Posted on 31 December 2014 - 10:41 PM
The entire point of the archer ladder is long/ medium range. Am i wrong? It's not pearling at your opponent and jitter clicking your mouse. I know countless others who hate 1200 elo kids pearling and spamming them with arrows… Worst of all, when you pearl away from them and they pearl at you. You just can't escape them. I honestly do not see a reason to have pearls in the archer ladder. I feel like they promote bow spamming and i think they are pointless. Or if this is too much to ask, maybe just make the pearl timer longer, I would prefer option one but i just want it gone. I've been drained by some good archers i respect, a noob with no slowdown, and some bow spammers. I'm fine with loosing an archer match but i'd prefer to play the archer ladder at long range and loose. Not die to bow spammers and loose 31 elo constantly.-djcdylan1
Posted on 31 December 2014 - 10:51 PM
djcdylan1 wrote
-djcdylan1
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But 1 thing, Bow spamming is good for certain aspects of Archer but in this case 1/2 the Archer community just spams and just try to drain people. They don't like long range or medium they just wait till you pearl and chase you. I would like the e-pearl timer more as e-pearling is still a good aspect of the Archer ladder itself, but getting spammed all the time and the campers makes me cringe. But yeah lets see about a few others
@Ny_
@Hivlik
@christhenoob
@Ukase
@dragonpasa
Posted on 31 December 2014 - 11:28 PM
@Morsinius@DoctaShock
@samthecat43
I personally support this for the reason listed in the OP.
Posted on 31 December 2014 - 11:29 PM
Oh, and @Hydro_SeedsPosted on 31 December 2014 - 11:38 PM
Some maps are harder to traverse then others. That is all.(what? me? a bowspammer? what?)
Posted on 01 January 2015 - 12:10 AM
I disagree that pearls should be removed from archer ladder. I think that ender pearls, as well as speed 2, are a unique aspect of the ladder that make it more than just the regular bow fights you see in other ladders or on other servers. Archer ladder is not only for long range and medium range bow, it for bow at any range, and the best players should be able to bow well and consistently win at any range. There are also a ton of strategies that are in the ladder because of pearls, one of the more popular ones being the wall-pearl where you shoot your opponent while falling.Archer ladder is not and should not become a ladder based entirely on bow accuracy, it should be how well you can use your terrain, your pearls, and your speed 2 to help you in your bow fight. I would not be against a second, more "vanilla" archer ladder, similar to KOHI's being released.
Posted on 01 January 2015 - 12:21 AM
nygiants_10 wrote
Archer ladder is not and should not become a ladder based entirely on bow accuracy, it should be how well you can use your terrain, your pearls, and your speed 2 to help you in your bow fight. I would not be against a second, more "vanilla" archer ladder, similar to KOHI's being released.
I see what your saying, But also think of all the hard work you can put in being a 2k or 2.1k and get drained by a e-pearl spammer.
I mean I do agree with your thought on this, I tbh don't either want them removed, but maybe just and extended timer for the pearls for more long range shots?
Posted on 01 January 2015 - 04:41 AM
Nah. Otherwise it's hard to beat people who camp behind buildings. Just make it the distance damage multiplier. The new archer ladder sucks imhoPosted on 01 January 2015 - 06:42 AM
The Archer now is better then the last recent Archer ladder. But I thought we where going to add the more distance the shot was, the more damage taken. I don't think the ladder entirely sucks but it could be edited or changed with the damage multiplier or e-pearl timer.Posted on 01 January 2015 - 07:01 AM
No.Posted on 01 January 2015 - 07:21 AM
Honestly I hate to say it, but I usually ender pearl to make close up shots. I take some bow spam shots to load my bow back all the way and release a full charged doing twice the damage I received from the bow spam. It's not bow spamming, I can handle long range fine, but if you were to edit the damage based off distance, it would ruin archer, why? Because a full charged shot would do the same as a barely charged shot in close range, and my elo would plummet because my strategy wouldn't workPosted on 01 January 2015 - 09:48 AM
Hivlik wrote
Yea, whatever happened to the modified damage idea?
Posted on 01 January 2015 - 10:40 AM
Ok, I don't like the idea of pearl bow spammers either but I don't think they should remove pearls because of 2 reasons : the first @Hivlik pointed out and the second is now that we have all these stupid maps with holes in them we need pearls to get out -_- I think we should simply reduce the amount of pearls or make the timer longer as ssaid previously.Posted on 01 January 2015 - 12:36 PM
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I won't take you as a noob for "Bow spamming", but it will get on people's nerves if there a 2k in something and a 1400 e-pearl spammer kills them. But also I do want pearls in the kit for getting out of holes, escaping the enemy from getting to close and the campers that go near cornor's and shoot. pearls are a great addition but maybe just and extended timer or the damage modification.
Posted on 02 January 2015 - 04:07 AM
The point is not to make it less annoying for high elo players; if a player has a lot of elo, it supposedly means they should be able to consistently perform well under a wide range of circumstances. If they can't, then yes, they should get drained. Also, @Legendcaleb , your "strategy" is what makes the new ladder bad. That's the exact thing we're trying to avoid with a damage multiplier.Posted on 02 January 2015 - 04:51 AM
You want a full charged shot to do the same as a no charged shot just based off distance? @Hivlik, that makes it so machine gun bows (not hacks, just people who try to shoot as fast as possible) will do the same as a full charged shot at the same range? This is illogicalPosted on 02 January 2015 - 04:56 AM
legendcaleb wrote
No, it's not. I've played the ladder for a long time, and one thing I can tell you for sure is that it's much easier to finish up a bow spammer than somebody who stops and pulls his bow back all the way. For quite a lot of reasons, actually.
Posted on 02 January 2015 - 05:10 AM
@Hivliki can 11 heart you in archer ladder m9r
if i had 40 hearts :^)
Posted on 02 January 2015 - 06:08 AM
What you're not understanding @Hivlik is that long range, medium range and close range are all aspects of archery. Just because you're good at long range doesn't make you better than someone phenomenal at short range. To be good at archery you need to be good at all aspects of the playing field. Taking away something to elliminate something that you don't like to do, taking out an entirety of an aspect of archery, is pointless. The reason it's there is to improve on all different aspects of archery, short long and mid, and to be good at all, not just one specific .PS: why not just enderpearl away