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I would give the client a chance, but Mac users can't run it. That's why I'm opposed to all clientsided anticheats. It bans 8% of the community falsely which even the BL owners say they don't like to do.
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PullUpShotEm wrote

I would give the client a chance, but Mac users can't run it. That's why I'm opposed to all clientsided anticheats. It bans 8% of the community falsely which even the BL owners say they don't like to do.


What the fuck? Where the hell did we say that client side anticheats false ban?

Just clarifying that all our client side anticheat bans are 100% accurate. As far as GCheat goes 8% is wayyyyy off from the false ban percentage. It is a fraction of a percent at worst.
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Verillium wrote

and most of that is the price point. mc isn't competitive enough to be paying $10/month for it yet and forcing it is gonna kill it.


I do agree with that point, why does it have to be so expensive?
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naimsm wrote

Verillium wrote...



I do agree with that point, why does it have to be so expensive?


Netflix starts at $8/month
Spotify costs $10/month
World of Warcraft costs $15/month
Star Wars the Old Republic costs $15/month

$10/month is more than reasonable for the amount of content you are getting (and more to come) will come out of Badlion Premium.

Please keep in mind the Badlion Client is 100% free to download and has a ton of features built in already that cost $0.

We have to pay our team/server bills and all of the stuff we are paying for now has a large monthly bill.
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MasterGberry wrote

PullUpShotEm wrote...



What the fuck? Where the hell did we say that client side anticheats false ban?

Just clarifying that all our client side anticheat bans are 100% accurate. As far as GCheat goes 8% is wayyyyy off from the false ban percentage. It is a fraction of a percent at worst.
No, I'm saying ever Mac user is being false banned the client itself works great.
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PullUpShotEm wrote

MasterGberry wrote...

No, I'm saying ever Mac user is being false banned the client itself works great.


I am so confused
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MasterGberry wrote

naimsm wrote...



Netflix starts at $8/month
Spotify costs $10/month
World of Warcraft costs $15/month
Star Wars the Old Republic costs $15/month

$10/month is more than reasonable for the amount of content you are getting (and more to come) will come out of Badlion Premium.

Please keep in mind the Badlion Client is 100% free to download and has a ton of features built in already that cost $0.

We have to pay our team/server bills and all of the stuff we are paying for now has a large monthly bill.


Some games learn of their errors and become free to play like swtor, and here we're speaking about a feature into a game, like faceit or esea on cs:go which cost 5 dollars per months, it's not like u guys were selling us a game, even if i understand that you need to monthly pay your devs, I feel like 10 dollars a months is too much.
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MasterGberry wrote

PullUpShotEm wrote...



I am so confused
Every person that is a Mac user that can't install bootcamp is essentially banned from this part of the server. Thats what I'm saying. I called it a false ban because that's basically what it is.
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Or maybe this community can stop being fucking idiots and just use both? I don't see why you can't use both. You guys literally turn everything into a competition and it's fucking annoying; it's why this community is, and always has been, absolute shit. Literally just use both. Who the fuck cares lol
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MasterGberry wrote

naimsm wrote...



Netflix starts at $8/month
Spotify costs $10/month
World of Warcraft costs $15/month
Star Wars the Old Republic costs $15/month

$10/month is more than reasonable for the amount of content you are getting (and more to come) will come out of Badlion Premium.

Please keep in mind the Badlion Client is 100% free to download and has a ton of features built in already that cost $0.

We have to pay our team/server bills and all of the stuff we are paying for now has a large monthly bill.

but there's so many legal alternatives to badlion that are decent whereas alternatives to netflix are illegal or the same price, spotify same thing, WoW is an entire game not just a server, same with star wars. i think theres just too many alternatives for it to be worth paying especially since its not as competitive as other games
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Can you use badlion client on other servers without getting banned?
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I haven't used Badlion Premium for months, I dislike the first experience I originally had with it… Buggy, took a long time to release (Including misleading release dates), looks like 1.8, the inactivity in other GM's.


(I don't intend on pissing off developers or admins, just sharing an opinion.)
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MasterGberry wrote

naimsm wrote...



Netflix starts at $8/month
Spotify costs $10/month
World of Warcraft costs $15/month
Star Wars the Old Republic costs $15/month

$10/month is more than reasonable for the amount of content you are getting (and more to come) will come out of Badlion Premium.

Please keep in mind the Badlion Client is 100% free to download and has a ton of features built in already that cost $0.

We have to pay our team/server bills and all of the stuff we are paying for now has a large monthly bill.

