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Arena s15 elo goals

Ryankoo1 wrote

KarliXon wrote...


Nothing against setting your goals high, but 2500 elo in build seems unrealistic


I always wanted to get this and Ill try my best for it
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DonaldTrumpBad wrote

SirDeadly wrote...

Hahahha man you live in the past. Nobody expect for you and your cringy gang cares about s12 elo because it was everything but skill based. This is present and I'm better so deal with it.
First of all, nice joke.

Many people care about season12 and the ELO system. You must've forgotten the time when Bring back elo threads were made daily and people that are semi known would make videos, threads about bringing back ELO. Archy was sick and tired of all of them and he tweeted out saying "Elo is evil and will never come back."

So your statement is wrong.
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SirDeadly wrote

DonaldTrumpBad wrote...

First of all, nice joke.

Many people care about season12 and the ELO system. You must've forgotten the time when Bring back elo threads were made daily and people that are semi known would make videos, threads about bringing back ELO. Archy was sick and tired of all of them and he tweeted out saying "Elo is evil and will never come back."

So your statement is wrong.
Oh correct me if I'm wrong but the best players were invited to test the s13 ranking system and everyone liked it, it was mostly bad people who couldn't live without the numbers and started spamming Archybot. (there are few exceptions like karl but they're the minority). I'm actually going to tag @Archybot right here because you clearly understand that mmr represents skill and elo represents luck, time spent playing and some skill.
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The people that liked ELO and wanted it back can't be counted as minority. I remember a strawpoll that @KarliXon or haris made and so many people voted for bringing ELO back.

@Kimojiiiiii
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Archer - 1900
UHC - 1800
Diamond - 2100 - 2200
Iron - 2000
SG - 2000 maybe 2100
Debuff - 2000
Gapple - 2000
NoDebuff - 2000
IronSoup - 2100
BuildUHC - 2400

Global - 2040
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SirDeadly wrote

The people that liked ELO and wanted it back can't be counted as minority. I remember a strawpoll that @KarliXon or haris made and so many people voted for bringing ELO back.

@Kimojiiiiii
Did you read what I just said? I said that out of the invited players (They were at the top) almost all of them liked mmr better than elo. So the actual good people who thought mmr was better than elo were the majority.
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DonaldTrumpBad wrote

SirDeadly wrote...

Did you read what I just said? I said that out of the invited players (They were at the top) almost all of them liked mmr better than elo. So the actual good people who thought mmr was better than elo were the majority.
I remember them inviting 10 to 20 people and that's NOT the majority. I'll try to find the strawpoll.

Edit: https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/130375

and https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/146102

And the strawpoll is apperantly removed. https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/130798

As you can see in the last thread I linked, it was edited my unwise and if you scroll to the bottom of the first post the strawpoll link was snipped.


Wish I could've shown the strawpoll tho :/


@Kimojiiiiii
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SirDeadly wrote

Radioactivebeans wrote...

That's elo this is MMR. I really don't take this season seriously. Oh and also are you talking about my Iron goal? Because I never said I expected to be 1800 in anything. And again I would say stuff but I'm not allowed to.


I was talking globally
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SirDeadly wrote

DonaldTrumpBad wrote...

I remember them inviting 10 to 20 people and that's NOT the majority. I'll try to find the strawpoll.
Are you missing a few brain cells? I said the majority of the INVITED PLAYERS prefered mmr over elo. And those invited players were considered great.
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Radioactivebeans wrote

SirDeadly wrote...



I was talking globally
I wouldn't say my goal is absurd since I was 1732 Global in season12.
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SirDeadly wrote

DonaldTrumpBad wrote...

I remember them inviting 10 to 20 people and that's NOT the majority. I'll try to find the strawpoll.

Edit: https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/130375

and https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/146102

And the strawpoll is apperantly removed. https://www.badlion.net/forum/thread/130798

As you can see in the last thread I linked, it was edited my unwise and if you scroll to the bottom of the first post the strawpoll link was snipped.


