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s15 feedback w/ Jarecl

iblueapple300 wrote

Wish they could literally keep everything the same and just change kb and stuff And also use the same elo system as season 12 where you have +33 as the highest and +1 as the lowest
^^^^^^ and the highest you could gain was 31
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SoulzHD wrote

1) neutral , havent really played ranked much but i feel like the numbers are a bit too low

2)I like the new leaderboards a lot more and it does save up a lot of space

3)I rly like the new archer , its original and it makes it how its supposed to be played. I do think the gap should a bit smaller tho(except voidmeme map)

4) If you'd ask me I would lower it even more to 32 arrows lol

1) k
2) leaderboards are good, i agree

3) archer doesn't need speed II like people that are masters now can barely hit me if i try to strafe cause you move so fast, and the gap is dumb if arena is practice pvp when will you ever bow across a 25 block gap with speed II in a uhc?

4) 48 arrows is fine, but it should be like 36 or 40
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toblerone456 wrote

SirDeqdly:

1) Completely agree, if you're the top of the Build leaderboards and you die to someone much worse than you, you deserve to lost a lot of points. +1 +1

2) The signs were all in the same place and easy to read from spawn. +1 i disagree, the signs are good the way they are but they should be in front of spawn not behind it

3) Archer should be full leather, infinity bow without power nor speed. Also, no 'damage based on distance' shit. So I guess +1?idk

4) The great thing about the Build kit is that, to be good at it, you must be skilled in all areas of PvP. Taking away arrows would take away some of the bow skill. +1 -1 people are only good cause they use all 64 arrows

5) It's a bow kit. +1 +1

6) I like the knockback except for NoDebuff. +0 tbh nodebuff has bad kb rn but it's smoother in s15

Jarecl:

1) Said above what it should be. +0 you strafe way too fast in s15 and people that are top 10 archer now can barely hit me cause you strafe so fast, at least remove speed II

2) The server seems really boring and inactive without the chat. +1

3) I think grinding is good. -1 the only reason why i stuck with badlion in s11 and s12 was because of how fast you gain and lose elo, in 1.9 i got 1900 build and it felt so good, but in s15 as it is now it takes forever to gain elo and i'd get bored quickly (im #1 build so ik what it's like

4) I think insta-queuing will be used to make semi good players get insane ELO as they grind off bad players. +1 i think slow queueing should exist but it shouldn't expand infinitely, only to the max range as instant queueing is

5) Yes. +1 ajajja
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Legendcaleb wrote

1.) I like the archer kit, play iron if you prefer close fights you strafe too fast because of speed II at least remove the speed II

2.) I don't like the UHC kit because people could just bow from wherever, you still should be smart with arrows infinity arrows are better imo, but that's my opinion

3.) I don't like the ranked build KB, I voted for KB1 though which is ok ranked has rly good kb but i've only tried every test kit once and i think 2 is the best for each kit

4.) The soup kit NEEDS speed it's otherwise completely boring just trading hits for an entire inventory of soup +1, but soup is being changed cause german soup players play without speed so they're making it so germans wanna play badlion, not being changed

5.) New rating system is awesome, I don't know if you have ever had high elo but it's a pain in the ass to lose to smurfs or cheaters. I like the low risk low reward system i only stuck with badlion because i gained so much elo in 1.9 and it felt so addicting and rewarding to progress quickly (i got 1950 in 1.9)

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Msging wrote

SirDeqdly wrote...

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I much rather prefer low risk low reward to high risk high reward. Just my opinion.
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Tbh even though the Elo rate is halfed
Some fucker can still get 3.5k
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For high elos this system is better because you gain 1 point and has double the worth than it did in season 12
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1) normal ELO was better but this is still good

2) leaderboards do need to be signs brings back the nostalgia

3) archer kit gap just needs to be 10 blocks on every map

4) arrow change thank god it happened

5) uhc kit is great with infinity

6) knockback is good, especially the first test knockbacks for each kit

my opinion
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ravenatorman wrote

Something needs to be changed with the archer kit, it's possible to stand at the back of the map and dodge for 15 minutes if you're loosing. Needs to be speed 1 again, also something else needs to be changed so you can't tie the match by only dodging. Strafing is broken, idk how something gets messed up that badly.
Can you make a video explaining it to us and the devs?
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I don't really care if it's good or bad I just want it to release.
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I don't play archer but I agree with almost everything. I think they halved elo because they want people to grind to GrandMasters
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Awiiz wrote

KarliXon wrote...

^ only for uhc kit 64 arrow Should be enough no ?
It's really not enough, lol.
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ravenatorman wrote

Something needs to be changed with the archer kit, it's possible to stand at the back of the map and dodge for 15 minutes if you're loosing. Needs to be speed 1 again, also something else needs to be changed so you can't tie the match by only dodging. Strafing is broken, idk how something gets messed up that badly.

They need to literally keep the archer the SAME don’t change anything so simple
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Add a tier of strength every 5 minutes in archer or make it so the map degenerates pushing you closer to each other or something
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I really dislike the void gap in archer, as does everyone I've talked to. Distance-scaled damage and limited pearls solved all the issues with short range, so just leave that alone.

ELO should be on the same scale as in the past so we can compare across seasons. Even if getting 2.1k in S15 is the same as getting 2.8k in S12, it doesn't sound as good anymore.
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OUA wrote

I don't really care if it's good or bad I just want it to release.


so you want badlion to continue to die?
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I dont get why people dislike the halved elo system you don't need to compare your elo to the other seasons. In a community where everyone goes on alts and snipes eachother this is a very good system.
I dont know if the queuing scans people next to your elo right now but it should so people dont grind of new starters even more and sniping is harder.
48 is very good imo balanced not too much or little
Archer, not a fan of speed 2 doesnt feel natural. The void is a good idea but people might just try to tie the game or just make it last really long
Leaderboards with signs imo looked stupid and drew less attention than right now, Idk why we should change it.
Uhc with infinity is great.
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SporkHandles wrote

OUA wrote...



so you want badlion to continue to die?


if the community keeps asking for things to change badlion owners will get tired of us and simply leave us then badlion will really die. many owners did that before.
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