Netflix is a service where you can watch thousands of tv shows and movies unlimited.
Spotify gives you unlimited music
World of Warcraft is a whole MMO with a giant world and tons of content and tons of people.
Star Wars the Old Republic is the same case as WoW.
Club Penguin used to be $10 a month also


Comparing the amount of content Badlion Premium has to any of those is nuts.You can PVP on regular Minecraft for free.
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MasterGberry wrote

naimsm wrote...



Netflix starts at $8/month
Spotify costs $10/month
World of Warcraft costs $15/month
Star Wars the Old Republic costs $15/month

$10/month is more than reasonable for the amount of content you are getting (and more to come) will come out of Badlion Premium.

Please keep in mind the Badlion Client is 100% free to download and has a ton of features built in already that cost $0.

We have to pay our team/server bills and all of the stuff we are paying for now has a large monthly bill.


id pay 10 dollars a month for minecraft itself, but not on a specific server where only a limited part of the game is playable (the pvp part).

you're listing suscriptions for full programs, when you yourself are selling a subscription for a specific server of a full program. goodness would it be god awful if i had to pay to connect to a specific server on a vpn, or a specific server on WOW, or any game for that matter. i dont plan on paying for premium myself either, unless i get into that referral credit stuff, or premium manages to become mind-blowing-ly amazing

i know badlion administration is made of money, but the minecraft community full of 8-12 year olds that use their mother's spotify and netlflix accounts for free does not have money.
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iHackLiTE wrote...



I'm going to let you re-read my post really hard. I said I didn't adjust KB values, and old KB values are based on expected delay, which means KB is going to feel weird until I also update values to match the no delay, which I am not doing until S15 beta.

so what you're saying is you've yet to edit the kb, when you said you wouldve already (you have most definitely said in the past that it wouldve already been done at this point)?

alright, so if you actually live up to your word/the community's expectations this time, i will forever continue calling the current state of badlion really disappointing and kinda bad, but i will then begin to praise the new and improved s15/premium. but only if it meets your word/our expectations. ive praised badlion many times in the past so im not being irrational here.

there is no current bad state of disappointment in the minehq community, so please dont try to link something like that again

until then, im waiting for the improvements the community hopes to happen, so we'll see



all that trouble you go through complaining about how the community reacts poorly to your decisions… you yourself could easily reduce the complaints if not get rid of it completely. and no i dont mean banning everyone that doesnt agree.
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iHackLiTE wrote


i think badlion has made it very clear that they want the community to only use premium and not cheatbreaker. otherwise they wouldnt ban cheatbreaker (a completely harmless program) from their staff members claiming that minehq might be trying to leak badlion info (completely ridiculous)


Jhalt can hand over the full source code to me if he wants our staff to use it, especially based off of his past actions + some of his developers/admins current opinions of Badlion staff. I don't let BL staff use hacked clients either minus open sourced (or code that I can read) mods such as the xray mod we use, so why would I allow them to use a program that literally uses their MC token/email/password and can literally take files off of their computer.

They can use it if they want, they just aren't allowed to be staff on my server anymore.
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Archybot wrote

iHackLiTE wrote...



Jhalt can hand over the full source code to me if he wants our staff to use it, especially based off of his past actions + some of his developers/admins current opinions of Badlion staff. I don't let BL staff use hacked clients either minus open sourced (or code that I can read) mods such as the xray mod we use, so why would I allow them to use a program that literally uses their MC token/email/password and can literally take files off of their computer.

They can use it if they want, they just aren't allowed to be staff on my server anymore.

im pretty sure cheatbreaker isnt all just a big hoax and just some lowkey attempt at getting files from badlion staff

plus the way you and gberry act towards people expressing their preferences (premium/cheatbreaker) would also lead me to believe the same thing
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iHackLiTE wrote

Archybot wrote...


im pretty sure cheatbreaker isnt all just a big hoax and just some lowkey attempt at getting files from badlion staff


When did I say it was a hoax? I say it's a security risk that I'm not willing to take, just like sharing your password (which also gets you demoted).
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iHackLiTE wrote...



According to your wonderful logic I can now say we have decided to delay all of 1.7 features inside of 1.8. We will be releasing them over time. Now I no longer lied according to you!

Literally delaying is the exact same thing as releasing unfinished and patching it over time -> the shit gets finished at the same time, it just whether or not you got to play it sooner.

And I hate to break it to you, but we did change a lot of KB delay related stuff so saying we lied about that when you can easily test it with default minecraft logs just shows your utter stupidity. Obviously changing KB delay means we need to update KB values, but we're waiting for S15 for that.

yep lets just ruin kb for the rest of a season and expect players to come back for the next
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Verillium wrote

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yep lets just ruin kb for the rest of a season and expect players to come back for the next
i dont like verillium but i gotta agree
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