUHC not sure if it applies to NoDebuff as well. 128 TPS is going to feel a bit different than 20 tps (faster hit registrations/reactions).
- Idk if this could be changed but since everything is so responsive , you can just get out of any combo by rodding ; its like a normal sword hit. I was literally sitting in a corner once and was just rodding someone and he couldn't even get close to me.Yeah i think we need to adjust rod knockback and nerf it a bit. I noticed this with my limited gameplay as well.
I didn't get to play this too much since my client crashes 9/10 of the times I try to join a 128 TPS game but ill just post here again if I find another issues. Stability patch is coming out soon which fixes a lot of these problems
Badlion Theme
What makes a client unique is a cool interface and theme.
One of the reason I'm more attracted to CheatBreaker is because their cool main screen theme ,interface and some really useful options.
https://gyazo.com/49252128c39d96ad838392860640e361 look at how good their main screen looks.They even have a nice bar on top for options and this should be definitely be added into BL client too.The interface in Minecraft is not finalized but there are definitely some improvements that can be made to it
Examples of some good themes/ options from other games : https://gyazo.com/f590a6868bba85be8c17d2055b0b1432 (CSGO) , https://gyazo.com/7160a6a1606e605fe5d599d389ae3d1e (PUBG), https://gyazo.com/357762e4b38cf5644233d7aa3fd3cf82 (overwatch)
-Remove all the useless buttons to make everything look cleaner and free some space , like 3D option , minecraft realms, snooper settings, super secret settings, skin custumization, broadcast settings,realms notifications, achievements, statistics , open to LAN ,etc..This will not happen, but if anything they can be re-arranged. Our client is meant to be used anywhere and not just Badlion.
I also don't like how you constantly have to use the launcher to switch between gamemodes(128 TPS arena, pugs, UHCs,open and other).
I think it would be much easier to have to start the game only one time and have all those options in game available from the main screen , but of course with a cleaner interface. No matter what option you pick, you wont have to restart the game every time you wanna play 128 TPS or switch from 20 to 128 TPS etc. For the Badlion server there should be an option on the server list to disable or enable BAC on Badlion, and if its enabled it should be shown near the server just like this https://gyazo.com/d204e4709aae1f0501cc9b565601671f (CB screenshots). There is no reason for us to do this since BAC will only work on Badlion and it's automatic by using our client. I agree that we can make the queueing process better. The issue right now is anti-cheat protection needs some adjustments to make this possible. I can't promise this as a fix before May 1 but sometime during May we will most likely be able to get this cleaned up.
I know this is kind of a big remake but it will feel so much more friendly to use and I think it will be worth it
CheatBreaker
I think this will actually be a big competition to Badlion once its released. At this moment it looks so much more promising and I would honestly use it instead.
1. The client side anti cheat is FREE to use on ANY server that has it enabled and of course this will attract a lot more players.
I know the anticheat is free too on Badlion but the option to queue up with a legit player will only available to premium ranks(as said in the announcement) Something being offered as free but not being available anywhere is not free to use anywhere
2. It has Optifine. I wont talk about how it boosts your fps since I know this is being worked on , but a big concern people have is that they cannot see Optifine capes that they/other players paid for.Maybe this isn't a big deal but lets not forget 80% of people that downloaded Minecraft, downloaded Optifine too and there are A LOT of capes in game.Optifine if they choose to can submit a DMCA and shut down cheatbreaker (this is under the assumption that they do not have written permission to use it, this is also under the assumption that they are actually using Optifine. They might have just made their own version of it). They did not give us written permission to use it (we asked). We do things legally here at Badlion.
3. It has a much cleaner interface and nice theme (hopefully being changed on Badlion too) Our focus has been on the launcher/actual Badlion client and not the Minecraft side as much. That being the case we will be working on it this & next months.
4. PvP is 1.7 (hopefully PvP here will be completely identical)We specifically chose to build our new platform on a more modern version of Minecraft for the following reasons (1) It has newer features such as the UHC border and armor stands (2) 1.7 is only used on a handful of servers. This effectively limits CB down to almost no compatible servers as their client only works with 1.7 and the servers do not support 1.7 If you want to play on Hypixel with the Badlion Client you can. I appreciate all of the feedback above for the 1.7 vs 1.8 animation/gameplay stuff. It will all be investigated/worked on.
