Last edited on 26 May 2017 - 01:48 AM by MasterGberry

Just want to add to what Archybot had said above. While clans will get some upgrades on Badlion Open we always feel that clans will be a more fun/casual form of competitive versus a real hard core version of it. The real hard core version of competitive team fighting is coming to the Badlion Client & Badlion Premium soon. Needless to say the real real competitive stuff with cash prizes on the line needs to be behind BAC.

As far as the actual requests in this thread:

(1) More than 1 owner isn't happening. That's just not how it's programmed. It might be possible to add more ranks in the middle though besides just officer, member, recruit.
(2) Customizing all of these things is something we have thought about and it has been something that i've had ideas for a long time now. The reality is I can make it really fucking nice with a list of features like this:

1. Custom Banners
2. Custom Logos
3. Custom Tags in game for clan chat
4. Custom Rank names
5. Ability to create your own forum boards and moderate them better
6. Internal leaderboards on your clan to actually have on things like arenapvp and what not. The ability to possibly take a kit and make a "ranked" leaderboard out of it for your clan members or whatever.
7. The ability to share clan chat between in game and the badlion website
8. Possibly multiple clan chat channels in game and on the badlion website
9. More floating ideas

The problem with all of these ideas I just listed above is that for this amount of extra work we would for sure need to be charging for some of these features, as it would take a very large chunk of development time to add all of these complex things. Is this something the top clans would feel comfortable paying for on a monthly or yearly basis? Obviously we could make it so that anyone in the clan can help pay for these things instead of just the owner if we went down this path.

Tagging some of the largest clan leaders here for feedback on this point. @Kiivo @Blaszczak @GayBootyCheeks @Luministe @Japple @OfficialTryHard @Ryhuko @RejectedHexxit @WavyGelato @Kellyx19 @amed1339 @Mzstang

(3) Something that already exists for some game modes but could definitely use a clean up which will come when we finish taking apart the mainframe as it is directly integrated into this at the moment.

Last edited on 26 May 2017 - 02:14 AM by GayBootyCheeks

Hm. I'll give my thoughts on all of this, and try to give some constructive input on it.

1. Custom Banners - great idea. Not much more I can add to this, other than I think that it pretty nice.

2. Custom Logos - This would help to polish the aesthetic part of clans.

3. Custom Tags in game for clan chat - From this, I think you mean that if an officer types in clan chat it would say 'officer' in front of his name? If that is the case then yes I think this is a great idea. Not much input on this.

4. Custom Rank names - I really like this, and this was one of my main suggestions. The ability to create a rank for your clan on the forums with any name (ex. Elite, Officer+ etc.) and assign them certain permissions.

5. Ability to create your own forum boards and moderate them better. I also really like this idea. It would help in terms of organization with announcements and different things related to that.

6. Internal leaderboards on your clan to actually have on things like arenapvp and what not. The ability to possibly take a kit and make a "ranked" leaderboard out of it for your clan members or whatever. - I really like this idea. It would create competition among the players, and push people to get even further (especially in large clans)

7. The ability to share clan chat between in game and the badlion website - Nice addition

8. Possibly multiple clan chat channels in game and on the badlion website - I'm not sure about this because this seems as though it could get very hectic if done incorrectly. They should definitely be toggleable and should be 100% changeable by officers/owners.

8. More floating ideas

My Ideas:

1. Create a new staff rank that helps remove clan 'scumminess'. I apologize for lack of a better term, but what I mean by this is just anything a clan does that is basically cheating. Like I know most people don't care, but it's pretty annoying when clans post a win when they lost, or make up stuff, or just in general lie to everyone. Things like this. The rank is far-fetched – I know. Just thought I'd throw this idea out there. There's much more the rank could do, and it would be hard to decide who gets it. It would make sense to give it to trusted community members, and also current staff members, but other than that I'm not sure.

2. CB Organization - Now, I think this is going to be possibly in BL Premium, but I'm not 100% certain. Basically, it just would be great to make it so that CB's (clan battles) are much more organized. Like maybe a /cb command that keeps track of score and allows both teams to do like /redo and the round is redone, stuff like this. There are many other ideas that I'm sure could be added to this, but at the moment this is all I am going to put.

3. Clan Calendar - This is something that is really needed. A calender that can be found on the website if you are in a clan. Officers and Owners can assign scrims and CB's to certain dates, and you can check to see when they are. On the day of the CB/Scrim, you are notified on the website (and maybe IG?).

