Posted on 17 August 2017 - 10:45 PM
ItzTomz wrote
ps I don't like Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump I just think that the electoral college is a stupid system.
It's tradition it's been like this since George Washington
Last edited on 17 August 2017 - 10:50 PM by ItzTomz
Emendings wrote
ItzTomz wrote...
It's tradition it's been like this since George Washington
Posted on 17 August 2017 - 11:29 PM
ItzTomz wrote
Emendings wrote...
Yes it is dude it's how it works and even if they wanted to they can't it's in some huge paper I can't think of the name ATM
Posted on 17 August 2017 - 11:53 PM
As arab i like trump and think he's better for the USLast edited on 17 August 2017 - 11:56 PM by PoisonShadows
Bladian wrote
I'm going to quickly state that I'm not pro-trump, but I'm anti-hillary.
Let's start with your first point.
He is a man who is supported by the KKK, someone who believes in white supremacy rather than loving all people as equals.
So because someone follows him, that means it's bad?
Okay then, I'm a Nazi and I support you, so now you're a Nazi too. Can we get you demoted since I'm a Nazi and I follow you?
What fucking argument is that, he can't control who follows them.
And since you're obviously too lazy to even look into this shit, here's a video that shows he's against them.
https://youtu.be/hoXThCb8EZA
Time and time again he has talked down upon the minorities and attempted to get people to hate them. He has gone as far as to call transgender people "burdens" and restrict their access to serve our country.
That's because it costs more to maintain these sort of things, I'd rather spend more on other shit rather than on medical treatment which isn't required for troops. If the transgender troops are willing to pay their own money, for their sex change medication… fine, but otherwise they should receive the same amount of money as everyone else in the military.
He has ignored the LGBQT and he wants it to be gone completely because he does not believe in them.
Source?
He wants to build a wall to keep Latinos out and keep the whites in.
Keep out latinos? What the fuck are you 12?
He wants to keep out illegal immigrants, and since I don't think you know anything about economics here's some basic shit.
More illegal immigrants = less jobs for Americans = more unemployment = more trouble.
He doesn't give a fuck about where people are from, but you either come in legally or you stay out.
He practically tells people to go try sexual assault and has been accused of it many times in the past.
Source? All the sexual assaults charges against him have been dropped for lack of evidence.
If you're talking about "grab her by the pussy," if you listened to the whole conversation he says "they let him", meaning he has their consent.
Either way I'm not a fan of this conversation, but still get your facts right.
He is trying to ban Muslims from the country.
Oh dear god, the so called Muslim ban.
1) It was a ban from countries which had the highest amount of terrorist attacks
2) It so happened that the religion was Islam
3) It wasn't a Muslim ban, it was a terrorist ban if anything
I am Scared and worried for my friends who are in the minorities, the ones who would be targets of Trump's beliefs.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Honestly please read a book or something.
America has always been known as the country of the free and a place for people to find better lives, now that truth may be changed. We elected a man who is oppressing those who he dislikes, someone who is using fear and bias to run a country WHEN HE HAS NO POLITICAL EXPERIENCE.
Oppressing is a big word their kiddo, where has he oppressed people? You're saying stuff without any proof.
Political Experience fair enough, I'll agree on that one.
We had such a better choice for a candidate but yet we chose him, why? Hillary had the tools and the knowledge to lead this country to great places yet people ignored all that and went for a business man.
1) Hillary was an utterly shit politican (Benghazi)
2) Hillary had ties with Saudi Arabia
3) Hillary helped a child molester win a case
4) Hillary was not a woman supporter, their was a tape of her laughing about the man she had helped escape the accusation
5) 30,000 deleted emails
Honestly list goes on, why don't you inform yourself a bit more
I was speechless when I saw the results of the election because America made a disgusting choice that gave them more money.
I feel sorry for you.
I will always send my love to the people who need it since Trump is trying so heard to break us apart. I hope America can get past this and go back to the great nation it was before we put this sad excuse of a president in office.
How has he tried to tear you apart, what has he done?
All I hear is you pointing at shit he hasn't done, give me solid evidence he's trying to divide the country.
You're one of the reasons he won, because you're uninformed over such things, and the constant hate that people keep spewing allowed him to win the election.
I'm pro-Trump but I completely agree with you here. He's on of the best presidents the U.S. has had in a long while.
Posted on 18 August 2017 - 12:07 AM
I think it's funny how every little kid or middle schooler hates trump because they believe whatever they see on twitter on Instagram and you ask them why and they always say "he's racist"Last edited on 18 August 2017 - 12:49 AM by 7MINUTEDRILL
This is why I hate the country I live in. America is one of the most conservative, bigoted and unintelligent countries. END OF STORYLast edited on 18 August 2017 - 01:11 AM by iSluff
Bladian wrote
But he's fine with allowing people in as long as they come in legally? Where has he banned complete immigration, again just a moron brainwashed by the media.