5. You can use any pack. I know this will be changed here too but from what I heard , it will take a long time to make. Ass sooner it gets added , the more people will start using the client instead.We chose to go with a whitelist approach for packs at the start to be safe. There are possible bypasses with just allowing any pack to be used. This being the case we are exploring those potential bypasses and working to see what we can do about them. If the problem were so simple to fix don't you think Mojang would have done it by now?
With this being said , Badlion should try to eliminate all the alternatives and make people have no excuse to use it(like "it drops my fps","its ugly" etc..)and make this client perfect to surprise anyone's expectations.
This community is mainly influenced by streamers/youtubers , so if they say something is good , their followers will say its good too.
Before the full release you guys should get the famous people that actively promote your server and really prove them this whole wait/ failures were worth it.You should also ask them for any feature they like to be added for the client to be perfect because they are the people that will make your client more and more popular.
And please don't even talk about how ESL will promote and bring so much more players to Badlion. This is true ,but you first have to make the current PvP community prefer the client over something else.
I really respect how much dedication the owners/devs have for this community and hopefully their work will pay off. We really want you to prove us this client was worth the wait after all the deadlines and failures.
I spent a LONG time writing this so PLEASE upvote , get this to trending and tell me what you think :D
Sorry if I missed anything or said something wrong :)
We all know the MC community wont use anything if it isn't smooth and good for pvp,exactly like 1.7 or better. We will literally take the smallest problem and make it into a huge one because that's how this community always has been. Its actually noticeable and it annoys us while pvping.
Yes I know this is still a beta but if you guys really gonna respect the 1st may deadline you need to hurry up and make everything perfect.
There's only 15 days left and I doubt it will be ready until then so it may be better to not announce any deadline until its perfect and every feature that was promised since the first announcement is added. No community or group of people will ever be completely satisfied. This is human nature. Everyone always wants more. That being the case this does not mean we can't try to get the # of people or the # of wants down.
So here are the issues.
1.8 PvP
Im really not sure about this since we may just get fooled by a number but PvP may still feel a bit like 1.8 .Every person I talked to said its a bit different even tho the hits are supposed to be reverted to 1.7(crosshair bug is fixed). https://twitter.com/BadlionNetwork/status/852103999939637248
Please take your time and carefully search for every possible reason 1.8 PvP on this client isn't exactly the same as 1.7. (it feels better than normal 1.8 tho)
Some clips from Nestor's premium uhc stream:
1. https://clips.twitch.tv/TallRefinedSheepTBTacoLeft - this doesn't look normal at all .. like this should never happen on 1.7. His hits didn't even register while the crosshair was on the hitbox. To clarify I believe you mean at the end of the stream clip right? We can definitely further investigate this.
2. https://clips.twitch.tv/SoftExcitedNuggetsThisIsSparta -these hits just feel so awkward I myself do not see what is wrong in this clip but more experienced people like Archy/Ginie can help explain it the developers.
3. You MUST watch this (from 01:07:25 to 01:11:00). https://www.twitch.tv/videos/134776928 . Look how his sword just randomly stops swinging… this isn't normal at all. Yeah i see how his sword stopped swinging. Not sure if this is an animation but or not. I think he still hit him during that time when the animation of the sword was not showing but i could be wrong. Once again Archy/Ginie need to be more involved with this stuff. I don't know PvP mechanics well enough.
Client toggles issues/bugs.
1.7 and 1.8 options:
None of the 1.7/1.8 toggle options seem to work anymore and some of them are really confusing:
-1.7 Hearts are still 1.8 (they 'flash' when you get hit)Noted
-I cant figure out what "armor damage" is supposed to do. I tested it a few times and I don't see any difference between the 2 options.I don't know myself what this is as it's a new feature. I would have to ask
-Blocking :Isn't this supposed to make the blockhitting look like 1.7/8?Now all it does is to not let you break blocks while blocking and this may sometimes cancel hits(??).Why would you want this in the first place? I believe this is fixed in the next version, but i have to check/verify it.
-Bow punching: It took me a while to figure out what this actually does but its the exact same thing as the above but with the bow. Why would someone want that?I believe it is supposed to change the animation, but once again need to investigate.
-Held items option doesn't do anything anymore.Once again I don't know what this was supposed to do in the first place.
