Posted on 25 April 2017 - 05:54 PM

So after playing badlion for almost a year in various accounts. I truly admire the server, so please do not take any offense in the things I may question in this proposition. I wish only to help badlion to perhaps move in the right direction. Sadly I dont seek to join the staff, for I am no experienced programmer. Anyways sorry for the long introduction.

So after playing the server, Ive come to the conclusion that the server lacks players. Not because they dont exist but because they arent motivated to play, or for other various reasons. Now you have 2 possible ways to correct such a problem :
- eliminate/merge with the competition like you and many servers have done in the past.
- motivate your players to play more which will lead to an exponential growth

Anyways so my idea was the idea that other competitive games have, which is :
- Rotational Gamemodes.
Now I first saw this in LoL with the gamemode URF and being a mineman,I thought this would be perfect with badlion.
This idea seems quite simple, yet it is really practical for many reasons but for those who might still be reading the post, rotational gamemodes is the concept of having your main gamemode all around the year at disposition to play freely, but occasionally or seasonally there are the side-gamemodes that appear every 3 or 4 weeks.

For badlion's case the main gamemode would be "Arena PvP" and "UHC" and the seasonal gamemodes a.k.a. the events would be anything from : uhc meetup, ctf, ctw, bedwars, sg, uhcsg, skywars.

Of course this concept doesnt complete its course of action if there is no end goal to it to initially motivate the players for the 3 weeks that the gamemode would elapse, people with highest/er ranks will gain small prizes (perhaps a tweet, and spot in the lobby, a month on premium or even some cash)
Perhaps you should have a tournament at the end of each rotation. ( the idea is meant to be played around with and edited.)

So Im not good at explaining my ideas but thought this was interesting to share. So for the pros and cons
The only negative side is :
to the contrary of now, you wont have access to the side gamemodes all around the year.
For the postive effects :
- dont have to finance dead servers all year
- the hype of a new gamemode like ctf wont be gone after a month
-will have excited and motivated players coming on for each gamemode

So all in all, I think I wrote way too much and no one will ever read this but fuck it, I felt like putting it out there. I would mean dearly if someone actually read the main idea i tried to put accross.
@MasterGberry @Archybot
Sorry for tagging you but maybe 1 staff could read this
Thanks for your time :P

Posted on 25 April 2017 - 05:59 PM

servers?
also define "eliminate" that sounds kind of………..dark

Last edited on 25 April 2017 - 09:50 PM by Emogan

1. What server would badlion merge/eliminate?

Let me talk about this.

Badlion first off has to discuss the idea of a merge with the owner and they would both have to agree to certain terms and conditions for both servers to follow. The two servers would most likley spend months deciding what they would keep and get rid of. It's quite a complicated process and would not be an easy one.

You would also have to find a server for Badlion to merge with. What server would you suggest, Minehq? Definitely not due to the fact that the servers have had bad moments in the past and can also be called competing servers for various reasons. You have to be able to give examples of potential servers badlion could merge with and why.

Eliminating servers?

What do you mean by this claim? You say that it has been done several times in the past but I would like to see at least three examples for this. How do you think badlion would go about eliminating servers? You want them to talk bad about the server or try to steal their players? You have to think about the server's reputation as well as player count. How do you think the other servers would react to these actions? Don't you think the actions of Badlion attempting this woud have repercussions?

The rotational gamemode idea is not bad however there are a few things I wish to critique about it:
What gamemodes would you propose that be rotated? Would these touramnets be team style or FFAs?

"Of course this concept doesnt complete its course of action if there is no end goal to it to initially motivate the players for the 3 weeks that the gamemode would elapse, people with highest/er ranks will gain small prizes (perhaps a tweet, and spot in the lobby, a month on premium or even some cash)"
You say the above statment yet there is one flaw with it, What of that about the non donators? You say higher ranked players will win but what if a non donor were to win? What action would you take upon that happening? What do you mean a tweet? A victory tweet? What kind of lobby spot do you propose also?

I understand your idea for the thread however I feel there are too many unanswered questions and many things that need to be elaborated on.

Posted on 26 April 2017 - 06:42 AM

Poor choice of words, Im for sorry for the misunderstanding, but that wasnt the point of the post. It was just to show that there are really on 2 options to growth. Perhaps a better word for it wouldve "beat the competition"

Posted on 26 April 2017 - 07:13 AM

@Emogan
+Purpkey
(I sadly dont know how to tag people :3)
Well first of all thankyou so much for reading the thread, it really made my day.
First let me answer the Rotational Gamemodes questions and then I'll talk about my poor choice of words, but your reply did bring out some interesting points.

"What gamemodes would you propose that be rotated? Would these touramnets be team style or FFAs?"

So for the end goal or tournaments. The team size depends really on the gamemode. But there again this could be another aspect to Rotational gamemodes that makes it even better. Maybe while rotating gamemodes it could be to2/to3/toX or FFA and also if you dont have a teammate you would automatically get paired with someone also in the solo-queue for the team gamemode. (Sort of how the PUG matches work.)

For the rotated gamemodes, that would be completely up to staff for what I had imagined would be : sg, skywars, bedwars, uhc meetup (maybe), ctf, ctw. And then specify FFA or Teams ( does not apply for ctf, ctw and bedwars)

"What of that about the non donators?"

The concept can be on bl open and premium, on open meaning for non-donators aswell. Which could be another support to add more benefits to the donator perk.

"You say higher ranked players will win but what if a non donor were to win? What action would you take upon that happening?"

By higher ranked, I meant ranked as in Gold V, Masters etc I understand your previous question now.

I just realized, I mightve been unclear on that point upon deciding who, and specifically how does someone win the rotation. The way I see it, you could either have the tournament or you can enable stats during the 3 weeks and whoever has the highest rank in terms of Bronze - Masters wins.

"What do you mean a tweet? A victory tweet? What kind of lobby spot do you propose also?"

I did mean a victory tweet (badlion's twitter)
Or a spot in the lobby, maybe a new place could be dedicated in the hub, like a hall of fame or even just a wall with signs or players heads.


Well hopefully with a few more of yur questions you will be able to umderstand what I tried to put out there for rotational gamemodes.
Thankyou so much once more for reading some randy's idea :3

ps: the main point of the post was the rotational gamemode, but for the whole 'eliminating' the competition thid has been done with Badlion and Kohi, not necessarily 'eliminating' but bringing the player base to one pvp server.
Also I wasnt aware of the beef that badlion and minehq their biggest competitor had. But perhaps they can take a step back see past that and in someway come to the realization that theyre both working for the same thing.

.-. That was a long PS anyways I know badlion's hands are extremely full with Badlion Premium, and I cant even imagine the pressure that Turtle Entretainement has on Gberry right now so thankyu for ready once more :P