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Is Badlion becoming pay 2 win?
Badlion is a Freemium network, also known as Pay2Play
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There's nothing you can buy that 1) gives anyone any unfair advantage, 2) is against the EULA, and 3) makes the game very dificult to play as a non-donor. I think it's fine. All of the purchasable features have no effect on actual gameplay and balancing. All of this, along with the fact that the integrity of the server and its pubishment system is still vety intact makes mr strongly against the idea the server is P2W.
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MasterGberry wrote

There is not a single feature on Badlion that is pay to win.

There are pay to play features and lots of more control features for paying users, but there is absolutely nothing on Badlion that gives you an advantage that makes it unfair for free users to play against a paid user.

If I was getting fucked by someone with 90+ ping and had Lion+ and chose to cap it at 50 or 75 then I'm basically buying my way out of queueing that person, no? Maybe I'll get higher rating because I don't queue that person and have a lower chance at being drained. Opinions?
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nvm similar idea not same
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Verillium wrote

MasterGberry wrote...


If I was getting fucked by someone with 90+ ping and had Lion+ and chose to cap it at 50 or 75 then I'm basically buying my way out of queueing that person, no? Maybe I'll get higher rating because I don't queue that person and have a lower chance at being drained. Opinions?


Or you could just play later when that player isn't playing?
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MasterGberry wrote

Verillium wrote...



Or you could just play later when that player isn't playing?

So just block out half the community (whatever the actual number is) so you can grind higher instead of fighting potentially skilled players with higher ping? Might as well let me choose who I wanna fight
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MasterGberry wrote

There is not a single feature on Badlion that is pay to win.

There are pay to play features and lots of more control features for paying users, but there is absolutely nothing on Badlion that gives you an advantage that makes it unfair for free users to play against a paid user.


Not when playing against a paid user but if you think about being able to choose you only want to play people with 50 ping people is an advantage
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Tincode wrote

Suitability wrote...

You're right it's not as bad as other servers, but Badlion wants to be taken seriously in competitive terms. They we're supposed to be better and it kinda makes me sad.


Exactly. Badlion wants to be competitive but it gives donators (especially Lion+) advantages which really takes away from the competitiveness. The whole donators getting unlimited matches while regular member's get only 20 a day is such a huge advantage for donors, and adding a set ping feature for Lion+ is just crossing the line imo.
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Verillium wrote

MasterGberry wrote...


If I was getting fucked by someone with 90+ ping and had Lion+ and chose to cap it at 50 or 75 then I'm basically buying my way out of queueing that person, no? Maybe I'll get higher rating because I don't queue that person and have a lower chance at being drained. Opinions?


It's very unfair saying that like half of my losses are to beaners.
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Twisz wrote

Ryankoo1 wrote...



Well it's not like unmutes are an advantage in PvP :P

Your right, the reason why I specifically mentioned unmutes is to show the extent some servers go to to make money. Such servers most likely also sell p2w stuff such as kits, lives etc
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Twisz wrote

Ryankoo1 wrote...



Well it's not like unmutes are an advantage in PvP :P

Servers that sell unmutes are still pretty sad :P
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this is just pay for better experience on arena, it doesn't guarantee wins
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DiamandDiner wrote

this is just pay for better experience on arena, it doesn't guarantee wins
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pay2queue*
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Stilł as bad as FrozenOrb
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SporkHandles wrote

Stilł as bad as FrozenOrb
Then why are you here? I swear when I find some rope I'm killing myself
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Ryankoo1 wrote

Badlion is the last server the community should be complaining about being p2w, there are servers out there that literally sell unmutes

Irrelevant point, what other servers are doing or selling has no relation to Badlion or this thread.
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UVpickles wrote

There's nothing you can buy that 1) gives anyone any unfair advantage, 2) is against the EULA, and 3) makes the game very dificult to play as a non-donor. I think it's fine. All of the purchasable features have no effect on actual gameplay and balancing. All of this, along with the fact that the integrity of the server and its pubishment system is still vety intact makes mr strongly against the idea the server is P2W.

Have you not heard the new ping feature for lion+? If anything is affecting balancing its that
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PoisonShadows wrote

The addition of a payed way to set the range of ping of an opponent does not give an unfair advantage to either player, in fact, it makes the fight more fair. Therefore this is not pay-to-win.

You seem to be missing the point. The reason OP was claiming this feature could be P2W is because a Lion+ player could only play in 50 ping "fair" matches, whereas a non-donor player would still be forced to play against laggers who make the fight "unfair". Sure it is fair for the two Lion+ players who are going against each other, but that is besides the point entirely.
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