-Sky: There is literally no difference between the 1.7 and 1.8 sky toggle ,or at least I cant see it. And about sky, custom sky MUST be added.Some of the packs are just pointless and boring without the fancy sky.Sky is also the largest FPS lag in the game. That being the case we are working on trying to get both figured out.
FOV: Still broken. You Have to turn speed FOVs down to 30 so it looks normal .Wasn't this supposed to be 3 separate FOVs for every speed level that are not affected by each other?There are 3 FOV values, but now i think we added dynamic FOV also? To be honest a lot of these client changes with Archybot and his decisions and I really don't know what was or was not decided.
Aesthetics
1.8 items look really bad .
-Some of them don't have edges or they are half transparent.
https://gyazo.com/1e4c18d244375d876df2c3434b8dbcf4 (left 1.8, right 1.7)
https://gyazo.com/a3e85303f11c0c777acdb83c73914d46 This could be a few things. 1. the texture packs are actually different 2. the image compressor i used screwed some of the images up. Is this for a particular pack?
-Some items have weird dots between the edge pixels. This is a thing on 1.7 too but its almost unnoticeable.(maybe this could be removed completely?)
https://gyazo.com/d38192f61dbc1c416410fe236cb8aae2 Once again not sure if this is minecraft issue or image issue. If you could go check the raw pack files this would help. (They are called blpack in C:\Program Files\Badlion Client but i think you can just open them with 7zip)
-Enchant glint is really ugly on 1.8 and there should be a toggle for 1.7 glint
https://gyazo.com/b43dbf0e246725c04b34569b1a94fab5 Can add an option to disable this
Animations
-splash potions are mirrored when thrown
https://gyazo.com/d13cc1efe879f60b97b10d61b3cd37b3 (also the ugly enchant glint here D:) Two different issues here. Will get both resolved
-I think blocking animations are slightly different than normal 1.7(+ breaking while blocking) Believe we fixed the blocking animation in this next patch
-The items are positioned a bit too high and a bit to the left in the hand
https://gyazo.com/20bf5e9d2788908d018fef8968942343
https://gyazo.com/44371d2acd36ba1818b50b08a2c883ee I assume the left is 1.7 and the right is 1.8?
-Bow is 1.8 when pulled : https://gyazo.com/5a1673b3e5f0015fab6be6c3a226af23 Noted
-Rod animation is still 1.8 Noted
-The regen animation is a few times faster than normal Noted
-Make screenshots save in .minecraft screenshots instead of C://screenshots Oh is this where they are ending up at the moment? This is something we will have to adjust/fix.
-Eating is 1.8 Think this is fixed in next patch, might be wrong though
Lava and water.
Lava doesn't glitch anymore but it still doesn't place really often. The bucket turns empty in hand but when you throw it or place it again its lava.I think it happens more often when you try to place it through the player(??).I think this is being resolved in this upcoming patch, but i could be wrong.
-They are delayed when you place them.This is really annoying especially when you MLG or try to water fast , so I end up getting confused and losing/missing the water.I think this is being resolved in this upcoming patch, but i could be wrong x2.
Other issues
-Arrows are really glitchy now. You'll have to test it yourself .They just randomly switch their position after they land or they tp mid-air. Sometimes on your screen they look like you missed the target when you actually didn't , so you hear the "ding".Is this on 20 tps or 128 tps gameplay?
-1.8 border looks cool but you cant place blocks on it. I lost so many times just because of this.
https://gyazo.com/819e48244879c17ba4a3609e2dce1234 Noted
-Idk if its just me but I find this red and blue eye position thing annoying https://gyazo.com/241c67fc0241f531f262527f42e9ad30 . And btw the blue thing helps you to see people if they are hiding behind blocks. Yeah we should just have the white box and not the other ones
-The inventory shifts to the left/right when you get or lose potion effects and this is really annoying. Noted
-Armor turns invisible if you hit someone wearing player heads Awkward lol
-Leather armor doesn't turn red when hit. Noted
Premium UHCs
There has been a lot of confusion lately whether Premium UHCs are free or not. Even tho they were announced to be free a long time ago I think its normal for people to think they are not. Since they are called "Premium" UHCs , if I were a new or uninformed player I would think the Premium rank is a requirement to play them. So why not change the name to like "BAC UHCs" or something else?We are considering changing the GUI or the name of the UHC's around. Not sure which we want to do yet.