4. Multiple Clan IP Checker - This is not 100% necessary, but it sounds like something that could be useful for Ominous. They have a rule that basically states that you are only allowed to be in 1 clan at a time. This would just check all the accounts on the IP and see if they are in different clans. It wouldn't kick them or anything, just notify the owners/officers. ALSO NOTE - this would be toggleable by the clan leader

5. Public Clan Leaderboards - A leaderboard that is accessible to the entire public, and shows how many players are in the clan, how long the clan has been alive, and how much rating it has. Maybe clan ELO? Not sure. Also, it would be REALLY cool to see clan averages. Like a fake player on the website with the name of your clan and it has the averages in every kit from all the players in your clan. An example of this (if I didn't explain very well) is like saying you go to the leaderboards and click on Rift and see the average. It links you to a 'Rift Average' elo page and like global is averaged and everything. This would help players see how heavy a clan is in SG or Build etc. It would also encourage clans to have higher skilled players.

6. Clan Rating. This goes along with the /cb command idea. And also idea #5. ELO leaderboards for clans?

7. Verified Clans - There should be a forum section for the verified clans. The biggest. more established clans are only in this section. I really think this would be cool because there's so much shitposting in the clan section it is unreal. Like having a section with just Rift, Ominous, Stride - something like that. Obviously probably more, but I just think it would be cool.

8. Togglable /cc - I know I already made a thread on this. Just thought I should put it here so it is not forgotten.

9. Cooldown On Making Clans - Some people make clans like every day, and then they continue to post them in the forums section. It's annoying. Maybe like a week or 2 days or something

10. Clan Join/Leave Delay - Make it so that once you join a clan you can't leave for 2 days, and once you leave a clan you can't join another one for 2 days. This prevents people being unloyal, basically. It encourages people to think before they actually join a clan. (I imagine this would be argued about a lot)

11. Customized Player List For Leaders - It would be really cool to see a list of players who have been in clans, but are no longer in them, or have left recently. Maybe like something where you could look at the top leaderboards and sort it by clan. See who's in what clan, and who's not. That way you could try to recruit the people who are not. This is something that most people don't think about. We have literally gone through certain sections of the leaderboards and clicked on their profiles to see if they were in clans. This is great for new clans.

12. Clan 'Verified' Application - This would probably be something like an application that has certain requirements. I imagine it would be something like this

-Must have been in existence for 2 months.
-Must have done ? CB's
-Must have ? many players

There's a lot of ways people could go about this.

Things Wrong With Clans:

- Inactivity. I'm not sure how exactly to fix this, but the best way would be to add the above features and season 15 lol.

- It is too easy to say that you beat other clans on your forum page. Like people can lose 0-15 and be like "yeah we railed them". There needs to be some form of moderation to this because while it may seem small it gets pretty annoying when clans don't keep to their word.

- As for paying for these. I 100% would be fine to pay for these features. Maybe like a 'Clan Owner' rank that can be bought from the store, and it would enable all of these features for the clan. I've already money on the clan (servers and stuff like that) so this is definitely something I would be willing to pay for. That being said, do not make it too much. Like I would be willing to pay like probably $5-$10 a month tops. I think $15 a month would be a bit pricey, but maybe if all of the features above were added I would be interested.

There's my input one everything so yeah. Let me know if I left anything out. This is what I think clans need and don't need.-



edit #1: Just thought of this. It might be a bit extra, but clan battle referees would be cool. When clans are battling there is a ref who specs every match and decides whether or not a round should be redone - things like that. Not sure who would get it or how it would be given. Maybe like a /referee IGN type command that both clans type(this also goes along with the /cb type deal).

edit #2: oooo also something that would be nice is when you queue against someone that is in your clan in ranked, you get a popup that says "They are in your clan. Continue fighting?". This prevents people killing each other in clans and getting mad at each other. Happens quite a bit. This would also be toggleable by the clan leader. If either of the players say "No" then the match is voided. Although this could be abused so not sure.

edit #3: Also maybe a clan armband? Toggleabl by owners. In game you get a custom arm band on your skin if your in a clan. So if you queue against someone and see they have a certain armband you might recognize they are in a certain clan. This could be switched out for different part of the skin

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 03:03 AM

Cool ideas here, hope we get something soon because we're waiting for concrete things in clans for more than 2 years now.

Focus on game-based new features and forum leaderboards for clans (and you could chose to see the oldest, the biggest, the "best" based on CB, …) and not on banners or logos or whatever. It could be cool but that's not a priority. We just want to play competitive team matches in good conditions. Don't forget that not everybody will have access to Badlion Premium, so don't put all your work on it.

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 04:27 AM

Ideas are pretty good.

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 05:22 AM

So maybe having the to create our own roster pages with all ranks of our choosing just like the forum page, all the items are there to create a personalised page the only limit is the page creators imagination?

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 05:24 AM

I'd love to have the old system were it showed the clans average elo in each kit and global, I thought that was pretty cooolio.

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 05:27 AM

This sounds promising :)

Last edited on 26 May 2017 - 06:29 AM by Loreyx19

+1 Great ideas!

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 06:40 AM

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I'll give a few of my opinions to this.

