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NoDebuff and some other issues.
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Why in the world was NoDebuff made as one of the Global kits in season 16? There has clearly been no effort put into improving the knockback for the kit at all. I understand, "we can't perfect the knockback for all kits" well if that's the case then have separate duel servers for different game types, or just put the time into it like other servers. Another issue with the potion kits is that the fights genuinely feel sped up, I'm not sure if this is due to the "higher tick rate", but it makes the kit even less enjoyable than it already is. Now, this goes for all of the potion kits on the server.

EDIT: Incase some of you don't know, Badlion runs a mutli-server system, where there is the core server and multiple other duel servers. This was introduced after season13 to improve performance and for load balancing. This is different to what it used to be like, before season13 basically badlion ran the duels and the core on the same servers, meaning there was up to 500 players on a single server at a time. So when I refer to duel servers, I mean the separate servers you get sent to when you go into a duel. So to expand on what said above, I mean have duel servers that have specific knockback for specific kits.

Player base:
There is a serious problem with people from other regions playing on ones they are not supposed to. The SA region has to be publicized more because it is not fair on US/EU players who have to put up with the SA players with well over 300ms, this has been an issue for such a long time now and I genuinely think something must happen. Now if this means cutting off connections if a player is connecting from a country that they shouldn't be, it will just have to happen. It's one of the bigger problems that has been around for so long and nothing has happened to fix it. Another solution would just be to check the players' jitter and if it's over a threshold? don't allow them to play.
If nothing above is suitable, simply allow players to chose ping ranges.

I've not played Badlion seriously since season 11ish? I'm sorry if these suggestions have already been brought up, but I saw season 16 had started and I thought things would've been improved.
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Cupo wrote

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Why in the world was NoDebuff made as one of the Global kits in season 16? Not only is the pot community currently larger than the UHC community in minecraft at the minute, but it's important Badlion maintains its roots with pot ladders. Plus the idea of global is so that one can see someone's skill across all ladders and pvp types There has clearly been no effort put into improving the knockback for the kit at allFour years later and people are still complaining about the knockback. If it's not entirely terrible, don't complain.. I understand, "we can't perfect the knockback for all kits" well if that's the case then have separate duel servers for different game types, or just put the time into it like other serversWaste of time and resources and will split the [badlion] community. Another issue with the potion kits is that the fights genuinely feel sped up I havn't had a 'slow' pot pvp match since map19/20 hcf, I'm not sure if this is due to the "higher tick rate", but it makes the kit even less enjoyable than it already is Don't play it then. Now, this goes for all of the potion kits on the server.

Don't get me wrong 3 years ago a NoDebuff ladder was a blessing and a breath of fresh air compared to the other ladders. Now it's just ruined potion pvp in my opinion; it's popularity has saturated pot pvp down to who can click the fastest and play 'chicken' the longest and taken away what used to be a major skill - debuffing.
It's better than nothing though, shame people don't play Vanilla or Debuff enough.
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Potion on badlion was never good.
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DaddyKeerqq wrote

Potion on badlion was never good.

You're new here.
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cringiecake wrote

DaddyKeerqq wrote...


You're new here.


No I'm not, and yes potion was never good, oh yeah it's good for peoples like you who don't know to play it, and telling others it's good. It's literally no kb so you can even crit LUL. Stop typing dumb things…
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DaddyKeerqq wrote

cringiecake wrote...



No I'm not, and yes potion was never good, oh yeah it's good for peoples like you who don't know to play it, and telling others it's good. It's literally no kb so you can even crit LUL. Stop typing dumb things…
he's not wrong, you're definitely new here. (You didn't even have a single match played in s12 which is already considered being very new)
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DaddyKeerqq wrote

cringiecake wrote...



No I'm not, and yes potion was never good, oh yeah it's good for peoples like you who don't know to play it, and telling others it's good. It's literally no kb so you can even crit LUL. Stop typing dumb things…

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and yes potion was never good

Which is why Badlion was started as a potion pvp server aight lad

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oh yeah it's good for peoples like you who don't know to play it

Please educate this sweaty minecwafter whose been playing Pot PvP for four years on how to play.