-Teamers : Since games are automatic and they are not even on the main Badlion server , everybody can easily team without getting away with it. There is probably no way to program something that stops teamers so there should be AT LEAST 1 or 2 mods per UHC.
https://gyazo.com/98fd9537c436848225a5e8d9a146ce27 like come on this is just so annoying and it stops people from playing a cheater free UHC…We are working on a few different things to prevent teaming. First is a warning. Second is some programming. Third is some people to watch over games here and there. That being the case game rules might always have a chance of being broken and if caught doing so people will be punished extremely harshly in these UHC's for doing so. We have a spreadsheet keeping track of these punishments atm while we are working on some of the back-end things.
-Since there are no mods the chat can say and spam whatever they want. People that are banned/muted for whatever reason on open can just go on a premium UHC and spam stupid shit without any consequences.
This also looks REALLY bad on streams :
https://clips.twitch.tv/PoisedOnerousStarlingOMGScoots
https://clips.twitch.tv/ManlyCulturedQueleaFloof
https://clips.twitch.tv/ObedientUglySowBudStar
Once again the new mute system is being worked on. I believe Archy has a partial automated solution in the works and I have more of a manual system in the works. That being the case we will make punishments for Badlion Premium way more harsh than on Badlion Open.
-Games barely get 1/2 of the max players. You guys should find a solution to this but again its beta so less people are gonna play
Besides these , caving looks really fun and it should definitely be added as a scenario in normal UHCs.No comment here really. Beta be beta \o/
GUI and Mods
The GUI doesn't look good at all so far. Instead of the ugly mods , why not add the mods that people are the most used to?
Edit : I'm not saying they should copy the code from those mods(I know they can't do that), but just make them look like we want.
- Potion effects : https://gyazo.com/153c7ce7ead2d903f4e0338ab3f4ca3c
- Direction HUD : https://gyazo.com/98cd82ce610273ac44b8e775039afdb0
- I'm not a fan of the current coords and I would rather use this : https://gyazo.com/a228996cd46c6ea7e19349f98db0515d , it looks so much cleaner and it has a small direction hud too
- Font : Some packs have really ugly fonts and it makes all the mods look worse(like this https://gyazo.com/b8c43e660429f364234505c627e09246). Why not use a single font that cannot be changed by packs?It will look so much better : https://gyazo.com/f73db2309b1ffffe9559b551c1f60988
- Mods look worse after you resize them. Maybe make it so they keep their aspect ratio? And also add a "return to default size" option.
- When you change the screen size , the mods shouldn't modify their size and become bigger/smaller .Also this thing https://gyazo.com/39fb78b041f2918df233839e1b7b5789 happens when you do it.
- Maybe replace the green resize squares with something else. They don't look good imo.
- Add like a transparent background to most of the mods , it looks so much better : https://gyazo.com/1889a41374591294f4cbfcc2d24c879f (screenshot from cheatbreaker)
- CPS mod updates really slow (only every second)
- Ping mod updates slow too
- The armor HUD numbers still don't align properly. Also make them change color to like yellow/red when the dura is low + add vertical armor option like the ss below or like this https://gyazo.com/46468c11cfa20748ecaa548cffa75745 .
- Near the armor HUD show the dura of the item you're holding too. https://gyazo.com/c3fcee030f11bb1e9c3f21b6cdef2f3a
- The new search bar on texture pack is pretty much pointless since you still have to scroll to find them.
- Make the screen darker for GUI editing https://gyazo.com/7155aa401314d9795499648f932e5b4d , kinda like when you open inventory https://gyazo.com/9158f9e3c09ffe070e16da3eaa147bc4 . This will make it clearer that you cannot move or do anything else other than editing(+ it looks better).
- The Badlion option buttons don't look good at all + there should be tabs for every section(mods , 1.7/8 options)
- I play on a small screen so the buttons kinda overwrite the bottom ones https://gyazo.com/e71951292325977aeb68e35cb5ee652b
- Re-add F3+B .Its faster to toggle hitboxes , instead of going through the options.
- Add a clean glass disable/enable option. This would make it so much easier to switch quickly if you're playing arena or other gamemodes where you need to see glass https://gyazo.com/7cb7d0822d4065b50cd0569b92d6e33a (ss from cheatbreaker)
Personally i believe that a lot of this feedback is just placebo/being used to something. This being the case it doesn't mean we aren't working on multiple formats for players to be able to toggle between. As far as the actual bugs/slow updating reported in here will have them adjusted.
