Last edited on 11 August 2017 - 07:35 PM by OUA
I saw couple posts about hcf in the suggestion in the last couple of days but most of them are just asking to bring hcf back without giving a good explanation then i saw Archybot stream about JD day and was asked about hcf if he wants to try making another one and he said he hates it since it won't get enough players and also that if he bans players from any big faction they will quit which will result in the map dying.Things to note.
- HCF community hates badlion for "killing kohi" or getting banned "wrongfully".
- HCF maps now days die really fast so you need to find something to attract players.
- Right now there's not much competition in hardcore faction, most servers are pay to win so a true hardcore server would be a success.
Here's my suggestion don't make a server on badlion instead host Hcf on another server. I'm not saying buy a server or merge with it badlion, I'm saying invest in hcf server, for example shotbow hcf (first ever hcf server) is trying to make a comeback but to my knowledge shotbow is not willing to fund it since they are 1.9 server and pvp community is 1.7.
Also having separate ban list helps to get more players.
How to make players attracted to badlion or hcf server, it's simple pay some youtubers some money, most hcf youtubers upload trailers 24/7 so giving them 50$ (4 episode) for the map is more than enough to convince them.
Posted on 11 August 2017 - 07:48 PM
+1Posted on 11 August 2017 - 11:04 PM
Fat +1 from me. Mini games on badlion and hcf motivate me to play minecraft since everything else gets boring really quicklyPosted on 12 August 2017 - 12:32 AM
+1Posted on 12 August 2017 - 08:06 AM
+1 I love HCF but all the servers that currently run HCF are pay to win.Posted on 12 August 2017 - 11:09 AM
The problems with UHCF were never addressed. The Badlion staff team are not equipped to run a HCF server.HCF maps have tons of problems 24/7 and you need a teamspeak or discord with admins/mods capable of fixing them all the time.
Simple things like "theres a guy BHOPPING and phasing into bases" and a staff can ban them.
I got portal trapped, and staff can save you. Etc, Badlion can't do this because the staff team is not setup that way, the mods don't have rights to question players, SS, live ban, TP and others.
HCF needs to be run like a UHC, with hosts available, but instead they relied on GCheat so the map failed. It took days to get simple things fixed that would take minutes on dedicated HCF. It didn't work because there was not hosts/admins.
Posted on 12 August 2017 - 11:35 AM
Duvvvy wrote
HCF maps have tons of problems 24/7 and you need a teamspeak or discord with admins/mods capable of fixing them all the time.
Simple things like "theres a guy BHOPPING and phasing into bases" and a staff can ban them.
I got portal trapped, and staff can save you. Etc, Badlion can't do this because the staff team is not setup that way, the mods don't have rights to question players, SS, live ban, TP and others.
HCF needs to be run like a UHC, with hosts available, but instead they relied on GCheat so the map failed. It took days to get simple things fixed that would take minutes on dedicated HCF. It didn't work because there was not hosts/admins.
UHCF was a disaster. Your entire argument that it needs experience staff right, I didn't say anything about badlion staff or badlion will have hcf, it will work as an independent server with different staff, different kb etc.
And the reason I brought HCFaction into this because they had staff not from shotbow but from the community experienced players that know what the community wants. when they were making their comeback they had at least 3 admins for each region.
Badlion emerged with kohi but most kohi game mods are dead since most their players are banned, having another name with different ban list will encourage players to join, Not to mention with decent advertising they will get 300 players. even shitty servers with 0 knowledge of hcf will be a success with proper management and advert(youtubers)
Posted on 12 August 2017 - 01:00 PM
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OUA wrote
UHCF was a disaster. Your entire argument that it needs experience staff right, I didn't say anything about badlion staff or badlion will have hcf, it will work as an independent server with different staff, different kb etc.
When Kohi and Badlion "merged", 95% of the staff resigned because they didn't agree with how Badlion was managed. The Kohi gamemodes didn't die because "most their players are banned", they died as on Badlion they were run differently. Kohi had a system very similar to what we just recently got on Badlion, where minigames were broadcast in chat, and donators/famous could do a broadcast for a game to fill. Those gamemodes didn't work on Kohi either, they needed the broadcast system which Badlion removed.
Badlion is not capable of running a good HCF as it does not have a support team. I didn't say the staff team need experience, much of the staff team would be able to transfer their skills from hosting UHC directly onto HCF, its quite similar, many of the staff have been/are staff on HCF servers too.
The point being, the way Badlion is right now, doesn't work for factions, because the staff need more power over the gamemode. Your idea of bringing staff from a server during a buyout/merge would never work as the staff wouldn't come.
Posted on 12 August 2017 - 07:33 PM
@RyanOyster Did you read the entire thread? I'm not saying buy a server instead invest some money, server that run on its self with its own staff, Hcfaction does not have the funds but have the support to start a server and badlion have resources to support that, Badlion won't run the server more like sister network that's hardcore base.Do you honestly think that kohi gamemodes dead because of a couple of gamemodes? No, after JD7 and badlion banning 2 players that happen to be in big faction player count went from 300 to 100, not to mention there were 0 youtubers that were advertising badlion hcf so ofc it will die, even bad server succeed with the proper advert.
you said Badlion is not capable of running an hcf server which is true but that's why bring people that have experience with hcf.
Posted on 12 August 2017 - 09:00 PM
OUA wrote
Do you honestly think that kohi gamemodes dead because of a couple of gamemodes? No, after JD7 and badlion banning 2 players that happen to be in big faction player count went from 300 to 100, not to mention there were 0 youtubers that were advertising badlion hcf so ofc it will die, even bad server succeed with the proper advert.
you said Badlion is not capable of running an hcf server which is true but that's why bring people that have experience with hcf.
If Badlion was just investing in a sister network, how would they benefit? It's just giving away money and potentially ruining their reputation by having an outside staff team and outside plugins take on their branding.
The Kohi gamemodes did die due to the broadcast system, prac 2 was still getting around 1000 players a day until it was deleted. Not as high as when it was on Kohi, but it was still enough to get 12 players into an SG.
Badlion is technically capable of running good HCF, they used to do it. They own the Kohi Factions source code, and have the playerbase to support it. It's just how the entire staff-player dynamic that won't allow it to work.
What I'm trying to get at is the Kohi gamemodes were killed because Badlion didn't wanna change to their system, which is fair enough but that's the reason, then UHCF died as they didn't wanna run it like Kohi ran HCF, when that's what players expected. Badlions attitude towards those gamemodes needs to change, that's it.
Posted on 13 August 2017 - 05:37 PM
Fat +1but
all servers are p2w so idk, and the community is toxic as fuck so rip rip
Posted on 13 August 2017 - 06:28 PM
FlameShotPvP wrote
but
all servers are p2w so idk, and the community is toxic as fuck so rip rip
just have hope maybe we get a better community.
Posted on 13 August 2017 - 07:13 PM
+1Posted on 13 August 2017 - 08:03 PM
+1Posted on 13 August 2017 - 08:26 PM
low chances ma broPosted on 14 August 2017 - 08:42 AM
Awiiz wrote
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-1Posted on 14 August 2017 - 08:54 AM
SirDeqdly wrote
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