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Give Badlion Client a Chance

Jarecl wrote

Verillium wrote...

im talking about the client not premium that's a whole other thing

oh im talking premium since cb is supposed to have similar things like servers where only cb users can join like blp
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Can't give it a chance if it doesn't let you play. It always logs me out, and I've never had it work once. They need to fix this shit
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stop lol ur feeding the administration's ego and then things like elo coming back wont happen
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AnimatedAnimator wrote

In my opinion, here is how I look at it.

If you want to play 1.8.9 PvP, use Badlion Client.

If you want to play 1.7 PvP, use CheatBreaker.

Easy as pie.


I agree with this, and also the BLC does not feel anywhere near to 1.7 pvp. I dont look for looks and color I looked for the pvp and in my opinion it does not have any feel to 1.7
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Why don't you just let people play what they find more fun. Alow full competition between the two whichever one is used more is more fun and will thrive while the other adapts. Simple.

No point stroking the ego let it just compete. Imo Badlion should do a Second launch with a new update as the first one kinda flopped.
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iHackLiTE wrote

stop lol ur feeding the administration's ego and then things like elo coming back wont happen
-_- you haven't even played cheatbreaker how do you know it's not absolute shit

what does ELO have to do with Badlion Client at fucking all like wtf dude
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Jarecl wrote

iHackLiTE wrote...

-_- you haven't even played cheatbreaker how do you know it's not absolute shit

what does ELO have to do with Badlion Client at fucking all like wtf dude

i said nothing about the badlion client, my point was if you boost their ego about badlion premium being good when many MANY MANY things need to be fixed before its considered good, then you'll boost their ego about everything else too. then they get overconfident about their own decisions and will listen to the community less (example ELO, it took forever for badlion to finally accept that elo was wanted more than mmr) badlion consistently makes poor decisions that they're too stubborn to change for the majority that wants it. you're making that worse.

i half expect a long rant-essay from archy listing me points about his projects and future plans that he never lives up to



anyway addressing the title, badlion has been given a million chances, and always disappoints. it screwed up the kb, but then LIED about fixing it (it never got fixed). badlion killed kohi when they promised a beautiful merge. badlion promised that premium would be exactly like 1.7, yet it feels wonkier than 1.8 itself, and the gui looks like they pulled it off of minesweeper

so yea id definitely give badlion some chances if the community hadnt already been disappointed a hundred times

if anyone gets upset about this post then its their own problem. kinda ridiculous how when anyone gives out a truthful and honest opinion, they get called out for "bitching" (bitching meaning they didnt give you the feedback you wanted) and get forum banned because they put someone's panties in a wad
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Panda_Chips wrote

I'm pretty sure the Badlion Client was in development for longer but idk. Anyways good thread, I approve


Actually the first commit for the Badlion Client was technically October 20th…but i think we had prototyped some very basic things before then at the end of September at the earliest.
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Well honestly………..
I don't have both of the clients and I don't know shit about them
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iHackLiTE wrote


minehq hasnt consistently disappointed everyone it made promises to.


If you're going to circlejerk, do it right and don't tell lies


The amount of work we could get done if we just shut off everything for even a month would be unreal. They haven't hit a deadline because, quite frankly, idiots like you circlejerk about anything that isn't perfection. This wasn't how it was a year ago and older where we could release something half done and work over time to perfect it, and it's the main reason they haven't "failed their promises" because they will delay it over and over because of how the community reacts and just don't release anything ever unless it's near perfection or has a whole sellout community behind it hyping it up.

This is the EXACT reason why S15 beta and UHC6 beta isn't out, because the "new community" has made it very clear they don't want anything besides completed projects.
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Archybot wrote

iHackLiTE wrote...

the "new community" has made it very clear they don't want anything besides completed projects.

Glad we could agree on something

werent any lies in there tho, minehq only delayed. i thought i listed some pretty specific broken promises that the badlion network made?
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Archybot wrote

iHackLiTE wrote...

circlejerk

sometimes bandwagons arent bandwagons. sometimes they're just truth
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iHackLiTE wrote



werent any lies in there tho, minehq only delayed.


According to your wonderful logic I can now say we have decided to delay all of 1.7 features inside of 1.8. We will be releasing them over time. Now I no longer lied according to you!

Literally delaying is the exact same thing as releasing unfinished and patching it over time -> the shit gets finished at the same time, it just whether or not you got to play it sooner.

And I hate to break it to you, but we did change a lot of KB delay related stuff so saying we lied about that when you can easily test it with default minecraft logs just shows your utter stupidity. Obviously changing KB delay means we need to update KB values, but we're waiting for S15 for that.
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Archybot wrote

iHackLiTE wrote...


actually the changes you made did not improve the kb. you gave it more verticle movement, but the reason that people dont like the kb is still there. if you really think im bullshitting with that one, i could easily make a detailed video on why people still dont like it, and the issue that's still there even after you edited the kb. its pretty simple, really. since i know you like the detailed explanation threads with actual proof (although only when it doesnt contradict anything you've already tried to say)

basically odd hits (first hit, third hit, fifth hit) have different movements than even hits (second hit, fourth hit, sixth hit) and it makes the server feel wonky and as if players were sliding against the ground, rather than smooth easy-to-combo-in-pot kb where each hit gives the same movement
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Archybot wrote

iHackLiTE wrote...

According to your wonderful logic I can now say we have decided to delay all of 1.7 features inside of 1.8. We will be releasing them over time. Now I no longer lied according to you!

i said more than one thing, and even so ill believe it when i see it
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Jarecl wrote

_GuessWho_ wrote...

^^^^^^

that one bug kinda kills it for me if it weren't for that I'd use it all the time


Yeah same XD
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iHackLiTE wrote

Archybot wrote...


actually the changes you made did not improve the kb. you gave it more verticle movement, but the reason that people dont like the kb is still there. if you really think im bullshitting with that one, i could easily make a detailed video on why people still dont like it, and the issue that's still there even after you edited the kb. its pretty simple, really. since i know you like the detailed explanation threads with actual proof (although only when it doesnt contradict anything you've already tried to say)

basically odd hits (first hit, third hit, fifth hit) have different movements than even hits (second hit, fourth hit, sixth hit) and it makes the server feel wonky and as if players were sliding against the ground, rather than smooth easy-to-combo-in-pot kb where each hit gives the same movement


I'm going to let you re-read my post really hard. I said I didn't adjust KB values, and old KB values are based on expected delay, which means KB is going to feel weird until I also update values to match the no delay, which I am not doing until S15 beta.
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what we just want right now is elo and for the bugs to be fixed really, premium isn't something we're all looking forwards to anymore. I literally only log on for half an hour a week in total to duel friends but I can't even do that because of that gay glitch where we keep getting the 'player is already in a match' message
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Verillium wrote

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BLP services like 128tps and pugs aren't free which would be the only reason to use the client, wouldn't need it for other servers since they're not BAC enabled and you'll fight cheaters anyway lol
Same thing with CB. You only need it for servers it's required on.
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