128 TPS
This definitely needs more testing.
- Items looks really laggy when you drop them (like they skip ticks) Probably something we did not fix. Noted
- Enchant glint animation is a few times faster than normal Noted
- Swinging animation looks a bit slower than normal Noted
- Rod seems slower than normal and it should be faster + the hook is kinda glitchy sometimes Noted. I noticed this one myself when playing. Couldn't put my finger on it though
- Your head still looks retarded when you're sitting(20 tps too) Hey man, don't be mean to Steve :( Noted
- Its weird that you can see the player spin when someone does a quick 360 , but again this might be normal since you can see every move on 128 TPS Noted
- Some combos on NoDebuff look like reach with 128 TPS .Everything is instant so I cant complain ; again this might be normal. Not sure. We know there is a bug with BuildUHC not sure if it applies to NoDebuff as well. 128 TPS is going to feel a bit different than 20 tps (faster hit registrations/reactions).
- Idk if this could be changed but since everything is so responsive , you can just get out of any combo by rodding ; its like a normal sword hit. I was literally sitting in a corner once and was just rodding someone and he couldn't even get close to me.Yeah i think we need to adjust rod knockback and nerf it a bit. I noticed this with my limited gameplay as well.
I didn't get to play this too much since my client crashes 9/10 of the times I try to join a 128 TPS game but ill just post here again if I find another issues. Stability patch is coming out soon which fixes a lot of these problems
Badlion Theme
What makes a client unique is a cool interface and theme.
One of the reason I'm more attracted to CheatBreaker is because their cool main screen theme ,interface and some really useful options.
https://gyazo.com/49252128c39d96ad838392860640e361 look at how good their main screen looks.They even have a nice bar on top for options and this should be definitely be added into BL client too.The interface in Minecraft is not finalized but there are definitely some improvements that can be made to it
Examples of some good themes/ options from other games : https://gyazo.com/f590a6868bba85be8c17d2055b0b1432 (CSGO) , https://gyazo.com/7160a6a1606e605fe5d599d389ae3d1e (PUBG), https://gyazo.com/357762e4b38cf5644233d7aa3fd3cf82 (overwatch)
-Remove all the useless buttons to make everything look cleaner and free some space , like 3D option , minecraft realms, snooper settings, super secret settings, skin custumization, broadcast settings,realms notifications, achievements, statistics , open to LAN ,etc..This will not happen, but if anything they can be re-arranged. Our client is meant to be used anywhere and not just Badlion.
I also don't like how you constantly have to use the launcher to switch between gamemodes(128 TPS arena, pugs, UHCs,open and other).
I think it would be much easier to have to start the game only one time and have all those options in game available from the main screen , but of course with a cleaner interface. No matter what option you pick, you wont have to restart the game every time you wanna play 128 TPS or switch from 20 to 128 TPS etc. For the Badlion server there should be an option on the server list to disable or enable BAC on Badlion, and if its enabled it should be shown near the server just like this https://gyazo.com/d204e4709aae1f0501cc9b565601671f (CB screenshots). There is no reason for us to do this since BAC will only work on Badlion and it's automatic by using our client. I agree that we can make the queueing process better. The issue right now is anti-cheat protection needs some adjustments to make this possible. I can't promise this as a fix before May 1 but sometime during May we will most likely be able to get this cleaned up.
I know this is kind of a big remake but it will feel so much more friendly to use and I think it will be worth it
CheatBreaker
I think this will actually be a big competition to Badlion once its released. At this moment it looks so much more promising and I would honestly use it instead.
1. The client side anti cheat is FREE to use on ANY server that has it enabled and of course this will attract a lot more players.
I know the anticheat is free too on Badlion but the option to queue up with a legit player will only available to premium ranks(as said in the announcement) Something being offered as free but not being available anywhere is not free to use anywhere
2. It has Optifine. I wont talk about how it boosts your fps since I know this is being worked on , but a big concern people have is that they cannot see Optifine capes that they/other players paid for.Maybe this isn't a big deal but lets not forget 80% of people that downloaded Minecraft, downloaded Optifine too and there are A LOT of capes in game.Optifine if they choose to can submit a DMCA and shut down cheatbreaker (this is under the assumption that they do not have written permission to use it, this is also under the assumption that they are actually using Optifine. They might have just made their own version of it). They did not give us written permission to use it (we asked). We do things legally here at Badlion.