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so you can even crit LUL

That's due to there not being Strength Potions in the kits/ladders, so as you would say:

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Stop typing dumb things


Also you joined the forums in 2016, so you're new and most likely havn't experienced Pot PvP back when there wasn't the generic and boring NoDebuff kits everyone plays now.
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Asorn wrote

DaddyKeerqq wrote...

he's not wrong, you're definitely new here. (You didn't even have a single match played in s12 which is already considered being very new)


Because I didn't played season 12 on this account, and why tf everyone is acting like everything was great and perfect in that season lol.
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cringiecake wrote

DaddyKeerqq wrote...


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Which is why Badlion was started as a potion pvp server aight lad

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Please educate this sweaty minecwafter whose been playing Pot PvP for four years on how to play.

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That's due to there not being Strength Potions in the kits/ladders, so as you would say:

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Also you joined the forums in 2016, so you're new and most likely havn't experienced Pot PvP back when there wasn't the generic and boring NoDebuff kits everyone plays now.



I'm going to correct you, I was playing from season 11 on my friends account because I didn't had my own premium. Season 12 was not perfect, It was good because good community. Just nostlagia lol…
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lol cupo is that you
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DaddyKeerqq wrote

Asorn wrote...



Because I didn't played season 12 on this account, and why tf everyone is acting like everything was great and perfect in that season lol.
When did I once say season 12 was a good season? I was using it to show how old you are and even coming in season 11 still makes you extremely new (Not saying I'm not new). Not sure if you know this but Badlion started out as a pot server, sorry to break it to you but you statement saying "pot on Badlion was never good" is just straight up incorrect. Next time do you research before you say something, especially if it's something negative.
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DaddyKeerqq wrote

cringiecake wrote...




I'm going to correct you, I was playing from season 11 on my friends account because I didn't had my own premium. Season 12 was not perfect, It was good because good community. Just nostlagia lol…

You're the only one talking about season 12, I'm talking about Potion PvP for as long as it's been around and as long as I've played it.
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Asorn wrote

DaddyKeerqq wrote...

When did I once say season 12 was a good season? I was using it to show how old you are and even coming in season 11 still makes you extremely new (Not saying I'm not new). Not sure if you know this but Badlion started out as a pot server, sorry to break it to you but you statement saying "pot on Badlion was never good" is just straight up incorrect. Next time do you research before you say something, especially if it's something negative.



You can fucking ask every badlion player who knows something about potpvp and it`s good in it, and he will say the same. So YES pot was never good on BADLION!
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DaddyKeerqq wrote

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You can fucking ask every badlion player who knows something about potpvp and it`s good in it, and he will say the same. So YES pot was never good on BADLION!
Okay, I'll be asking @cringiecake :)

Or I could just ask myself
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Asorn wrote

DaddyKeerqq wrote...

Okay, I'll be asking @cringiecake :)

Or I could just ask myself


You have your opinion, I have mine, I respect your opinion.
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DaddyKeerqq wrote

Asorn wrote...




You can fucking ask every badlion player who knows something about potpvp and it`s good in it, and he will say the same. So YES pot was never good on BADLION!

So you're saying you are bad at Pot and know nothing about it? Speak in your native language if it's easier and I'll get someone to translate for me.
Also I'm shit at pot nowadays and still think it's good.
Can you explain in depth the reasons for your hatred of Pot PvP?
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cringiecake wrote

DaddyKeerqq wrote...


So you're saying you are bad at Pot and know nothing about it? Speak in your native language if it's easier and I'll get someone to translate for me.
Also I'm shit at pot nowadays and still think it's good.
Can you explain in depth the reasons for your hatred of Pot PvP?



Ne nisam, nego ne volim kako je sjeban kb, hit detection itd. I kao sto sam rekao "pot nikada nije valjao na badlionu", to mislim zato sto bukvalno nema niko kb u potu, I da postujem tvoje misljenje i nema razloga da se svadamo. To je samo moje misljenje o badlion potpvp-u. pce
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Just to clear things up for that guy who says potion was never good on here. Before UHC took over this server it was mainly potion game modes. If you actually played in the older seasons you'd know NoDebuff, Vanilla, Debuff and GApple were massively played and were extremely enjoyable, nowadays the kits are dead and that's because badlion haven't kept up with all the new practice servers imo.

Also in case, anyone asks i've been playing badlion since season6/7 on my old account. Season12 is when I really sweated, I think I had played 1k+ games by the first week of the season opening lmao. I also had a good few alts that had 2.1k elo in both NoDebuff and GApple when the kits were fun.
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Radioactivebeans wrote

lol cupo is that you

sup beans
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DaddyKeerqq wrote

Potion on badlion was never good.








yes never good haha XD
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