Last edited on 08 April 2018 - 05:35 PM by jarecl
Radioactivebeans wrote
Andreii wrote...
It is deniable
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 05:36 PM
+1Last edited on 08 April 2018 - 05:47 PM by jarecl
AtReaLity wrote
judging by how much higher the elos were in every kit in season 12 compared to season 11, arena (not badlion as a whole, it was at its peak in may 2016) started to decline in season 12 because if there were less matches played and lower elos, that means that people were less invested in the game because it was becoming stale having the same exact shit except for adding ironbuild, but that's just a theory
don't call me a fanboy for this but @Poisons says that danteh quitting was a big factor in arena dying as he was by far the most relevant youtuber in the arena community as he had build his entire fanbase off of uhc and arena unlike other youtubers, and when he quit the hype of danteh getting the highest build/global elo died down and that's probably also another reason that the server lost players
honestly badlion didn't have to die but they fucked up hard and even if they didn't, it was bound to slow down/die eventually because after they bought kohi they had no competition which meant that badlion had no reason to do better because they had the monopoly over 1.7 pvp
here's a video by hivlik talking about the kohi-badlion merge and how it affected badlion for the worse
Last edited on 08 April 2018 - 06:09 PM by Haris
jarecl wrote
AtReaLity wrote...
judging by how much higher the elos were in every kit in season 12 compared to season 11, arena (not badlion as a whole, it was at its peak in may 2016) started to decline in season 12 because if there were less matches played and lower elos, that means that people were less invested in the game because it was becoming stale having the same exact shit except for adding ironbuild, but that's just a theory
don't call me a fanboy for this but @Poisons says that danteh quitting was a big factor in arena dying as he was by far the most relevant youtuber in the arena community as he had build his entire fanbase off of uhc and arena unlike other youtubers, and when he quit the hype of danteh getting the highest build/global elo died down and that's probably also another reason that the server lost players
honestly badlion didn't have to die but they fucked up hard and even if they didn't, it was bound to slow down/die eventually because after they bought kohi they had no competition which meant that badlion had no reason to do better because they had the monopoly over 1.7 pvp
here's a video by hivlik talking about the kohi-badlion merge and how it affected badlion for the worse
cringe
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 08:05 PM
Poisons wrote
stop thinking it was better than it is now just because danteh got 2800 in s12
massive -1
This is the truth. Everyone thinks s12 remake could bring back players. If we did a s12 remake peaple would just play for 3-5. And do this.
1. Realize that s12 was BULLSHIT.
2. Say "it doesnt feel like s12"
Then they would quit. BadLion is really good right now. There is just not enogh hype for the things they release. S16 is IMO perfect. The only thing that is bad is 3 global kits. Im making a thread in the future bout how we could change the global system to better.
About @AtReaLity 's thread now….simply….HUGE -1
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 08:11 PM
Bluiishh wrote
Poisons wrote...
This is the truth. Everyone thinks s12 remake could bring back players. If we did a s12 remake peaple would just play for 3-5. And do this.
1. Realize that s12 was BULLSHIT.
2. Say "it doesnt feel like s12"
Then they would quit. BadLion is really good right now. There is just not enogh hype for the things they release. S16 is IMO perfect. The only thing that is bad is 3 global kits. Im making a thread in the future bout how we could change the global system to better.
About @AtReaLity 's thread now….simply….HUGE -1
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 08:13 PM
Haris wrote
jarecl wrote...
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 08:44 PM
jarecl wrote
Radioactivebeans wrote...
Exactly.
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 08:48 PM
Poisons wrote
Bluiishh wrote...
The problem with S15 voting waa that everybody could vote and all the terrible pvp'ers voted for the lowest kb because they didn't go flying there as usually. I believe that the current Player Council has to do some testing with many different kb's in order to find out what is actually good and what isn't.
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 08:51 PM
Actually doing that would certainly lead more players to come back on Badlion, but it would mean that all Bl have been doing since the season 12 was pointless… Just imagine working hard on a server for years for finally coming back to an older version, wasting almost 2 years of work and money…You're basically saying them "ok what you've been doing the last 2 years was bad, stop trying to improve the server and bring back old badlion"
Now season 12 is still my favorite season so far so i would be really happy if they were bringing back some season 12 features like maps or hubs
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 08:53 PM
Baelish wrote
Poisons wrote...
The problem with S15 voting waa that everybody could vote and all the terrible pvp'ers voted for the lowest kb because they didn't go flying there as usually. I believe that the current Player Council has to do some testing with many different kb's in order to find out what is actually good and what isn't.
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 08:56 PM
Poisons wrote
Baelish wrote...
It's obvious that there are many people that aren't on Player Council have aquired a decent amount of kowledge upon Knockback while some Player Council haven't but there are fewer bad players in there and consequently less people would vote for shit Kbs.
Last edited on 08 April 2018 - 09:08 PM by Fypsilon
Tuexiazz wrote
You're basically saying them "ok what you've been doing the last 2 years was bad, stop trying to improve the server and bring back old badlion"
Now season 12 is still my favorite season so far so i would be really happy if they were bringing back some season 12 features like maps or hubs
The reason why people actually prefered S12 is that people actually took some Knockback which eventually stopped happening the last seasons.
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 09:02 PM
Baelish wrote
Poisons wrote...
It's obvious that there are many people that aren't on Player Council have aquired a decent amount of kowledge upon Knockback while some Player Council haven't but there are fewer bad players in there and consequently less people would vote for shit Kbs.
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 09:27 PM
+1Posted on 08 April 2018 - 09:52 PM
jarecl wrote
Radioactivebeans wrote...
Exactly. In past seasons people actually could get combos, when now all the fights are basically a continuous trade of hits. No one asked for a better host, yet they still changed it to some shitty one. MMR wasn't that bad for certain gamemodes, but certainly was for Arena.
Last edited on 08 April 2018 - 10:55 PM by jarecl
Hakodate wrote
jarecl wrote...
Exactly. In past seasons people actually could get combos, when now all the fights are basically a continuous trade of hits. No one asked for a better host, yet they still changed it to some shitty one. MMR wasn't that bad for certain gamemodes, but certainly was for Arena.
Last edited on 08 April 2018 - 11:34 PM by SolrRaze
Why not implement a seperate arena lobby that is the same as s12 for a week and let the players decide which better, if they choose the new arenapvp then they can't complain about bringing it back to the way it was in s12 and if they like s12 better then it will be changed to s12 for the next season? There is no point in not trying it.Gonna tag the most active people in the discussion cause I want to see what they think @Louiie @NicoPr0 @jarecl @Robiswell @Poisons
Posted on 08 April 2018 - 11:55 PM
jarecl wrote
Hakodate wrote...
I'm talking about the new EU host which is absolute trash, it only increased people's ping. NA host at least had a reason to be moved and seems like no one is complaining about it.
Posted on 09 April 2018 - 12:52 AM
Glores wrote
Gonna tag the most active people in the discussion cause I want to see what they think @Louiie @NicoPr0 @jarecl @Robiswell @Poisons
Ironically I suggested this in PC chat earlier and I think it’s worth a shot to see what people think. I personally don’t think it would succeed that much but you don’t know.