3. It has a much cleaner interface and nice theme (hopefully being changed on Badlion too) Our focus has been on the launcher/actual Badlion client and not the Minecraft side as much. That being the case we will be working on it this & next months.
4. PvP is 1.7 (hopefully PvP here will be completely identical)We specifically chose to build our new platform on a more modern version of Minecraft for the following reasons (1) It has newer features such as the UHC border and armor stands (2) 1.7 is only used on a handful of servers. This effectively limits CB down to almost no compatible servers as their client only works with 1.7 and the servers do not support 1.7 If you want to play on Hypixel with the Badlion Client you can. I appreciate all of the feedback above for the 1.7 vs 1.8 animation/gameplay stuff. It will all be investigated/worked on.
5. You can use any pack. I know this will be changed here too but from what I heard , it will take a long time to make. Ass sooner it gets added , the more people will start using the client instead.We chose to go with a whitelist approach for packs at the start to be safe. There are possible bypasses with just allowing any pack to be used. This being the case we are exploring those potential bypasses and working to see what we can do about them. If the problem were so simple to fix don't you think Mojang would have done it by now?
With this being said , Badlion should try to eliminate all the alternatives and make people have no excuse to use it(like "it drops my fps","its ugly" etc..)and make this client perfect to surprise anyone's expectations.
This community is mainly influenced by streamers/youtubers , so if they say something is good , their followers will say its good too.
Before the full release you guys should get the famous people that actively promote your server and really prove them this whole wait/ failures were worth it.You should also ask them for any feature they like to be added for the client to be perfect because they are the people that will make your client more and more popular.
And please don't even talk about how ESL will promote and bring so much more players to Badlion. This is true ,but you first have to make the current PvP community prefer the client over something else.
I really respect how much dedication the owners/devs have for this community and hopefully their work will pay off. We really want you to prove us this client was worth the wait after all the deadlines and failures.
I spent a LONG time writing this so PLEASE upvote , get this to trending and tell me what you think :D
Sorry if I missed anything or said something wrong :)
Posted on 17 April 2017 - 03:09 AM
Just following up here to mention a few of the things I was not sure above I confirmed with the devs and they are bugs that we are going to get fixed. Some of the options used to do things that broke recently.Posted on 17 April 2017 - 06:45 AM
Archybot wrote
Now this is the type of post I like to see
@MasterGberry
Soulz get on discord if you don't use it and send me a message, I might need to ask for specifics/examples of some of this.
@MasterGberry
Soulz get on discord if you don't use it and send me a message, I might need to ask for specifics/examples of some of this.
its really cool to see you take constructive critisism and improve the server :o
Posted on 17 April 2017 - 06:48 AM
This post is amazing, I wish i could write something as good as that!Posted on 17 April 2017 - 04:47 PM
Well I'm glad I could help and didn't waste my time writing this :)MasterGberry wrote
This could be a few things. 1. the texture packs are actually different 2. the image compressor i used screwed some of the images up. Is this for a particular pack?
This is a vanilla minecraft bug from 1.8 that I believe got fixed with optifine(the invisible sword borders from Zert x64 and other packs). I tested the packs on optifine and vanilla mc(+client). The sword is fixed on optifine , the pots from Amaranth are transparent on both OF and vanilla.
Things like this : https://gyazo.com/54064c7929897ffd06ccc64c5655ede1 may still happen with optifine tho.
MasterGberry wrote
Once again not sure if this is minecraft issue or image issue. If you could go check the raw pack files this would help. (They are called blpack in C:\Program Files\Badlion Client but i think you can just open them with 7zip)
Again this is a vanilla minecraft issue from 1.8 that happens on most of the packs(I think its fixed in some mods like Orangemarshall's)
MasterGberry wrote
This will not happen, but if anything they can be re-arranged. Our client is meant to be used anywhere and not just Badlion.
Yeah thats what I meant. Re-arrange the useless options.
MasterGberry wrote
Is this on 20 tps or 128 tps gameplay?
20 TPS. Idk if this happens on 128 too. I didnt get to test it as much.
Posted on 17 April 2017 - 09:24 PM
All the texture bugs are my bad. It are 1.7 packs and while testing I didn't think of that. Has something to do with transpatent pixles that got non transparent in 1.7 but in 1.8 invisible.