I'm not sure how you can't understand this simple point.
He hasn't banned complete immigration. It was a hypothetical to attempt to prove a point, which went right over your head because you aren't even attempting to understand what I'm saying.
I don't agree with the vast majority of anti-immigration laws, outside of screening people to see if they're dangerous. It's not based on evidence and there's a professional economist consensus that large amounts of immigration is good for the economy. When you argue that you are trying to stop illegal immigration, you are arguing that you want to keep the current anti-immigration laws in place and you support those laws. Donald Trump supports such laws and even wants to expand them, which is totally nonsense. Making something illegal nonsensically, and then whenever someone argues with you saying "I just want to prevent people from doing *thing I nonsensically made illegal* illegally!" is absolute nonsense. Imagine I made it so you have to do 72 pages of paperwork to eat pears. And then when people object I go "I am just against ILLEGAL pear eating, it's fine if you do it legally!" Ok, sure but what I'm saying is I disagree with the laws in place in the first place and think they're idiotic.
Yes, I understand that there are other effects of immigration outside of economics. But you specifically were talking about economics and invoked the lump of labor fallacy which I was arguing against.
The reason I am replying to less and less of your points is not because I'm an idiot or anything of the like, it's just because I slowly stop wasting my time in conversations where the other person does not demonstrate any willingness to understand the points I am making and make an actual counter argument. The difference between you and me is I understand the points you're making and the rationale behind them, while you have not made any effort at all to understand the points I am making.
Bladian wrote
You have no evidence to back this. Just because you think shit like this, doesn't mean it's true.
Can't believe I'm having to say this but Facts>Feelings. All cases dropped. All have had approval so far, nothing to prove he's overpowered woman.
I am using simple deductive logic. If trump is pussy grabbin', he's either pussy grabbin`
1. Random women
2. Women he knows
I find it HIGHLY unlikely he walks on the street grabbin' pussies. So it's probably women he knows. Now, what is the nature of his relationship with most women he knows? Seeming as he's the boss in almost all situations, he has a position of power over them. Rarely there might be another CEO he's working with, but that's not common. By and large the women trump knows are people he has power over. And if you have power over someone and touch them sexually, they might not object, even if they don't consent.
Do I believe that he has sexually assaulted women? Maybe, I'm not sure. There's been some accusations and he's talked up a lot, but also not lots of solid proof. It's not my main reason for disliking him. But the point is that your idea of consent is totally backwards if you think simply "letting someone do something" is consent. There's plenty of reasons you will let someone do something when you don't actually consent to it. That's why I made the gun analogy.
Bladian wrote
Maybe because almost every terrorist attack is committed by a Muslim. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And if this is true, why didn't he ban countries like Indonesia, India, Turkey, which have one of the largest amount of Islamic citizens?
Whether or not Eastern Islam is compatible with Western culture (it's not) is a debate for another time.
You're backtracking, and I also already answered that question. Because a full muslim ban was unconstitutional so he had to rebrand it. If you were following him trying to get his executive orders through courts you would've seen that they were objecting to it because of its clear intent to blanket ban a religion based on his campaign statements. Based on his statements that he wants a muslim ban during the campaign, it's obvious his intent with the ban was to ban muslims. He just had to rebrand it for it to be legal. And you were straight up wrong about him never claiming a muslim ban, but I guess you'll backtrack it. Seems like you're putting facts under your feelings, eh?
Ugh you're totally missing my point. I specifically said not to google it, and asked you those questions, not because I don't know anything about benghazi and want you to tell me, rather I am very informed on it, but because benghazi is just a buzzword at this point for republicans, and I guarantee you couldn't give a general description of what you think clinton did wrong without googling it. Because in truth you don't really know, and you just read another conservative say it's her fault people died and you believed it. But who's really brainwashed by the media?
Last edited on 18 August 2017 - 02:15 AM by CRINKLE
iblueapple300 wrote
The sky is green, whether you like it or not.
Posted on 18 August 2017 - 07:03 AM
If it's not Trump it's Hillary so choose your poisonPosted on 18 August 2017 - 07:26 AM
Crinkle wrote
iblueapple300 wrote...
The sky is green, whether you like it or not.
nice meme kid
Posted on 18 August 2017 - 08:44 AM
I'm going to be locking this thread to avoid any further argument and or flame. I made a mistake posting this and I should not have put it here, I am sorry for any negative opinions. The thread went better in my head originally, however it was ignorant of me to put it here.