Posted on 14 January 2015 - 11:03 AM
Why can't ban hackers mid match? I mean it's annoying to lose elo to a hacker in a match, today i fought a hacker and told asianapple to ban him. She said, "I am sorry but i can't ban mid match". Why is this a rule?Posted on 14 January 2015 - 12:21 PM
Cause if incorrect ban then unjust elo lossAnd that's bad
Posted on 14 January 2015 - 01:17 PM
Resorcered_ wrote
How would one justify obvious?
Posted on 14 January 2015 - 01:31 PM
BurntCactus wrote
Resorcered_ wrote...
How would one justify obvious?
Most mods have a since of obvious. I once got the "I cannot ban in ranked matches" speech when the guy I was fighting was literally flying and speed hacking. I think mods should be able to ban in a ranked match when the guy is doing something obvious like flying, speed hacking, using anti kb, or a really obvious aimbot, the sketchy stuff should wait until after the match, however.
@BurntCactus
Posted on 14 January 2015 - 01:37 PM
BetterSprint wrote
BurntCactus wrote...
Most mods have a since of obvious. I once got the "I cannot ban in ranked matches" speech when the guy I was fighting was literally flying and speed hacking. I think mods should be able to ban in a ranked match when the guy is doing something obvious like flying, speed hacking, using anti kb, or a really obvious aimbot, the sketchy stuff should wait until after the match, however.
@BurntCactus
When you ban someone for hacking, you should be certain they are hacking. Would you consider that obvious? When you're watching a friend fighting someone, and your friend is pressuring you to ban him, does your thought pattern change? My point is that players/friends can put pressure on mods to blur their judgement which can result in players losing elo, a giant bitch fest on the forums, and mods potentially being demoted.
Posted on 14 January 2015 - 03:18 PM
BurntCactus wrote
BetterSprint wrote...
When you ban someone for hacking, you should be certain they are hacking. Would you consider that obvious? When you're watching a friend fighting someone, and your friend is pressuring you to ban him, does your thought pattern change? My point is that players/friends can put pressure on mods to blur their judgement which can result in players losing elo, a giant bitch fest on the forums, and mods potentially being demoted.
https://www.badlion.net/match/kitpvp/1850187
Firstly, that link is me losing to a obvious hacker, asianapple was on and specifically told me that she was sorry but she couldn't ban him mid match. She even warned him saying, "Calstar123 turn the client off -.- you're setting GCheat off like crazy."
Secondly, I am not bitching about elo I know more people have gone through this situation, it's just funny how you can't ban mid game when it's fucking right there so obvious. This hacker even told asianapple that if she banned him he would hit her off. And remember THIS WAS ALL DURING THE MATCH, but what happens? She still says, "sorry I can't ban him mid game, not even Senior Mods can ban mid game".
That's just my point of view, but whatever said and done, it all still falls down to staff to decide.
Posted on 15 January 2015 - 12:27 AM
Mods can ban in ranked matches but if they make a mistake they lose their jobs.Not something most want to risk.
Posted on 15 January 2015 - 04:31 AM
MasterGberry wrote
Not something most want to risk.
Deal!
Posted on 16 January 2015 - 02:56 PM
MasterGberry wrote
Not something most want to risk.
Why would they make a mistake if the hacker is setting the GCheat off? Gcheat is 100% reliable, so if someone is setting Gcheat off he is hacking for sure and there wont be any risks for the mods to take.
Posted on 16 January 2015 - 03:21 PM
When GCheat is 100% sure the player is hacking, it bans by itself.Posted on 16 January 2015 - 03:39 PM
BioDarKatron wrote
MasterGberry wrote...
Why would they make a mistake if the hacker is setting the GCheat off? Gcheat is 100% reliable, so if someone is setting Gcheat off he is hacking for sure and there wont be any risks for the mods to take.
Gcheat still has SOME false positives. It's never going to be perfect/have all true positives and that's a fact.
-Lab
Posted on 16 January 2015 - 04:32 PM
MasterGberry wrote
Not something most want to risk.
Posted on 16 January 2015 - 05:04 PM
labmity wrote
BioDarKatron wrote...
Gcheat still has SOME false positives. It's never going to be perfect/have all true positives and that's a fact.
-Lab
So, when someone gets banned for autoclick [Gcheat] There is a small chance that he didnt actually used autoclick and got banned unfairly?
Posted on 16 January 2015 - 06:37 PM
BioDarKatron wrote
The slightest chance.
Everything will always have a flaw in it.
Posted on 16 January 2015 - 07:09 PM
JacobArnold wrote
MasterGberry wrote...
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Posted on 16 January 2015 - 07:17 PM
All of the matches I've played against hackers I just wait them out until they get banned by GCheat lmao