Last edited on 28 April 2017 - 03:46 PM by TAKEMYS0UL

I'm sure that a lot of you saw that some top players stopped playing Badlion ( Arena mainly ). I talked to a lot of good players, some of them are staff too, and asked them why did they stop playing Arena or Badlion in general. The answer in all cases was that they don't enjoy Arena as they used to and trust me, they played a lot. Won't give any names because I don't want to get them in some trouble or something but the fact is that Arena isn't as played as it has to be. One year ago it used to have around 4-5k people on and now it has only 700-1k.
I'll give you some reasons why people don't enjoy Arena anymore since I'm one of them too:

1) It isn't as competitive as it was one year ago. I understand the fact that ELO is worse than MMR but since Archy said that everybody who says that ELO is better has to explain himself, I'll do it. The first thing that comes in your mind when you think of Badlion is Arena if you're an old Badlion member. When you say Arena, you think of Build, Pot PvP, Bow ladders, tryhard and ELO since it was used for 11 seasons. I'm not good at game mecanics and that kind of stuff but as a player, a really sweaty one, the satisfaction of getting 2100 elo in Build was way bigger than getting Emerald. Idk why but I watched a video from season 9 or 10 I think and I was wondering how simple everything was. There were no big lobbys, no holograms, back then were like 2 or 3 EU lobbys and all of them were full. I was happy and sad at the same time. The reason why I was happy was that I played Badlion back then and now I can remember how simple and nice everything was but at the same time I was really sad because I knew that those times won't come back. Getting back to the Elo and MMR talk, a lot of players prefer ELO because it's more competitive even tough it is old and was meant for chess. Imo not everything that's new, it's good too.

2) The knockback being too delayed and close to none. A lot of people complained with every single kb Badlion had. Even in s11 and s12 kids were complaining about the knockback when it was smooth as hell. The problem with those retards saying "Omg you killed Kohi and fucked the whole kb on Arena too" is that they don't give any reason why the knockback is bad for them so they just disrespect the developers instead of telling what's wrong. The problem with this kb is that it is too vertical and less horizontal. I usually get around 30-50ms on the EU servers since I'm romanian but every time I try to rod someone back, I wake myself up being dead because the rod doesn't make any kb. I watched all Hivlik's videos again in like 3 nights so I can make this thread longer and have an idea what to talk about. The rod and bow kb at the start of s12 was not good, it was really great, almost perfect. Even after the merge with kohi it was good even tough players like Cellsaver started complaining. It became verry laggy and unplayable after the 2nd half of s13. So imo you should increase the horizontal kb by a lot or if you still have some backups from the older season, it would be great to bring the old kb back.

3) The ladders are not ballanced. Idk how to explain this but Hivlik talked about this in one of his elo series. There are more sword based kits then bow based. I heard that you will bring back Sky Wars in s15 but it's not sure. I heard aswell that you'll remove Vanilla and Horse. I really don't want you to remove those kits since Badlion has Vanilla from the very beginning and that kit made a lot of people like HattoWolf, Drummer, Danteh, Fortunity and Freek famous for their skill in pot management. And the thing with Horse is that it really is kinda ping based like Archy said but it is skill based aswell since yoh have to focus on your horse movememt and aim for your opponent at the same time. Changing Archer and Soup was again a thing I didn't like since Soup without speed is more ping based and tbh it just regular iron with soups, nothing special. And Archer…Dank, idk how to explain why speed 1 is better than speed 2. It is kinda harder to predict where your opponent is going and if he's lagging it will be even worse. Removing punch and pearls didn't really help with anything since you still can bow rush with speed 2 and that's why I don't really like it.

4) I shouldn't talk about this since it's not my business but all those players that I talked to about what's going on ( including some staff members ) said that they're not agreeing with the priorities the owners have since they focus way to much on Premium and I think that's right. I understand that they want to make it bugfree and everything but they kinda forgot about what made them famous in this dank game. They kept spending too much time with Premium and left Badlion open full of bugs such as a lot of lag ( At least on the EU servers ), sometimes the host breakes and you just lose MMR points even tough you were winning the fight, and the bugs that I talked about above.

Hopefully this thread will get some support and it will help the owners and developers focus more on Badlion and make something really great with season 15 like they did with every season till s13.
-Kind regards, Andrei.

Posted on 26 April 2017 - 11:40 PM

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Posted on 26 April 2017 - 11:46 PM

This was a pretty well made thread with some valid points. I'll coment more on it tomorrow though.

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 03:04 AM

*Reserved*

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 09:50 AM

Is minecraft finally reaching it's end? :o

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 10:26 AM

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Posted on 27 April 2017 - 11:57 AM

I agree with your point 3 and I believe they're changing the kits around in season 15. I disagree somewhat with 1/2 however point 4 I'm 50/50 on, the owners did basically only focus on premium for a few months but it was necessary, premium is the gateway to Minecraft becoming something of an ESport. Now it's out I'm guessing one of the main focuses is going to be season 15.

I'm hopeful that season 15 is what it's promised to be and I think Badlion's currently heading the right way.

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 12:33 PM

Dude why are you sending your school essay to us

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 03:27 PM

Good thread. You actually did research and you didn't complain.

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 03:42 PM

Ty

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 03:43 PM

It would be really nice if @MasterGberry would say his opinion too.

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 03:46 PM

Paragraphs pls

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 04:08 PM

Do you think I care about that?

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 04:12 PM

https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/167923

Last edited on 27 April 2017 - 04:17 PM by TAKEMYS0UL

Bruh, the kb is still not horizontal and rod & bows still don't do any kb, Imma wait but I don't think they added more horizontal kb, they just fixed some lag issues which had an influence on kb and hit reg, nothing much imo

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 04:19 PM

Even though it's 100% true and arena is dead compared to what it used to be?

Last edited on 27 April 2017 - 04:54 PM by Kiivo

I was thinking, might be too late is S15 is nearing completion but couldn't BL have another mini-season like S13 where its the exact same as S14 is now but the stats are reset?

Last edited on 27 April 2017 - 04:57 PM by TAKEMYS0UL

I'm quitting Minecraft if there will be another season like this one

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM

mmr is way better than elo, made the game so competitive that top players quit because it was too hard XD

Posted on 27 April 2017 - 09:52 PM

you're joking right?