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A new feature in Arena PvP makes it so Lion+'s can do something call "Set maximum opponent ping" which I think is slightly unfair. Even though it doesn't give them an unfair advantage it still allows them to not fight opponents that can beat them.

Tell me if you agree or don't

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Last edited on 26 September 2017 - 07:12 PM by Vaxd

Being able to limit the ping of the opponent you fight doesn't make it pay to win.

Also, "Even though it doesn't give them an unfair advantage it still allows them to not fight opponents that can beat them." lol.

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Posted on 26 September 2017 - 07:22 PM

More than before but not like some faction servers… meaning that every good feature will only be for Lion+ now, not even Lion/D+/D

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Last edited on 27 September 2017 - 08:11 AM by Suitability

IMO, not literally. I mean setting a max opponent ping isn't really that helpful unless someone really abuses it (Sets it to very high ping). So, in a way, yes it's PTHAHCOW (Pay to have a higher chance of winning). However, it's not like other servers where it's a confirmed win.

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Last edited on 26 September 2017 - 07:31 PM by Wensdey

Vaxd wrote

Being able to limit the ping of the opponent you fight doesn't make it pay to win.

Also, "Even though it doesn't give them an unfair advantage it still allows them to not fight opponents that can beat them." lol.

Technically it is because by paying you are given a chance to win more matches.

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Posted on 26 September 2017 - 07:34 PM

Suitability wrote

IMO, not literally. I mean setting a max opponent ping isn't really that helpful unless someone really abuses it (Sets it to very high ping). So, in a way, yes it's PTHAHCOW (Pay to have a higher chance of winning). However, it's not like other servers where it's a confirmed win.

You're right it's not as bad as other servers, but Badlion wants to be taken seriously in competitive terms. They we're supposed to be better and it kinda makes me sad.

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Last edited on 26 September 2017 - 07:38 PM by Suitability

Tincode wrote

Suitability wrote...

You're right it's not as bad as other servers, but Badlion wants to be taken seriously in competitive terms. They we're supposed to be better and it kinda makes me sad.

I agree. I don't have a problem with the other add-ons and features, but this one seems a bit unfair.

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Posted on 26 September 2017 - 07:39 PM

Suitability wrote

Tincode wrote...

I agree. I don't have a problem with the other add-ons and features, but this one seems a bit unfair.

I agree with you 100%

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Posted on 26 September 2017 - 07:43 PM

Tincode wrote

Vaxd wrote...

Technically it is because by paying you are given a chance to win more matches.

Even matches are not equal to winning more matches.

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Last edited on 26 September 2017 - 07:50 PM by Wensdey

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Posted on 26 September 2017 - 07:50 PM

Vaxd wrote

Tincode wrote...

Even matches are not equal to winning more matches.

You didn't read my post correctly.

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Posted on 26 September 2017 - 08:01 PM

Tincode wrote

Vaxd wrote...

You didn't read my post correctly.

No, I read it correctly I just hadn't fully thought everything out in my head. You do have a solid point about it being a bit pay to win.

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Posted on 26 September 2017 - 08:39 PM

I wouldn't say at this point, but If they continue to give ranked players benefits then yes, the server would eventually become pay to win.

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Posted on 27 September 2017 - 01:07 AM

"The Commercial usage guidelines state that you may sell cosmetic items, except for “capes”, if the item sold does not give a user an unfair gameplay advantage over anyone else on the server." ~ Mojang, Minecraft Commercial Use EULA (https://help.mojang.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1590522-minecraft-commercial-use)

The addition of a payed way to set the range of ping of an opponent does not give an unfair advantage to either player, in fact, it makes the fight more fair. Therefore this is not pay-to-win.

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Posted on 27 September 2017 - 04:13 AM

There is not a single feature on Badlion that is pay to win.

There are pay to play features and lots of more control features for paying users, but there is absolutely nothing on Badlion that gives you an advantage that makes it unfair for free users to play against a paid user.

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Last edited on 27 September 2017 - 06:07 AM by Ryankoo1

Badlion is the last server the community should be complaining about being p2w, there are servers out there that literally sell unmutes

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Posted on 27 September 2017 - 06:27 AM

Rlly bro.

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Last edited on 27 September 2017 - 07:06 AM by Suitability

Ignore my earlier posts. I just realized it's not like you can just set it to a precise range, but rather it's a limit. So, as of right now, Badlion isn't at all pay to win.

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