Wish I could've shown the strawpoll tho :/


@Kimojiiiiii
That's only showing that more people want elo than mmr. You still don't understand my point, I'm not sure if it's because of your english knowledge or you're simply dumb. Let me simplify it to you as well as I can: More good/very good people think mmr is better than elo.
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DonaldTrumpBad wrote

SirDeadly wrote...

That's only showing that more people want elo than mmr. You still don't understand my point, I'm not sure if it's because of your english knowledge or you're simply dumb. Let me simplify it to you as well as I can: More good/very good people think mmr is better than elo.
Thats only out of 20 players then if that's even true. I never saw someone say the players that were chosen like MMR more than ELO.


Show me one proof. Where is it written that out of those people MMR was more liked? I showed you my proof.


And you're the one that's lacking brain cells. You keep repeating the same thing over and over thinking I didn't understand you.
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Season 12 elo means absolutely nothing, it is mostly used by players that have gotten worse compared to the rest of the community over time to prove they are not bad
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SirDeadly wrote

DonaldTrumpBad wrote...

Thats only out of 20 players then if that's even true. I never saw someone say the players that were chosen like MMR more than ELO.


Show me one proof. Where is it written that out of those people MMR was more liked? I showed you my proof.


And you're the one that's lacking brain cells. You keep repeating the same thing over and over thinking I didn't understand you.
1. You didn't show me the proof since the strawpool has been removed. 2. You still didn't beat my argument, you just keep trash talking.
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Radioactivebeans wrote

Season 12 elo means absolutely nothing, it is mostly used by players that have gotten worse compared to the rest of the community over time to prove they are not bad
First of all tag me next time.

It's the latest season that there was ELO in, MMR is new and people aren't used to it so people tell their ELO because people know which stats are good and which stats aren't when s15 is going to be the season12 basically. When seasons pass they'll tell their season 15 ELO which is perfectly normal in my opinion.
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DonaldTrumpBad wrote

You just keep trash talking


DonaldTrumpBad wrote

I'm not sure if It's because of your english knowledge or you're simply dumb


DonaldTrumpBad wrote

Are you missing a few brain cells?


You're the biggest hypocrite.

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SirDeadly wrote

DonaldTrumpBad wrote...



DonaldTrumpBad wrote...



DonaldTrumpBad wrote...



You're the biggest hypocrite.

You were ignoring all of my arguments and kept talking other shit. Trash talking was not the right phrase sorry.
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SirDeadly wrote

Radioactivebeans wrote...

First of all tag me next time.

It's the latest season that there was ELO in, MMR is new and people aren't used to it so people tell their ELO because people know which stats are good and which stats aren't when s15 is going to be the season12 basically. When seasons pass they'll tell their season 15 ELO which is perfectly normal in my opinion.


People will always use past seasons as some sort of proof. In season 12 a lot of people were saying how they are not bad cause they got 2.1k in season 9 for example. People also make excuses about the change to mmr as if that is what is affecting them. The new queuing system makes it so players can't insta q 1300s on eu4 or on eu1, it filters through ranks. You can't compare any season to another season. Getting 2.5k in s9 isn't the same as getting it in season 15. You evaluate yourself by comparing your own mmr or elo to the rest of the community in the same season. Mmr has been a thing over a year now if you can't get used to that idk what to say… Out of everything community could whine about they whined about this the most for no proper reason. Past stats never matter it is all about what you are now


Ps: The post wasn't directed towards you. I just threw it out there and if anybody wanted to comment on it they could that's why I didn't tag you
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Radioactivebeans wrote

Past stats never matter it is all about what you are now
My point.
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Archer: 1700 ELO
UHC: 1700 ELO
Diamond: 2000 ELO
Iron: 1700 ELO
SG: 1750 ELO
Debuff: 2400 ELO
Gapple: 2300 ELO
NoDebuff: 2600 ELO
Iron Soup: 2200 ELO
BuldUHC: 2000 ELO

I'm not the best at anything other than mainly melee based kits but I can always improve so we'll see how it goes
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