What @MasterGberry said sounds really nice to have and I'd certainly be willing to contribute towards making this a reality.

A few suggestions about @GayBootyCheeks's ideas:

1-6 are great ideas.

7 I do not think is overly necessary considering we've already got a section on the forums when a clan is created. https://gyazo.com/24e61534ce308301023be08525dbf8f4

8 Not really a necessity having multiple chats for it, just one toggleable on/off would be fine.

Your ideas:

1. Would be amazing!

2. I think this is more referring to in-clanwar organisation. Its a good idea for when a clan war has started, however, if this was also referring to the actually organising of a clan war, I personally think it should remain non-automated, (If that was what you were also referring to).

3. This would be good, the way I see it working is like this. The leader or officer of the clan puts the: date, kits, (5v5 or 4v4), time, (bo3 or bo5) and max rounds all on the calendar on the date they would like a clan war, and then having other clan leaders or officers able to accept the ones the want, then the other clan is notified on the forums that is has been accepted. This would be a great idea, but maybe a small addon to this would be a clan ranking system on people around your rank can accept the clan war, meaning all clans will have to fight others around their skill range, meaning top clans can't just grind wins of smaller ones or something to the same effect.

4. This idea is an interesting one, however, the matter of privacy and safety could be at risk here, I wouldn't trust just anybody with this sort of power.

5. Great

6. Agreed.

7. Sounds really good but should be very special and not easy to obtain.

8. This idea would be a godsend.

9-10. I personally do not think this is something that would exactly benefit the clan community all that much, at the end of the day, its just a thread on the forums which can be ignored, so I'm not bothered by it.

11. Maybe cut this idea down to just the ability to see a player clan history on the forums, showing joined and left dates.

12. I'd rather it be much harder to get, making the rank a lot more special and potentially more highly looked upon by other clans (And only allowing it for a certain rank like Member+ and above in the clan, otherwise a full 60 player clan might get it and that would ruin the rarity). The questions you had were good but I'd change them to make them look more like this:

- Must have been in existence for 1 year.
- Must of uploaded at least 10 Badlion clan war videos. (Example)
(Of the clan thats applying). (This way the Clan that gets verified has also helped promote Badlion and its clans).
+ more

—- Your Edits:

1. This would only really work if there was a certain rank for it, because Arena Staff are busy and won't be able to take their time for free just to spectate a clan war, it would be unfair of clans to ask this of them, and should only be asked of people maybe with the 'Clan Spectator' (Example Name) rank as they would be signing up to moderate and spectate official clan wars.

2. An interesting idea, however, I believe that when you get ranked with someone that's how it is meant to be and there should be no way out of the fight, you've gotta play, because in ranked, you Queue at your own risk taking that risk of queuing strong players away could just spoil it in my opinion. But an interesting idea none the less, maybe if it was capped at being able to be done 2 times a day or something it would be less exploitable.

3. The idea of a clan armband is a bit weird, however, the principle is good, and so I'd say it should tigh in with verified clans, have this idea only show for verified clans, but have it as more of a rank rather than an armband.

Other than that this is all good.

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 06:45 AM

+1

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 07:12 AM

Great idea!

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 07:37 AM

No, because time doesn't count when they aren't in the clan

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 07:38 AM

If put into action I think all of these features are really nice and would benefit the clan community. I especially like features 1 through 4. I would definitely be willing to pay for this.

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 07:39 AM

Ye ik, but KarliXon said it needed a revamp, not me

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 07:40 AM

Great idea. Me and SirDeqdly are co-leaders of Parasite, but we have officer rank as that's the only other rank related to leader.

With the banner and logo thing, I feel like the better art you get, the more professional you look so people will want to CB your clan more.

Great ideas.

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 07:44 AM

@MasterGberry @Archybot Thanks a lot for reading all the suggestions and taking your time with Badlion Clans, hopefully this will bring back the Clan Community and I am very excited to see these changes made.

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 08:22 AM

my msg was directed to the owners not to you

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 08:25 AM

the main problems I see here(and why most clan members could deny this "offer")are the facts that its a monthly or a yearly subscription rather than a lifetime feature and that Badlion Client doesnt have such a good reputation right now

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 12:38 PM

Clans should also extend to uhc, sg, and even ctw/ctf. Clan uhcs have been highly asked upon in the past weeks by myself and others. (A lot of ytbers are in most clans dw) Sg cws would be a ton of fun to implement and easier to use. In the clan page thing there are the wins and losses of sg matches I believe but no one knows how to use it. Some sg players that'll give some input if needed @BatistaBombUrMom @Eddiler @Koaloo @Rockky @MCUnbreakable

Posted on 26 May 2017 - 03:32 PM

Great idea(s), but before we can realise this, there needs to be more competitivity. There are only 3 big clans which isn't enough to realise some/most of these ideas.